Inside the Jets WAR ROOM!

[bitonti]

The Patriots have also been one of the single worst drafting teams for years now, so that's hardly helping to make your case.

people say that but I wonder

besides the Brady pick which was genius lightining strike level awesome

there was Mankins, Wilfork, Mayo, Gronk and Hernandez (how good was the Gronk pick?) . Meriweather made a pro bowl or 2. Gostowki and Mezko put the Jets specialists to shame. Note Solder is gonna be a starting left tackle.

it's not all bad I guess is my point. Could they have done better? sure but so could every other team in the draft.

[afosomf]

The Patriots have also been one of the single worst drafting teams for years now, so that's hardly helping to make your case.

I hate the pats and i think their draft strategy stinks, keep trading down and accumulate picks and hope some work out. I did read also they had most pro-bowlers drafted in last 10 yrs.

At least Bellie knows what a football player looks like, unlike Tanny who is still figuring out how to catch a football without fallin on his arse

[Ryno the Jet]

I hate the pats and i think their draft strategy stinks, keep trading down and accumulate picks and hope some work out. I did read also they had most pro-bowlers drafted in last 10 yrs.

At least Bellie knows what a football player looks like, unlike Tanny who is still figuring out how to catch a football without fallin on his arse

Tanny was not hired to catch a football.

[slats]

Tannehill will be the key here. If he goes top ten, then teams will start getting nervous about where Weeden et al will land.

Also, if there is a run on WRs, the Jets could find a partner that way.

Don't see any need for anyone to jump ahead of Cincy, SD, or Chicago to grab a QB, but WR makes sense. Thing is, if WR is the BAP there, the Jets should seriously consider taking him themselves.

too many cooks spoil the broth, it aint a party in there, should be Tanny Rex JC TB off Coord and Dec Coord that equals 6

those meetings should be finalized by wed imo

You're trying to hard, dude. There's stuff to complain about in regards to the Jets front office, but this isn't one of them.

My guess is that the first few rounds of the draft are pretty much written in stone, but when it comes down to those comp picks in the 6th and 7th round, you might have a couple shout-outs from the crowd. If you have the guy who personally worked out some obscure OT from Buttvuck University telling you to grab the guy with the 244th pick, it might be a good thing that you let him in.

[afosomf]

Tanny was not hired to catch a football.

Cant evaluate them either, which as a GM should be #1 attribute

[afosomf]

Don't see any need for anyone to jump ahead of Cincy, SD, or Chicago to grab a QB, but WR makes sense. Thing is, if WR is the BAP there, the Jets should seriously consider taking him themselves.

You're trying to hard, dude. There's stuff to complain about in regards to the Jets front office, but this isn't one of them.

My guess is that the first few rounds of the draft are pretty much written in stone, but when it comes down to those comp picks in the 6th and 7th round, you might have a couple shout-outs from the crowd. If you have the guy who personally worked out some obscure OT from Buttvuck University telling you to grab the guy with the 244th pick, it might be a good thing that you let him in.

for rds 5-7 there is like 3 min to make pick, u actually think jets have time to go around the table so why have them in the ze room

[Ryno the Jet]

Don't see any need for anyone to jump ahead of Cincy, SD, or Chicago to grab a QB, but WR makes sense. Thing is, if WR is the BAP there, the Jets should seriously consider taking him themselves.

Agreed, but Cleveland is sitting there at 22. If they pass on QB at 4, which they should, then they will be in the mix. Cincy would seem like a more logical trade partner for other teams, as they have 17 and 21, and it would screw their division rivals to allow another team to sneak in and grab a QB. Therein lies the chance that the Browns will trade with the Jets (swap 22 and 3rd or 4th for 16?) to get their guy.

As for WR, I hope the Jets go in a different direction, as this draft is loaded at that position.

[Ryno the Jet]

Cant evaluate them either, which as a GM should be #1 attribute

He pays others to evaluate players and makes informed decisions. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? Name the GMs that have had better drafts in their tenure. There are few.

[Bleedin Green]

Cant evaluate them either, which as a GM should be #1 attribute

Do you realize what a complete embarrassment you have made of yourself in this thread? If you think Tanny sucks at his job than so be it, you're certainly not alone, but the reasoning you've tried to use is the sorriest joke ever imaginable. You throw out comments with literally zero basis given for them whatsoever, and then use moronic examples like the number of people in a draft room and the catching of a football as your great cases to make your point. You really just need to stop already, because the more you talk, the smarter you make Tanny look when it comes to football by comparison.

