Blackout Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7838319/new-york-jets-draft-room-place-debate-decide-think-good-thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 13 effen guys in the warroom, this happens when your GM knows d1ck about football players and has to ask 12 opinions on each player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Right...only the Jets have their football people in their war room. I'm sure every other team doesn't utilize a single personnel guy. Just the GM and HC in a room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Right...only the Jets have their football people in their war room. I'm sure every other team doesn't utilize a single personnel guy. Just the GM and HC in a room. Except the Jets have a unique situation where their GM and HC have proven to be the two least qualified people actually in that room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 13 effen guys in the warroom, this happens when your GM knows d1ck about football players and has to ask 12 opinions on each player. So true so true....the good teams rely on one man and one man alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 Except the Jets have a unique situation where their GM and HC have proven to be the two least qualified people actually in that room. ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 13 effen guys in the warroom, this happens when your GM knows d1ck about football players and has to ask 12 opinions on each player. Yeah, that's crazy. No good leader considers the thoughts and opinions of other qualified professionals. It's basically admitting that Tannenbaum isn't capable of single-handedly watching every draft prospect for hours on end and objectively analyzing each and every one of their strengths and weaknesses without personal bias at all. That is such an easy task and the fact that Tannenbaum can't do that alone is just embarrassing. I can't think of a single GM in the league other than Tannenbaum that has such a staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 yeah this GM sucks when it comes to the draft, great numbers guy but not good with talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Not to take a way from the negativity...But that was possibly the best and most insightful Cimini article I have ever read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 yeah this GM sucks when it comes to the draft, great numbers guy but not good with talent Yeah this team has been a disaster since he got here. I don't think he ever had a good draft class. Need proof? Just look at the results. Have we won a single playoff game since this moron got here? I don't think so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 One time, when I was the President of The United State of Guam, I made all the decisions myself. Almost true story. I imported grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Yeah, that's crazy. No good leader considers the thoughts and opinions of other qualified professionals. It's basically admitting that Tannenbaum isn't capable of single-handedly watching every draft prospect for hours on end and objectively analyzing each and every one of their strengths and weaknesses without personal bias at all. That is such an easy task and the fact that Tannenbaum can't do that alone is just embarrassing. I can't think of a single GM in the league other than Tannenbaum that has such a staff. excuse meeeee 13 guys is way too much Wouldnt have any issue with 5 or 6. It should tell you Tanny has no clue what he is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorge o8 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Yeah this team has been a disaster since he got here. I don't think he ever had a good draft class. Need proof? Just look at the results. Have we won a single playoff game since this moron got here? I don't think so... whe just dont have depth any starter goes down we are in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnj18 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think Mike T needs to read this and remember the reason he traded up for Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think Mike T needs to read this and remember the reason he traded up for Mark. Because the American Latino market is a largely untapped corporate demographic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Because the American Latino market is a largely untapped corporate demographic? The Shane, Tanny, Romance continues.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 The Shane, Tanny, Romance continues.. It's pretty much just the Shane/Shane romance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 It's pretty much just the Shane/Shane romance. Yeah, but the sex is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think Mike T needs to read this and remember the reason he traded up for Mark. Why is that, in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 excuse meeeee 13 guys is way too much Wouldnt have any issue with 5 or 6. It should tell you Tanny has no clue what he is doing Way too much as compared to....? Then again I always killed the Madden drsft doing my own scouting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 excuse meeeee 13 guys is way too much Wouldnt have any issue with 5 or 6. It should tell you Tanny has no clue what he is doing Good point. I'll defer to your wisdom on this matter, since I trust that you are more qualified to make this decision than a lowly general manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Right...only the Jets have their football people in their war room. I'm sure every other team doesn't utilize a single personnel guy. Just the GM and HC in a room. http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jets 10. Different strokes. On Saturday, I wrote a piece on the Jets' draft room -- specifically, the people in the room (a total of 13) and how they make decisions. GM Mike Tannenbaum appreciates input from everyone. Not surprisingly, the Patriots have a different approach. The NFL Network's Mike Lombardi, who used to work with Bill Belichick, described the Belichick way (quote courtesy of ESPNBoston.com): "The draft room will be very small. ... It will only be four people. Belichick's big thing is that he's not looking for more opinions, he's looking for right opinions. The scouts do their job, which is prepare him for the draft, then ... there is only one decision-maker in New England. He doesn't want any confusion on draft day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Many different roads lead to Dublin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnj18 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Why is that, in your opinion? He obviously saw potential in Mark and thought he was a good player. Mark proved that with two AFC championships. He should continue to focus on Mark's progress by surrounding him with the weapons he needs to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Many different roads lead to Dublin. Agreed. I doubt anyone is surprised that bellyache and tanny do things differently. And it should surprise no one that bellboy's ego won't allow anyone to influence his decision on draft day. While they could have gone better, tanny's drafts have been decent. It is not easy. Very few teams are great drafters. Who's to say how many guys you should have in the war room? As many as it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Except the Jets have a unique situation where their GM and HC have proven to be the two least qualified people actually in that room. I have twoi words for you. JOHN CONNOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 One time, when I was the President of The United State of Guam, I made all the decisions myself. Almost true story. I imported grapes. I am actually interested in more of this story of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 go Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Adam Schein jut said look for the Jets to stay put and select one of these four guys: Barron Upshaw Floyd Chandler Jones Possibly trade up with Jax if Ingram is there. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Adam Schein jut said look for the Jets to stay put and select one of these four guys: Barron Upshaw Floyd Chandler Jones Possibly trade up with Jax if Ingram is there. That's it. I see Schein is using the same "sources" he used when he was working afternoon drive on Syracuse radio. Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I see Schein is using the same "sources" he used when he was working afternoon drive on Syracuse radio. Google. I mean he's the walking stereotype of a Jets fan but I secretly like him. I give him more credit than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Barron Upshaw Floyd Chandler Jones In order: maybe, absolutely not, probably, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 In order: maybe, absolutely not, probably, probably not. Are you basing this on what the Jets will do or your hopes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I mean he's the walking stereotype of a Jets fan but I secretly like him. I give him more credit than that... I had to give up on him when he started referring to himself as an "NFL Insider." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Adam Schein jut said look for the Jets to stay put and select one of these four guys: Barron Upshaw Floyd Chandler Jones Possibly trade up with Jax if Ingram is there. That's it. I am very happy with this approach. Unless we trade Revis for one of the top 5 picks this year, and number 2, and a number one next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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