Obrien2Toon Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 just because we dont have an even adequate backup for mangold - which exaggerates mangold's ability btw by over-emphasizing his value to the overall function of the OL...the offense...and totality of the team's performance.... this doesn't mean that mangold is easily the second best player on the team. Brick is probably a little bit better than Mangold. i mean we totally forget how good Mawae was when he was here in his prime....mangold can't even pull remotely as well as Mawae. at the current clip in time 1. revis 2. brick 3. mangold 4. pace 5. maybin 6. sanchez 7. holmes (too many key drops) 8. keller 9. mcknight 10. dixon (not getting credit around here) 11. pouha 12. harris (underperforming all due respect) 13. wilson 14. scott (missing tackles...) 15. cromartie (lacking discipline) 16. greene 17. wilkerson 18. westerman 19. smith 20. leonard 21. the rest of the OL 22. Plaxico 23. connor I said this in the preseason. He looks like a different player. Our best Dlineman right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Eric Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 You people are serious about McKnight? I thought that was a joke. He is all potential. Greene and Keller are way better at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 i figure if Keller was on a real offense he would be a pro bowler easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 1. Revis 2. Mangold 3. D'brick 4. Harris 5. Pace 6. Holmes 7. Thomas 8. Moore 9. Pouha 10. Keller 11. Scott 12. DeVito 13. Cromartie 14. McKnight 15. Greene 16. LT 17. Wilkerson 18. Wilson 19. Kerley 20. Leonhard 21. Pitoitua 22. Burress 23. Conner 24. Slauson 25. Westerman 26. Pool 27. Dixon 28. Ellis 29. Maybin 30. Sanchez 31. Hunter 32. Smith etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Not sure why Brick gets much respect at all You can not run behind him AT ALL\\Great against pass rush, but horrible in the running game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Mangold Not that he's next in line, but Calvin Pace doesn't get any love for being a really good player. He's been all over the field this year hitting people hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damaged89 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Not sure why Brick gets much respect at all You can not run behind him AT ALL\\Great against pass rush, but horrible in the running game I feel like the best we've run the ball all year has been behind Brick. He gets the big bucks to pass block anyway, and he's either the best in the league at that or so close that it doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 just because we dont have an even adequate backup for mangold - which exaggerates mangold's ability btw by over-emphasizing his value to the overall function of the OL...the offense...and totality of the team's performance.... this doesn't mean that mangold is easily the second best player on the team. Brick is probably a little bit better than Mangold. i mean we totally forget how good Mawae was when he was here in his prime....mangold can't even pull remotely as well as Mawae. at the current clip in time 1. revis 2. brick 3. mangold 4. pace 5. maybin 6. sanchez 7. holmes (too many key drops) 8. keller 9. mcknight 10. dixon (not getting credit around here) 11. pouha 12. harris (underperforming all due respect) 13. wilson 14. scott (missing tackles...) 15. cromartie (lacking discipline) 16. greene 17. wilkerson 18. westerman 19. smith 20. leonard 21. the rest of the OL 22. Plaxico 23. connor huh, huh, and huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I keep losing track. Is Tannenbaum still a super-genius or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Revis Mangold DBrick Holmes Harris/Pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 1. Revis 2. Mangold 3. Harris 4. Ferguson 5. Scott 6. Pouha 7. DeVito 8. Holmes (Not a #1 IMO) 9. Moore (When healthy) 10. Leonhard (Under-appreciated) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm going to go: Mangold D'Brick Pace Scott Harris Pouha/DeVito Leonhard Cromartie Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Did I say Joe McKnight already? Ok then! Joe McKnight is teh Truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 1. Revis 2. Mangold 3. D'brick 4. Harris 5. Pace 6. Holmes 7. Thomas 8. Moore 9. Pouha 10. Keller 11. Scott 12. DeVito 13. Cromartie 14. McKnight 15. Greene 16. LT 17. Wilkerson 18. Wilson 19. Kerley 20. Leonhard 21. Pitoitua 22. Burress 23. Conner 24. Slauson 25. Westerman 26. Pool 27. Dixon 28. Ellis 29. Maybin 30. Sanchez 31. Hunter 32. Smith etc etc... Joe McKnight is way too low. I call shenanigans on your list sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Revis mangold holmes D'brick scott keller a second rounder traded for a player to be named later that will be 17th on this list eventually. to answer you question Tom, no. Tanny will get a you a nice return on your taxes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm drunk. You're all stupid. Bart Scott kicks cock in and the rest of you suck ballsZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I keep losing track. Is Tannenbaum still a super-genius or not? Not yet. But when Satele becomes a beast... or opens up his pizza shop.. he will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I'm surprised and disappointed to see so many posters rate Harris ahead of Scott. Scott routinely blows up running plays, which isn't reflected in the stats. Further, he is the Jets' most ferocious defensive player. He, more than anyone left on this