Kleckineau Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.lostlettermen.com/weekly-feature-nfl-drafts-50-biggest-busts-where-are-they-now/2 Should there be a waiting period of 5 yrs post retirement before entry is permitted into this "Hall Of Shame"? If so....... I say Gholston cracks the top 10 when he becomes eligible. Sanchez top 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.lostlette...-are-they-now/2 Should there be a waiting period of 5 yrs post retirement before entry is permitted into this "Hall Of Shame"? If so....... I say Gholston cracks the top 10 when he becomes eligible. Sanchez top 5? Sanchez is not even top 5 Jet busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.lostlette...-are-they-now/2 Should there be a waiting period of 5 yrs post retirement before entry is permitted into this "Hall Of Shame"? If so....... I say Gholston cracks the top 10 when he becomes eligible. Sanchez top 5? Seriously? Did you even look at the list? Sanchez aint' a good QB right now but he ain't close to being as bad as any of the QBs on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Sanchez has never had a sub-500 season and has gone deep into the playoffs 2 of 3 yrs. I'm not saying he's good, but we've got a long list of ahead of him on this team alone. Ron Faurot, anyone? Mike Haight? And, yeah, Gholston will be an all-time bust based on the fact that he could have earned a million bucks with one sack and couldn't even do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Sanchez has never had a sub-500 season and has gone deep into the playoffs 2 of 3 yrs. I'm not saying he's good, but we've got a long list of ahead of him on this team alone. Ron Faurot, anyone? Mike Haight? And, yeah, Gholston will be an all-time bust based on the fact that he could have earned a million bucks with one sack and couldn't even do that. Dewayne Robertson, Mike Faurot, Blair Thomas, Johnny Lam Jones. The list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Dewayne Robertson, Mike Faurot, Blair Thomas, Johnny Lam Jones. The list goes on. Roger Vick, Johnny Mitchell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 how is alex van dyke on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justincredible Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 http://www.lostlette...-are-they-now/2 Should there be a waiting period of 5 yrs post retirement before entry is permitted into this "Hall Of Shame"? If so....... I say Gholston cracks the top 10 when he becomes eligible. Sanchez top 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 how is alex van dyke on that list? Probably because he held the NCAA record for career receptions, as misguided a reason as that may be. Or, because after spending the #1 overall pick on a WR, the Jets decided they needed another one with the first pick in the 2nd Rd. Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I didn't get Tony Sacca???? Who had any idea that Tony Sacca would amount to anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Probably because he held the NCAA record for career receptions, as misguided a reason as that may be. Or, because after spending the #1 overall pick on a WR, the Jets decided they needed another one with the first pick in the 2nd Rd. Morons. The only reason I even remember that name is he fumbled or dropped a big pass in denver in 1998... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I didn't get Tony Sacca???? Who had any idea that Tony Sacca would amount to anything? that was another one that popped out a tme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Kyle Brady, Browning Nagle, Dave Cadigan, Dorian Boose, Derrick Strait, Justin Miller. When you look at some of the Drafts we've had back in the day. The drafts over the last ten years look fantastic in comparison. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=3430&type=team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Seriously? Did you even look at the list? Sanchez aint' a good QB right now but he ain't close to being as bad as any of the QBs on that list. So now you have gone from the "He is a proven playoff QB mantra, 4 wins blah blah blah" to "Sanchez aint' a good QB right now" As a failed #5 pick he will be right up there with and might surpass Blair Thomas in Jets draft misery. Granted, he isnt Ryan Leaf. He may be a decent backup somewhere eventually. He is the latest version of Rick Mirer except Mirer never had the luxury of his suckness being hidden by coming to a championship ready team with a top defense like Snachez had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So now you have gone from the "He is a proven playoff QB mantra, 4 wins blah blah blah" to "Sanchez aint' a good QB right now" As a failed #5 pick he will be right up there with and might surpass Blair Thomas in Jets draft misery. Granted, he isnt Ryan Leaf. He may be a decent backup somewhere eventually. He is the latest version of Rick Mirer except Mirer never had the luxury of his suckness being hidden by coming to a championship ready team with a top defense like Snachez had. waa waa he's not even as bad a bust as todd was spoiled jets fans, never thought I'd see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So