[afosomf]

He pays others to evaluate players and makes informed decisions. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? Name the GMs that have had better drafts in their tenure. There are few.

Just wow, by your definition Captain JonE could be jets GM, he is a lawyer as well

[pointman]

I look forward to Tebow not constantly throwing the ball to the checkdown. Give me some AIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ryno the Jet]

Just wow, by your definition Captain JonE could be jets GM, he is a lawyer as well

What definition? I am simply basing my opinions on his accomplishments with the Jets. He has drafted well by most accounts and his teams have consistently been in the playoffs, including back-to-back appearances in two AFC Championship games. He's not the best in the league, but he has done well to say the least.

I was not aware that JonE had a law degree, but he is a fine judge of liquor. I am from Texas, where handshakes and hootch seal deals. JonE could be my GM any time.

[KSJets]

those meetings should be finalized by wed imo

Was it a problem when there were 13 people in the room when they traded up for Revis? For Harris? When they selected Mangold? I didn't think so.

Now go crawl back under your rock and don't come out until after the draft.

[afosomf]

Was it a problem when there were 13 people in the room when they traded up for Revis? For Harris? When they selected Mangold? I didn't think so.

Now go crawl back under your rock and don't come out until after the draft.

you forgot Gholston and Sanchez

[jbone]

The Patriots have also been one of the single worst drafting teams for years now, so that's hardly helping to make your case.

What case was I making? Thought I was pretty clear that I wasn't giving an opinion on it one way or the other. Just providing another example.

[HessStation]

Just wow, by your definition Captain JonE could be jets GM, he is a lawyer as well

Almost EVERY GM does the same thing. Some of them weigh in heavier than others is all. But every team relies HEAVILY on their scouting department which does not include the GM.

[Bleedin Green]

What case was I making? Thought I was pretty clear that I wasn't giving an opinion on it one way or the other. Just providing another example.

I hear you. To clarify, the "case" comment was really more directed at afosomf's attempt to use that example you gave as a means to prove why there was any basis whatsoever for him to use the number of people in the Jets' draft room as a means of evaluation of Tanny.

[jbone]

I hear you. To clarify, the "case" comment was really more directed at afosomf's attempt to use that example you gave as a means to prove why there was any basis whatsoever for him to use the number of people in the Jets' draft room as a means of evaluation of Tanny.

Got ya, bleedin. I guess everything isn't about me. Haha

[afosomf]

Almost EVERY GM does the same thing. Some of them weigh in heavier than others is all. But every team relies HEAVILY on their scouting department which does not include the GM.

and it helps when your GM can digest the scouting dept's appraisal. Jets will never win a SB with Tanny as its GM

[Bleedin Green]

Almost EVERY GM does the same thing. Some of them weigh in heavier than others is all. But every team relies HEAVILY on their scouting department which does not include the GM.

Yeah, but you're forgetting the crystal clear point that every other GM in the league obviously knows more about football than Tanny. This is of course based only on afosomf saying so and absolutely nothing more, but isn't that enough for you? It particularly carries a lot of weight when using that as a basis of evaluation for comparing Tanny to other teams who he admits have drafted worse than the Jets.

[Bleedin Green]

Got ya, bleedin. I guess everything isn't about me. Haha

Well I did quote you, so I got the confusion, which is why I wanted to clarify.

[Thor99]

Am i finally off the hook for silliest thread ever?

[Ryno the Jet]

you forgot Gholston and Sanchez

Everyone misses. Let's examine the Gholston pick (which by far has been Tanny's worst)

Glenn Dorsey (DT, 5) went just before the Jets pick, and Sedrick Ellis (DT, 7) went just after. Both have been solid players, but neither really fit the Jets scheme at the time. The Jets had also just acquired a guy by the name of Kris Jenkins, which meant that DT was a low priority.

Derrick Harvey (DE, 8), a bust by all accounts, came next. Keith Rivers (OLB, 9) was drafted by the Bengals, and then Jarod Mayo (ILB, 10) rounded out the top ten. Rivers is not a 3-4 OLB, so he was not an option. Obviously Mayo would have been a nice pick up, but the Jets already had starters at the ILB position and even the Pats were criticized for reaching.

If the Jets had selected any other player not mentioned here, it would have been a huge reach. Vernon was the pick. No one knows if the Jets tried to trade out of the 6 spot or not. I would bet that 90% of the GMs in the NFL would have taken Gholston in Tanny's shoes.

