hoping4ASuperBowl Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 https://twitter.com/#!/BrianCoz/statuses/195861177505558529 The Jets are targeting WR in second round, source said. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 hope Stephen Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Who wants to bet the Jets dont take a WR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 The top receivers likely to go in round 2 are Jeffrey's, Randle, Hill, and Sanu. Who would you guys take? I'd be fine with any of those listed, but would prefer Randle. He has some Hakeem Nicks to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Hilly, Randle, Jeffrey or Sanu are still available; probably in that order for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 https://twitter.com/...861177505558529 The Jets are targeting WR in second round, source said. FWIW. This is smoke screen so no one can see their hard on for Upshaw. It will keep the price low for the move up. Oh yes... that is all this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Who wants to bet the Jets dont take a WR? This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 This Here are the list of OLB/WR's who have visited. We know the Jets take players from their visits. I'm sorry, the OLB group is 10x more attractive than the WR group. Plus, a couple of those WR's can be had beyond the 2nd round. 3-4 OLBs and other linebackers Melvin Ingram – OLB – South Carolina Quinton Coples – DE/OLB – North Carolina Bruce Irvin – OLB – West Virginia Demario Davis – OLB – Arkansas State Ronnell Lewis – OLB – Oklahoma Vinny Curry – OLB – Marshall Justin Francis – OLB – Rutgers (local) Whitney Mercilus – OLB – Illinois Julian Stanford – OLB – Wagner College (local) Chandler Jones – OLB – Syracuse (local) Tahir Whitehead – OLB – Temple (local) Cameron Collins – LB – Oregon State Zach Brown – LB – North Carolina Jake Bequette – OLB – Arkansas Wideouts Stephen Hill – WR – Georgia Tech Joe Adams – WR – Arkansas Kendall Wright – WR – Baylor Alshon Jeffery – WR – South Carolina Michael Floyd – WR – Notre Dame Rueben Randle – WR – LSU Chris Givens – WR – Wake Forest Mohamed Sanu – WR – Rutgers (local) Jeremy Ebert – WR – Northwestern Tony Logan – WR – Maryland (local) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Who wants to bet the Jets dont take a WR? I've had my heart set on an OLB for a while now, but I think it's just safe to say that our FO doesn't value that position like we do or they see it in a different mold. I was for sure Coples was going to be brought in for that role, but I was wrong. When I found that out, I was hoping Upshaw, Curry or Branch fell to us. I would prefer that over one of the receivers, but I can't argue if Hill, Jeffrey or Randle is there considering their talent. Especially Randle, since I would love to have an LSU boy on the team...and lord knows he's used to playing with some sh*tty QBs. The top receivers likely to go in round 2 are Jeffrey's, Randle, Hill, and Sanu. Who would you guys take? I'd be fine with any of those listed, but would prefer Randle. He has some Hakeem Nicks to him. I prefer Randle, but that's mostly because I've seen every game he's played in. He was one of the most highly recruited prospects coming out of HS and has put up some decent numbers playing with some of the absolute worst quarterback play that I have ever seen. Hill is just an absolute freak and although I've only seen him a little, he would be a great addition value wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 If the Michael Floyd reports were true, it would make sense they may go in this direction. If they wait on a receiver, they will have a chance at other big guys later. I happen to like Sanu and Randle and hope one would be there when we pick at 16 tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 a WR? why thats just great, so much for a trade up for upshaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I've had my heart set on an OLB for a while now, but I think it's just safe to say that our FO doesn't value that position like we do or they see it in a different mold. I was for sure Coples was going to be brought in for that role, but I was wrong. When I found that out, I was hoping Upshaw, Curry or Branch fell to us. I would prefer that over one of the receivers, but I can't argue if Hill, Jeffrey or Randle is there considering their talent. Especially Randle, since I would love to have an LSU boy on the team...and lord knows he's used to playing with some sh*tty QBs. Coples will spend time at OLB. Book it. And see my post above. They should still be a in good position for an OLB prospect who I like a lot more than WR. I'm pretty confident Hill is going to be gone within the first 5 picks, STL or CLEV. In fact, I see Randle, Hill and Jeffrey all being selected before the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Hill is best probaly right now out there to pick or maybe Sanu if you want a multi dimesional guy that might play several positions and has impeccable character trait to match against Holmes!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Here are the list of OLB/WR's who have visited. We know the Jets take players from their visits. I'm sorry, the OLB group is 10x more attractive than the WR group. Plus, a couple of those WR's can be had beyond the 2nd round. 