now you have gone from the "He is a proven playoff QB mantra, 4 wins blah blah blah" to "Sanchez aint' a good QB right now" As a failed #5 pick he will be right up there with and might surpass Blair Thomas in Jets draft misery. Granted, he isnt Ryan Leaf. He may be a decent backup somewhere eventually. He is the latest version of Rick Mirer except Mirer never had the luxury of his suckness being hidden by coming to a championship ready team with a top defense like Snachez had. Actually, Rick Mirer came to a team that went to the AFC Championship the year before he came, was predicted to go to the SB the year that he was there, and he failed miserably when called upon. So, your point is incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 rogers and phillips have to be #2 and #1, they busted in life as well leaf still has cabbage aparently and a clean record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Probably because he held the NCAA record for career receptions, as misguided a reason as that may be. Or, because after spending the #1 overall pick on a WR, the Jets decided they needed another one with the first pick in the 2nd Rd. Morons. That's still not even why it was so bad. They'd just lucked into an UDFA rookie WR who got open at will and never dropped the ball AND shelled out bucks for Jeff Graham. So they had Graham and Chrebet, then drafted Keyshawn, THEN drafted Van Dyke. 20/20 hindsight and all, but it only makes it more painful in hindsight that after Van Dyke at #31 came Toomer, Muhammad, Engram, T.O., Horn, and Jeffers, Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Kyle Brady, Browning Nagle, Dave Cadigan, Dorian Boose, Derrick Strait, Justin Miller. When you look at some of the Drafts we've had back in the day. The drafts over the last ten years look fantastic in comparison. http://www.nfl.com/d...=3430&type=team Brady and Cadigan played in the league for awhile...even as starters. Sadly, they are not amongst the biggest busts. The Van Dyke picked killed me. You have the 1st pick in the 2nd round and go WR after taking Keyshawn. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 After a successful Professional Football career, Alex utilized his background and experience to open a Going Vertical athletic training facility in Sacramento, Ca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 rogers and phillips have to be #2 and #1, they busted in life as well leaf still has cabbage aparently and a clean record Leaf was arrested for stealing prescription drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Actually, Rick Mirer came to a team that went to the AFC Championship the year before he came, was predicted to go to the SB the year that he was there, and he failed miserably when called upon. So, your point is incorrect Are you serious? Really? If you are referring to when the Jets picked him up everone knew he was already a failure so whats your point?? I was comparing him to Sanchez during his 1st 3-4 years with Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Kyle Brady, Browning Nagle, Dave Cadigan, Dorian Boose, Derrick Strait, Justin Miller. When you look at some of the Drafts we've had back in the day. The drafts over the last ten years look fantastic in comparison. http://www.nfl.com/d...=3430&type=team Wow hadn't thought about this kid in a long time. I remember everybody saying he was a stud and would be a great cover corner. I think he went to Oklahoma in college. Dang he just never got on the field, what a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Wait a minute...why in the hell is Jamarcus Russell not in the top 5? He should actually be about number 2 on the list behind Ryan Leaf because of his 1st pick status and being the worst QB I have ever seen. Atleast Leaf had some talent. Jamarcus just had a cannon arm, a fat belly, and a craving for dat purple drank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So now you have gone from the "He is a proven playoff QB mantra, 4 wins blah blah blah" to "Sanchez aint' a good QB right now" As a failed #5 pick he will be right up there with and might surpass Blair Thomas in Jets draft misery. Granted, he isnt Ryan Leaf. He may be a decent backup somewhere eventually. He is the latest version of Rick Mirer except Mirer never had the luxury of his suckness being hidden by coming to a championship ready team with a top defense like Snachez had. First of all, I've never said Sanchez was a "proven" anything so that's you attempting to create a red herring argument. Look at the histories of the QBs on that list of all-time draft busts, to suggest Sanchez is a top 5 all-time draft bust is to say you lack any sense of perspective whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 First of all, I've never said Sanchez was a "proven" anything so that's you attempting to create a red herring argument. Look at the histories of the QBs on that list of all-time draft busts, to suggest Sanchez is a top 5 all-time draft bust is to say you lack any sense of perspective whatsoever. Oh yes you did and there are about a thousand posts you made to back it up. The polite description would be backpedaling. As far as Snachez