[bitonti]

If the Jets had selected any other player not mentioned here, it would have been a huge reach. Vernon was the pick. No one knows if the Jets tried to trade out of the 6 spot or not. I would bet that 90% of the GMs in the NFL would have taken Gholston in Tanny's shoes.

also keep in mind, the player everyone wanted, McFadden, has been injured... alot.

it was just a weak draft at the top end. it happens. Certain drafts the players aren't that great.

[JustInFudge]

those meetings should be finalized by wed imo

I'm not going to lie, this might be the most minuscule nitpicky thing I've seen on this board.

[KSJets]

Now I know why Pats' fans call him assmop

[afosomf]

Now I know why Pats' fans call him assmop

what a brilliant retort, can i get a warning point for what i am thinking right now

[Blackout]

Am i finally off the hook for silliest thread ever?

not yet

[SenorGato]

Almost EVERY GM does the same thing. Some of them weigh in heavier than others is all. But every team relies HEAVILY on their scouting department which does not include the GM.

Yeah, but how many teams let some Bean Counter be their GM?

I want my GM to be MEN, not some nerd who can't figure out the uber complex art of football!

[AFJF]

I'm not a member of the "If Belly does it that way, we should all do it that way" club. Every team has a different method. If you have people that work for you, who you trust, then there is no problem with having them in the room.

I've seen people say that it should be the owner, HC, GM, O-coordinator, and D-coordinator?

REALLY? REALLY? You want the people who are supposed to be 100% committed to running the team at the pro level in the room, and then kick out the guys who are 100% committed to scouting and talent evaluation? Ugh...

[stoicsentry]

Everyone misses. Let's examine the Gholston pick (which by far has been Tanny's worst)

Glenn Dorsey (DT, 5) went just before the Jets pick, and Sedrick Ellis (DT, 7) went just after. Both have been solid players, but neither really fit the Jets scheme at the time. The Jets had also just acquired a guy by the name of Kris Jenkins, which meant that DT was a low priority.

Derrick Harvey (DE, 8), a bust by all accounts, came next. Keith Rivers (OLB, 9) was drafted by the Bengals, and then Jarod Mayo (ILB, 10) rounded out the top ten. Rivers is not a 3-4 OLB, so he was not an option. Obviously Mayo would have been a nice pick up, but the Jets already had starters at the ILB position and even the Pats were criticized for reaching.

If the Jets had selected any other player not mentioned here, it would have been a huge reach. Vernon was the pick. No one knows if the Jets tried to trade out of the 6 spot or not. I would bet that 90% of the GMs in the NFL would have taken Gholston in Tanny's shoes.

Stop confusing me with facts!

[LEAN_ETC_GANGGREEN_MACHINE]

One time, when I was the President of The United State of Guam, I made all the decisions myself. Almost true story. I imported grapes.

Where did you import the grapes from? And did you have a War Room in that decision making process?

[LEAN_ETC_GANGGREEN_MACHINE]

The War Room concept truly shows you want kind of genius ideas you can get when a bunch of geniuses put their noodles together: there is 100% zero accountability when you screw up royally in the draft--who are you going to point your finger at? But they should allow a key decision maker into their select caba: namely, myself. And I would bring Revis and his agent there to have Revis he's holding out until his contract is restructured and also the film crew for Hard Knocks so they can film all this madness and mayhem, so when this draft go down the crapper, since there's more holes to fill then the Cheesehead Nation, we can blame on a number of things. And I would also like to retract my opinion that the Jets should sign up some of the goons from the Rangers--Chris Neil has almost singlehandedly punked all of them. And the second goal the Senators scored where Neil took his stick shoved Lundquist out of the net and then kicked the puck into the empty net--that's what the gets could use: brains and brawn.

[T0mShane]

This thread will be so funny after Tannenbaum is fired. All of the "Well, what I really meant was" mea culpas will be awesome to read.

[Ryno the Jet]

This thread will be so funny after Tannenbaum is fired. All of the "Well, what I really meant was" mea culpas will be awesome to read.

I'll stand by my statement that he would be hired by another team straight away, if he so desired. I know you think he is the bane of the franchise, but I would argue that there are several teams out there that would kill for Tannenbaum. I agree he is not amongst the very best in the league, but few are man. Seriously, who would you hire? Polian? Cower? Tuna? Mickey Loomis?