3-4 OLBs and other linebackers Melvin Ingram – OLB – South Carolina Quinton Coples – DE/OLB – North Carolina Bruce Irvin – OLB – West Virginia Demario Davis – OLB – Arkansas State Ronnell Lewis – OLB – Oklahoma Vinny Curry – OLB – Marshall Justin Francis – OLB – Rutgers (local) Whitney Mercilus – OLB – Illinois Julian Stanford – OLB – Wagner College (local) Chandler Jones – OLB – Syracuse (local) Tahir Whitehead – OLB – Temple (local) Cameron Collins – LB – Oregon State Zach Brown – LB – North Carolina Jake Bequette – OLB – Arkansas Wideouts Stephen Hill – WR – Georgia Tech Joe Adams – WR – Arkansas Kendall Wright – WR – Baylor Alshon Jeffery – WR – South Carolina Michael Floyd – WR – Notre Dame Rueben Randle – WR – LSU Chris Givens – WR – Wake Forest Mohamed Sanu – WR – Rutgers (local) Jeremy Ebert – WR – Northwestern Tony Logan – WR – Maryland (local) Aren't all those OLBs DE converts? Like I just said in the another thread, I think all things being equal, they'll take the guy who doesn't have to make a position change in the pros. So while I don't generally give a lot of credence to these reports, I think it makes sense that they'd be targeting a WR. Keep in mind, too, that Rex and Tanny's future remains tied to the fortunes of Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Who wants to bet the Jets dont take a WR? I sure dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Aren't all those OLBs DE converts? Like I just said in the another thread, I think all things being equal, they'll take the guy who doesn't have to make a position change in the pros. So while I don't generally give a lot of credence to these reports, I think it makes sense that they'd be targeting a WR. Keep in mind, too, that Rex and Tanny's future remains tied to the fortunes of Mark Sanchez. What OLB in the NFL isnt a DE convert? I dont see any of those WR's impacting Sanchez more than the moves the team has made in in the past in trying to build talent around him. Also, I dont see any of those guys being available. Maybe Sanu...but I dont like him better than any of those OLB prospects. I'm pretty sure Hill, Jeffrey and Randle will be gone which for me means wait on WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Actually of the OLBs bolder only Curry didn't play LB in college. Really hoping for Brown or Davis on Day 2...like both to help cover TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I have to believe that the Jets will see how it unfolds. I guess there will be plenty more trades at the top of the second round since some of these guys were not expected to still be available. I wouldn't rule out another DB or OL, though I agree they really should take a linebacker or WR. More guys: Cordy Glenn Guard 6’5½” 348 lbs Georgia Peter Konz Center 6’5″ 313 lbs. Wisconsin Bobbie Massie Tackle 6’6″ 310 lbs. Mississippi Amini Silatolu Guard 6’3½” 320 lbs. Midwestern State Jonathan Martin Tackle 6’5½” 297 lbs. Stanford Casey Hayward Cornerback 5’11½” 185 lbs. Vanderbilt Janoris Jenkins Cornerback 5’10″ 183 lbs. North Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 What OLB in the NFL isnt a DE convert? I dont see any of those WR's impacting Sanchez more than the moves the team has made in in the past in trying to build talent around him. Also, I dont see any of those guys being available. Maybe Sanu...but I dont like him better than any of those OLB prospects. I'm pretty sure Hill, Jeffrey and Randle will be gone which for me means wait on WR. I'm all about the BAP, and I'm hoping the Jets are, too. I'm encouraged by last night's pick. If all of those WR's are off the board, then maybe one of those DE/OLBs is the choice. But I think that player would have to be rated well above not only any WR, but maybe RB and OT as well because 1.) they've already bolstered the pass rush, and 2.) there's just more of a risk with these converts than there is with a guy playing the same position in the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I think the Jets are moving towards that Ravens or Giants style of drafting the best combo of tools and skills still on the board...Post-2009 it's moved in that direction IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm all about the BAP, and I'm hoping the Jets are, too. I'm encouraged by last night's pick. If all of those WR's are off the board, then maybe one of those DE/OLBs is the choice. But I think that player would have to be rated well above not only any WR, but maybe RB and OT as well because 1.) they've already bolstered the pass rush, and 2.) there's just more of a risk with these converts than there is with a guy playing the same position in the pros. Yeah but of those WR's, only Sanu and Jeffrey actually got the ball thrown to him. And I think if watching the Giants has shown us anything, you can never have enough pass rushers. Jeffrey's fatness makes me nervous. And Sanu was kind of a one year wonder. Just dont like any of those guys, I'd rather go pass rusher again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Looking at the picks above us, I don't see how we target a WR unless we move up. With the Browns, Rams and Panthers all picking ahead of us, I'd be shocked if Hill, Randle and Jeffrey are still there. That would leave us with Sanu and Toon, neither of which I really feel are any better than Upshaw, Branch or Curry if available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Yeah but of those WR's, only Sanu and Jeffrey actually got the ball thrown to him. And I think if watching the Giants has shown us anything, you can never have enough pass rushers. Jeffrey's fatness makes me nervous. And Sanu was kind of a one year wonder. Just dont like any of those guys, I'd rather go pass rusher again. I'm completely with you. Wide receivers always take a bit longer to contribute and it's pretty clear that our OLB core is going to take a huge hit in the next year or so with Thomas and Pace most likely being off the team. I have zero problem going DE and OLB with our first two picks and would love the upshaw, branch or curry pick. I wouldn't be upset if we walked away with Hill, Randle or Jeffrey, I just would prefer the aforementioned three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm completely with you. Wide receivers always take a bit longer to contribute and it's pretty clear that our OLB core is going to take a huge hit in the next year or so with Thomas and Pace most likely being off the team. I have zero problem going DE and OLB with our first two picks and would love the upshaw, branch or curry pick. I wouldn't be upset if we walked away with Hill, Randle or Jeffrey, I just would prefer the aforementioned three. I hear you guys, but overall the offense is much needier than the defense, and I think the Jets will be looking hard at not just WRs, but RBs and OL, too. An