SUorangefootball Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 The Value difference from pick 25 to pick 46 is about 330-380 points which equates to a mid 2nd round pick. The Jets would end up with a completely solidified offensive line by adding a pro bowl caliber G to the mix and they would have 3 2nd round picks to build depth with. Pittsburgh would add two first round picks with a young coach and free up salary in the process (not to mention a growing problem in the locker room). I think the trade makes sense if its available, what say you jet fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Absolutely not. I've had my fill of trading down to pick up aging players enough already this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 NFW !!! Waaaaay too much to pay for an aging o lineman. Draft Blalock at #25 and get the line set for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Hasty Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 The Value difference from pick 25 to pick 46 is about 330-380 points which equates to a mid 2nd round pick. The Jets would end up with a completely solidified offensive line by adding a pro bowl caliber G to the mix and they would have 3 2nd round picks to build depth with. Pittsburgh would add two first round picks with a young coach and free up salary in the process (not to mention a growing problem in the locker room). I think the trade makes sense if its available, what say you jet fans? If they would throw in a fourth rounder I would do that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 If they would throw in a fourth rounder I would do that deal. If he were a little younger I would say yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 If he were a little younger I would say yes. if he were a little younger the steelers would keep him i was talking to a steelers fan the other day, we brought up all the names that left Pitt in FA, and all of these guys were 'done' when they left, most recently Joey Porter and KVO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick34125 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 definitely not a good deal. blalock makes more sense. or grubbs. build through the draft especially on the lines with youth. the jets will need a few years to make that eventual push into the big game and replacing lineman will only be a distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 if he were a little younger the steelers would keep him i was talking to a steelers fan the other day, we brought up all the names that left Pitt in FA, and all of these guys were 'done' when they left, most recently Joey Porter and KVO. It is yet to be determined whether letting Porter go was the right move. I might consider trading for Faneca if he was a year or two younger as well. But that is a bit too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Are you freakin' kidding me? No chance in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 how old is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 how old is he? 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 31 hmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 It is yet to be determined whether letting Porter go was the right move. yeah no doubt, the point of the conversation was we mentioned about 10 'big name' FA who left Pittsburgh and all of em were done in retrospect when they left. Joey Porter isn't going to be the exception to that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 yeah no doubt, the point of the conversation was we mentioned about 10 'big name' FA who left Pittsburgh and all of em were done in retrospect when they left. Joey Porter isn't going to be the exception to that rule. Yeah this will be interesting to watch. This new Pitt coach reminds me of Herm a lot. I'm wondering if he is not making the same mistakes Herm did when he first got here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 by the way Dockery just got Hutchinson money, so Faneca wants left tackle money. You don't trade your first round pick for a guy who wants 15 mil up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 by the way Dockery just got Hutchinson money, so Faneca wants left tackle money. You don't trade your first round pick for a guy who wants 15 mil up front. I agree 100%. Might as well stay put and draft a guard it would be cheaper and smarter. I say pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 The age and the rediculous contract he wants scare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 by the way Dockery just got Hutchinson money, so Faneca wants left tackle money. You don't trade your first round pick for a guy who wants 15 mil up front. This is why I don't like it. Think of it as a franchise tag on a 31yo player that requires a mid 2nd-rounder. He's still good. He'll still be good next year & probably at least decent the year after that. But a contract like that means he's ours for longer. Plus who knows what type of roster bonus would be tied in like after year two, making him uncuttable for at least 4 years. If he's productive for that long, then it's a good move. If not, then not. I'd keep our 1st-rounder that we can sign for 5 years for dirt cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Can someone name me one veteran, just one, that PIT released or tried to trade over the last 10 years that actually had a successful career elsewhere? I'll be listening very carefully over the sound of crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Hell No! Although I might consider giving up a first for Max Starks who is a RFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARodJetsFan Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 The Value difference from pick 25 to pick 46 is about 330-380 points which equates to a mid 2nd round pick. The Jets would end up with a completely solidified offensive line by adding a pro bowl caliber G to the mix and they would have 3 2nd round picks to build depth with. Pittsburgh would add two first round picks with a young coach and free up salary in the process (not to mention a growing problem in the locker room). I think the trade makes sense if its available, what say you jet fans? I'd say yes, absolutely, if Faneca was about 5 yrs younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 The only way you would make a move for a verteran linemen would be if you have one glaring whole on your line, and the rest of your team is good enough to make it to the big game. This team has so many wholes, there is no way they are ready to make a push through free agency to better themselves enough to beat a NE, SD, or Indy. This team will build in the draft for the next three years, if they get much better, then they could make a move for an older linemen as a stop gap. Until then, say hello to a Grubbs/Blalock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Can someone name me one veteran, just one, that PIT released or tried to trade over the last 10 years that actually had a successful career elsewhere? I'll be listening very carefully over the sound of crickets. agreed trading first for Faneca would be a Redskins-esque move. overpaying for a done vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Can someone name me one veteran, just one, that PIT released or tried to trade over the last 10 years that actually had a successful career elsewhere? I'll be listening very carefully over the sound of crickets. Not that I'd make this trade, but Rod Woodson was pretty successful after leaving Pittsburgh. Faneca for our fifth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I rather draft Blalock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 No More Old Dudes Please. Think young and draft Young please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 No More Old Dudes Please. Think young and draft Young please I like what your saying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 i don't think i would make the trade, but it wouldn't be based on age. offensive lineman seem to last a few years longer than other positions and i wouldn't doubt that he still has 3 very good years left in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 No More Old Dudes Please. Think young and draft Young please I would change that to "No more trading draft picks for old guys." Old guys in free agency can be good stopgaps. Thats why the Jets should've signed Edwin Mulitalo when they had the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Can someone name me one veteran, just one, that PIT released or tried to trade over the last 10 years that actually had a successful career elsewhere? I'll be listening very carefully over the sound of crickets. Kevin Greene and Rod Woodson. That's about it, and both were long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Kevin Greene and Rod Woodson. That's about it, and both were long ago. Kevin greene was probably insane. i was scared of that guy and i've never been in the same state as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Kevin greene was probably insane. i was scared of that guy and i've never been in the same state as him. I was always more afraid of Greg Lloyd. That mother****er was psychotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I was always more afraid of Greg Lloyd. That mother****er was psychotic. He was in the news recently for threatening his son...who is in the NFL draft, aparently a pretty good player, someone else will probably remember the details. ya know...like his name and all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 if he were a little younger the steelers would keep him i was talking to a steelers fan the other day, we brought up all the names that left Pitt in FA, and all of these guys were 'done' when they left, most recently Joey Porter and KVO. The Steelers usually are solid at determining a vet's value. Thats why it wouldn't upset me too much if they were to trade Faneca. I'd rather have them trade him than let him walk next year with no value in return. I'd take this deal in a heartbeat, therefore it definately won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 ben grubbs is a better player than faneca and blalock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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