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Raise your hand if you think Woody is a good owner


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#1 Maxman

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:28 AM

My thoughts are he is a bad owner. He has shown time and time again that he will screw the fans over financially. Parcells and Belichick seemed to want to have nothing to do with him and Belly couldn't wait to leave the organization.

But does anyone think he is a good owner? Please let us know why.
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#2 unbanmadmike1

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

Doubt there will be many hands raised around these parts.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:38 AM

I thought he was going to better than he has been. Once he bought the team I figured greener pastures were on their way. Now, it seems he is more of a business man than football man. He'd rather make money than win games (funny,thought how the latter makes the former happen.)

He should sell the team to Mark Cuban. :)
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

I thought he was going to better than he has been. Once he bought the team I figured greener pastures were on their way. Now, it seems he is more of a business man than football man. He'd rather make money than win games (funny,thought how the latter makes the former happen.)

He should sell the team to Mark Cuban. :)

How is he a business man? He was born a billionaire never made a dollar on his own in his life.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

How is he a business man? He was born a billionaire never made a dollar on his own in his life.


Is that true? I don't know too much about his background.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:00 AM

He's better than the Dolans, which I guess is kinda like saying Sanchez is better than Tebow.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:01 AM

i don't think he's Dolan level bad. He's ok. He trusts "football guys" to make decisions and if those decisions don't pan out, he fires the guys. I'd rather see that kind of ownership than the Jerry Jones type of constant meddling.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:07 AM

Is that true? I don't know too much about his background.


He was no doubt born into some serious money (the most obvious reason being J&J), but I think that description is just a tad excessive. I can totally get not liking the guy as an owner, but he's still a businessman (has his own private investment company) and a career philanthropist (been doing so for 30+ years), so someone trying to act like the guy has never done anything in his entire life makes them look like a horses ass. Unfortunately, the guy just doesn't seem to be cut out for football.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:08 AM

Is he the reason JN does not have press pass?
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:08 AM

Dude sucks
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:14 AM

I think it depends on what you define as a "good owner"..

As far as him being an Al Davis, no.. He is missing something when it comes to either acquiring the proper *football* people, or
knowing enough to stay uninvolved, or more involved.. at the right time. Owners are probably a lot like race horses.. if you think about it, they are all relatively fast, but some are friggin fast all the time..and are seriously good.

If anything, Woody has a serious lag issue or motivational issue..he probably is wondering if he should
get rid of people ..but isn't sure.

Edited by Jetsouth, 15 November 2012 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:20 AM

Woody is not the problem.

If he keeps Sanchez and T-Rex past this year, then we can talk......
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:35 AM

He was no doubt born into some serious money (the most obvious reason being J&J), but I think that description is just a tad excessive. I can totally get not liking the guy as an owner, but he's still a businessman (has his own private investment company) and a career philanthropist (been doing so for 30+ years), so someone trying to act like the guy has never done anything in his entire life makes them look like a horses ass. Unfortunately, the guy just doesn't seem to be cut out for football.

A "career philanthropist" is someone who spends other people's money they didn't earn.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:38 AM

A "career philanthropist" is someone who spends other people's money they didn't earn.


Can you believe that son of a bitch? Using his money to help other people? What the hell is his problem?!?!
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:41 AM

Can you believe that son of a bitch? Using his money to help other people? What the hell is his problem?!?!

I have no idea if he's helped people or not. I do know that he didn't earn any of that money so calling him someone who knows how to run a business just isn't accurate. And he's proving how clueless he is running the Jets.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

Him saying getting an empty suit like Romney to become President is more important than the team is pretty disturbing, so......
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

I have no idea if he's helped people or not. I do know that he didn't earn any of that money so calling him someone who knows how to run a business just isn't accurate. And he's proving how clueless he is running the Jets.


I never disagreed with you about the Jets, but your comments are completely baseless and making you look foolish. He was undoubtedly born into plenty of money, and that certainly provided him with plenty of benefits that helped him to develop the career that he has, but that still doesn't change what he's done throughout his life. I noticed you were sure to completely ignore the point regarding his own private investment company or even the simple fact that he's certainly earned a sh*tload of money in his time as Jets' owner (regardless of whether or not you agree with how he's done it). By your nonsensical logic, unless your parents were homeless without a penny to their name, any money you have had throughout your entire life was completely unearned.

Here's an idea, if you don't like him as the Jets' owner, just stick with that. At least you've got plenty of reason to justify that position, instead of feeling the need to go out of your way to talk completely out of your ass, because apparently in your mind, he has to be seen by all as the devil incarnate for everything he has done in his entire life because you don't like how he's run football team.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:59 AM

I think Woody is a horrible owner. He is way too involved in player decisions. I have a feeling he wanted Tebow just to put asses in the seats and it has not worked. Of course, there is a fine line between running a team as a money maker and as a successful franchise but, when your team is successful, your business flourishes.

Watching Woody publicly come out for Romney made me miss Leon Hess and his weeping in locker rooms. Hess genuinely loved the Jets. Woody is just interested in making money.

This is off topic but I feel Tannenbaum is part of the problem. Also, Sparano. We need new talent, a new offensive coordinator, AND a pass rusher.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:08 PM

Gents

I never post

I love the site and think it is the go to site for a Jet fan

but I had to rise to this bait

the only thing Woody has done is inherit big dough

he is a member of the lucky sperm club and that does not guarantee intelligence

The Mara's and Rooney's are the gold standard

Woody is a star struck guy with no analytical skills - he is easily dazzled - and does not have an analytical mind or a football mind

we are screwed until Woody sells the team
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:12 PM

Really? No one's gonna defend this guy? It's clear that he doesn't have enough football minds around him. I.E. weapons.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:23 PM

i don't think it's realistic to expect the Jets to go from 8-8 to win the Super Bowl. And then when that doesn't happen, claim that firing everyone will make it better. Super Bowl victories are built over the course of years. Sanchez showed up at the tail end of a window. that window closed. Another one will open. But they don't open every year. We talk about the quality of ownership, the implication is that if the Jets had won a Super Bowl, Woody would be an amazing owner. I just don't think this is a realistic goal for fans to believe every year that the Jets could win the Super Bowl.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:25 PM

I just don't think this is a realistic goal for fans to believe every year that the Jets could win the Super Bowl.


Then what's the point of being a f***ing fan, you pathetic sonuvabitch?
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

Then what's the point of being a f***ing fan, you pathetic sonuvabitch?


hey you can believe whatever you want. I can believe that buying a powerball ticket at the gas station will change my life. But that doesn't make it realistic. the question is Woody a good owner, if the only criteria is SB victories then there are like 10 good owners total.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:44 PM

i don't think it's realistic to expect the Jets to go from 8-8 to win the Super Bowl. And then when that doesn't happen, claim that firing everyone will make it better. Super Bowl victories are built over the course of years. Sanchez showed up at the tail end of a window. that window closed. Another one will open. But they don't open every year. We talk about the quality of ownership, the implication is that if the Jets had won a Super Bowl, Woody would be an amazing owner. I just don't think this is a realistic goal for fans to believe every year that the Jets could win the Super Bowl.


Sweet merciful crap.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:47 PM

as long as woody writes the checks to the players hes a good owner
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