offense that can stay on the field for more than three plays at a time would help the defense as much as another pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm completely with you. Wide receivers always take a bit longer to contribute and it's pretty clear that our OLB core is going to take a huge hit in the next year or so with Thomas and Pace most likely being off the team. I have zero problem going DE and OLB with our first two picks and would love the upshaw, branch or curry pick. I wouldn't be upset if we walked away with Hill, Randle or Jeffrey, I just would prefer the aforementioned three. Yep...but like you said, with the teams who select in front of the Jets, many of them who traded down to select in that spot, I suspect a run of WR's. Namely, Hill, Jeffrey, Randle and even possibly Sanu. And any WR not of those names, is a major reach in the 2nd. Plus, I really like a bunch of prospects at WR who can be had late: Juron Criner Brian Quick Marvin Jones Marcus McNutt Nick Toon Tommy Streeter All big and fast and can stretch the field and be had in the 3rd to 5th rounds. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khesanh Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Coples will spend time at OLB. Book it. And see my post above. They should still be a in good position for an OLB prospect who I like a lot more than WR. I'm pretty confident Hill is going to be gone within the first 5 picks, STL or CLEV. In fact, I see Randle, Hill and Jeffrey all being selected before the Jets. On the jets website he is already listed as a LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I hear you guys, but overall the offense is much needier than the defense, and I think the Jets will be looking hard at not just WRs, but RBs and OL, too. An offense that can stay on the field for more than three plays at a time would help the defense as much as another pass rusher. My ideal picks would be trading up for Cordy Glenn or hoping Mike Adams falls as they'd be ideal RTs, but I just don't see that as an option considering St. Louis is picking at 2.1 and will probably go with Glenn and the Bills and Dolphins pick right before us who will nab Massie and Adams. I mean it's all very fluid and anyone can drop, but I think my point was Upshaw probably has better value compared to any of the receivers and I like going with BPA so we don't reach. I guess the best question would be, who's highest on their board; if Glenn, Adams, Massie, Upshaw, Branch, Curry, Randle, Hill and Jeffrey are all on the board, who do they take? If they take whomever is highest on their board, I guess I'm not particularly worried about what position. Although I definitely agree that an offense that can sustain drives consistently would be a hell of a boost to our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I want Ronnell Lewis, i want to see him hitting Tom brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Time to move up for Glenn. He fills a major need and his versatility makes him a great long term acquisition. He could replace Hunter and could be bumped inside if need be. I did not like him at 16 but Rd 2 is a different deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm just so torn with this second round as there are a solid half dozen picks that I truly want. Glenn, Adams, Upshaw, Branch, Randle and Hill are all guys that would be excellent value in the middle of the second. Part of me feels that a slighted Upshaw is going to play with such a chip on his shoulder that he will make everyone regret passing on him in the bottom of the second. I just think he's a guy who can play OLB and kick inside on downs when Maybin comes on and Scott goes off. I think he offers a lot of versatility, but I also agree that our offense needs a lot of help. Gahh I'm more nervous about this second round than the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I'm just so torn with this second round as there are a solid half dozen picks that I truly want. Glenn, Adams, Upshaw, Branch, Randle and Hill are all guys that would be excellent value in the middle of the second. Part of me feels that a slighted Upshaw is going to play with such a chip on his shoulder that he will make everyone regret passing on him in the bottom of the second. I just think he's a guy who can play OLB and kick inside on downs when Maybin comes on and Scott goes off. I think he offers a lot of versatility, but I also agree that our offense needs a lot of help. Gahh I'm more nervous about this second round than the first. Would you burn meaningful 2013 picks to move up for both Glenn & Upshaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Would you burn meaningful 2013 picks to move up for both Glenn & Upshaw? I would use later round picks this year to move up and grab one of them, but I don't like the idea of using future picks as we don't really know who's going to standout next year on our team and in college football, so there's too many variables there for me. If i had to choose between the two of them I would say that Glenn fits a bigger need and is probably the superior prospect comparably, but not by too much. I just think Upshaw is a hell of a football player and a perfect second round pick. The kid can play any of our backer positions and would play them well, i just think that gives us great flexibility. However, having missed on Hightower, I see no way that Baltimore passes him up, unless they are that fearful of Birk's age and go Konz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 hope Stephen Hill I hope we take an olineman instead. I do., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Here are the list of OLB/WR's who have visited. We know the Jets take players from their visits. I'm sorry, the OLB group is 10x more attractive than the WR group. Plus, a couple of those WR's can be had beyond the 2nd round. The Jets could draft Lawrence Taylor and still be dead in the water if they don't help their QBs out with a decent target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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