being one of the all time worst picks he still has work to do but he is on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Are you serious? Really? If you are referring to when the Jets picked him up everone knew he was already a failure so whats your point?? I was comparing him to Sanchez during his 1st 3-4 years with Seattle You said Mirer NEVER had an opportunity with a top caliber club. he DID. You were wrong there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipxneo0 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 First of all, I've never said Sanchez was a "proven" anything so that's you attempting to create a red herring argument. Look at the histories of the QBs on that list of all-time draft busts, to suggest Sanchez is a top 5 all-time draft bust is to say you lack any sense of perspective whatsoever. couldn't agree more. most of the QB's on this list have WAY more interceptions to touchdowns with huge losing records. Sanchez on the other hand has a winning record and a much better td to int ratio! GP. Oh yes you did and there are about a thousand posts you made to back it up. The polite description would be backpedaling. As far as Snachez being one of the all time worst picks he still has work to do but he is on track. Your just shot!! not even close!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Actually, Rick Mirer came to a team that went to the AFC Championship the year before he came, was predicted to go to the SB the year that he was there, and he failed miserably when called upon. So, your point is incorrect Another one purported to be a "Joe Montana type" QB. Always a nice way of saying too small and no arm, but oh those "intangibles". This type of hype for no-talent QB's never seems to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 After a successful Professional Football career, Alex utilized his background and experience to open a Going Vertical athletic training facility in Sacramento, Ca. hmm. that's nice. information is nice, sometimes. sure he, uh, is doing good with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Oh yes you did and there are about a thousand posts you made to back it up. The polite description would be backpedaling. As far as Snachez being one of the all time worst picks he still has work to do but he is on track. Better backpedalling than being so wrong and refusing to admit it. Sanchez is not even a top 5 bust in his DECADE, let alone NFL history. Here are 5 picks worse than Sanchez in his decade alone: JaMarcus Russel #1 overall, Raiders Matt Leinart, #10 overall, Cardinals Reggie Bush, #2 overall, Saints Charles Rogers, #2 overall, Lions David Terrell, #8 overall, Bears I could go on. There's probably at least 30 guys that would go above Sanchez on that list for his decade alone....then there's another half century of NFL history to add to it even further. Top 5? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Better backpedalling than being so wrong and refusing to admit it. Sanchez is not even a top 5 bust in his DECADE, let alone NFL history. Here are 5 picks worse than Sanchez in his decade alone: JaMarcus Russel #1 overall, Raiders Matt Leinart, #10 overall, Cardinals Reggie Bush, #2 overall, Saints Charles Rogers, #2 overall, Lions David Terrell, #8 overall, Bears I could go on. There's probably at least 30 guys that would go above Sanchez on that list for his decade alone....then there's another half century of NFL history to add to it even further. Top 5? lol Mark Sanchez is no better than Rick Mirer.....get over it Marky Mark jock sniffers. Same clown in this thread has been up his azz for 2 years now backpedals. Sure he is better than Jamarcus Russell but big deal so was Akili Smith. You guys are in denial about this. You wait, youll see when he is backing up a real QB somewhere or out of the league what a huge waste / bust he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Mark Sanchez is no better than Rick Mirer.....get over it Marky Mark jock sniffers. Same clown in this thread has been up his azz for 2 years now backpedals. Sure he is better than Jamarcus Russell but big deal so was Akili Smith. You guys are in denial about this. You wait, youll see when he is backing up a real QB somewhere or out of the league what a huge waste / bust he was. You're the only clown in this thread my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Clown? Sorry but you really are funnier when you rant ad nauseum how bad the Pats defense is and how they will def go one and out in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Lol, you are a clown dude. Despite how bad he sucks, Sanchez still has a winning record as a QB, still tied the league record for the most road playoff wins, and still was a half game away from the SB twice. Even if he's just a borderline starter or backup, it doesn't matter how bad he sucks, comparing him to the QBs on that list is just stupid because he's already accomplished a lot more than any of them. Maybe if he was a #1 overall pick you would have a case, but not at #5 overall, when we practically stole the pick from Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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