team (besides Revis), is the life blood of what has been until recently a killer defense - virtually impenetrable against the inside run. The guy throws his body at fullbacks and guards with reckless abandon. He deserves much more respect here. If Scott doesn't play the way he does - blasting into the RB's preferred running lane - then Harris doesn't make nearly as many plays as he does. Bart Scott, though he seems to have missed more tackles this year, is still our second best defensive player. The guy is a warrior. I'd rate Pace ahead of Harris too. But to me that's a closer call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Rutgers convinced me. Revised list 1. Revis 2. Mangold 3. D'Brick 4. Harris 5. Holmes 6. McKnight 7. Scott 8. Pace 9. Moore 10. Cro I don't know how anyone who watched the Jets play without Mangold can include Moore on a top ten list. Without Mangold, Moore was exposed as a mediocre RG. He played well when he was comfortably encsonced between Mangold and Woody. Which is fine but doesn't commend him for a top ten list of Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I feel like the best we've run the ball all year has been behind Brick. He gets the big bucks to pass block anyway, and he's either the best in the league at that or so close that it doesn't really matter. I agree. When Woody was here the Jets were definitely a right handed team. This year their most effective running side has been to the left. When Brick first came to the Jets his problem was keeping weight on, and run blocking. He seems to have stabilized his weight with age, and his run game has improved dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Mangold, then Brick. Nobody else close to those 2. The rest of these bums got no heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I agree. When Woody was here the Jets were definitely a right handed team. This year their most effective running side has been to the left. When Brick first came to the Jets his problem was keeping weight on, and run blocking. He seems to have stabilized his weight with age, and his run game has improved dramatically. Very well said. I'll admit that I was one of Brick's biggest detractors at the beginning. I wanted no part of an underweight LT who couldn't run block to save his life. That said, that was over 5 years ago, and a whole lot has changed since then. Those issues are long since gone, and the guy is a hell of a player from top to bottom. Easily one of the best in the league at what he does, and one of the Jets' best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Is it a problem if your quarterback is your 13th best player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Is it a problem if your quarterback is your 13th best player? In this case, it just obviously tells you how ridiculously amazingly awesome your top 12 are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjetsjetss Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Is it a problem if your quarterback is your 13th best player? or how bad our offense has been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not sure why Brick gets much respect at all You can not run behind him AT ALL\\Great against pass rush, but horrible in the running game Because it's a passing league. Oh, and Will, IMO, Moore is still recovering from hip surgery. That was a major reason for his troubles when Mangold was out. Further, he has utter trash to his right in Wayne Hunter. If I did a full list I'd put Baxter ahead of Hunter. Yeah, Hunter did a nice job against Wake, but Wake has been mailing it in all season. That said, I hope Hunter gets back to last yr's form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Because it's a passing league. Oh, and Will, IMO, Moore is still recovering from hip surgery. That was a major reason for his troubles when Mangold was out. Further, he has utter trash to his right in Wayne Hunter. If I did a full list I'd put Baxter ahead of Hunter. Yeah, Hunter did a nice job against Wake, but Wake has been mailing it in all season. That said, I hope Hunter gets back to last yr's form. I do agree with this about Moore to an extent, but I also think part of it is just that he's a quite good, but not great, guard. He'll do his job and do it well, but he's not the kind of guy who's going to make up for having spazzes playing next to him either. Throughout his entire career he's shown that just as long as he's got even just solid players next to him, he'll be in great shape, but if not, he's not going to be able to do a whole ton to help them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it just is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I do agree with this about Moore to an extent, but I also think part of it is just that he's a quite good, but not great, guard. He'll do his job and do it well, but he's not the kind of guy who's going to make up for having spazzes playing next to him either. Throughout his entire career he's shown that just as long as he's got even just solid players next to him, he'll be in great shape, but if not, he's not going to be able to do a whole ton to help them. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but it just is what it is. Exactly. Moore is a solid starter. You'd upgrade him with a probowler. Less than that he is an asset to the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not sure why Brick gets much respect at all You can not run behind him AT ALL\\Great against pass rush, but horrible in the running game Not sure if srs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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