Gastineau Lives Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5776/kyle-wilson The Jets areconsidering using CB Kyle Wilson at free safety in the base defense this season. It would be a sensible move. Although Wilson (5'10/190) is undersized for safety, he has enough range to man centerfield, and the Jets' biggest defensive weakness is at free safety. Rookie Dee Milliner has taken Wilson's old starting corner job. The Jets could use Wilson in a Ronde Barber-like role, playing free safety in the base defense and slot cornerback in the nickel and dime. Aug 5 - 5:18 PM Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I changed the topic title- do not be so vague with topics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 I changed the topic title- do not be so vague with topics I write for the theatre and screen. Forgive me for a little dramatic license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 No problem just want people to know what exactly the topic is about in heading. Good idea he seems more suited to safety position as many here have said in the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Surprised not more comments regarding this topic since it's the one true question mark we have on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Surprised not more comments regarding this topic since it's the one true question mark we have on defense. They do need to get more athletic, quickly, but Wilson has terrible ball skills. He's a great tackler, but he can't play the ball in the air to save his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 If the point is to get the best 11 players on the field for a base defense then yes Kyle Wilson deserves to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I've been asking this question for a while now. Said the same thing about Lowery. Vote HS for the C in 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 . Good idea he seems more suited to safety position as many here have said in the past I think what they said was more like, "Try him at safety since he's mediocre at best covering anybody". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 They do need to get more athletic, quickly, but Wilson has terrible ball skills. He's a great tackler, but he can't play the ball in the air to save his life. I don't really agree. His problem appears to be getting his head around. At S he'd be facing the ball and he looks decent in zone to me. I think he'd be a good part time S to use against pass happy teams. The other guys we have are mainly in the box guys. Seems more like an indictment of Bush than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeKlecko Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I haven't seen enough games over the last year or two to say, but based on what I've seen guys here and on other Jets' sites say, he seems to be much better with the ball in front of him. I certainly don't think it could hurt much to at least try it. I wonder if they're considering doing this because they're not happy with Allen and Bush? It would seem so. If Wilson is at FS, then that would move Landry back to SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsjets Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 way too small to go up against the TEs in the NFL, he is a good number 3, i say leave him there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I like this idea a helluva lot better than placing phone calls to Kerry Rhodes or Eric Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I don't really agree. His problem appears to be getting his head around. At S he'd be facing the ball and he looks decent in zone to me. I think he'd be a good part time S to use against pass happy teams. The other guys we have are mainly in the box guys. Seems more like an indictment of Bush than anything else. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 way too small to go up against the TEs in the NFL Nobody in this league is too big to wag your finger at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eboozer Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Nobody in this league is too big to wag your finger at. This! LOL! I personally think he's best kept in the slot against the Amendola's of the world, with Cro and Milliner outside(man, there is a LOT! riding on how quickly Dee develops). I'd personally like to get a vet in here with camp cutdowns looming. Not Rhodes, and definitely not Smith. Stick with Allen or Jarret for a preseason game or two and see how they perform. But if their play stinks, get a vet in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 way too small to go up against the TEs in the NFL, he is a good number 3, i say leave him there DB's have been getting smaller these days, I'm not worried about it. I seem to remember Jim Leonhard once owning a healthy Antonio Gates in a playoff game. If Wilson is better at safety than he is at CB, give it a shot. Having Cro and Milliner affords us a little bit a of creativity in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 DB's have been getting smaller these days, I'm not worried about it. I seem to remember Jim Leonhard once owning a healthy Antonio Gates in a playoff game. If Wilson is better at safety than he is at CB, give it a shot. Having Cro and Milliner affords us a little bit a of creativity in this area. I'm not sure what the problem is other than this board being full of size queens. Wouldn't you prefer Wilson right up on Gronkowski to watching Pace flail his arms from 11 yards away? Sure Wilson is going to get muscled by TEs sometimes, but I think the idea is to have him play FS out in space where we want him to cover ground and break on the ball. Personally I like Trufant in the slot but he is coming off the ACL IIRC. Lankster too. Against the pass our best set might be with Wilson @ FS, Landry SS, with Trufant or Lankster in the slot and Milliner and Cro outside. The idea is to get the best guys on the field, not be all caught up in labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Not a bad idea. Wilson facing the ball may be helpful to his coverage skills. His closing speed and tackling are fine already. Maybe try Bush at slot corner, he seems like more of a finesse cover guy than a physical guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeKlecko Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Not a bad idea. Wilson facing the ball may be helpful to his coverage skills. His closing speed and tackling are fine already. Maybe try Bush at slot corner, he seems like more of a finesse cover guy than a physical guy. I think Bush also played CB in college, so it's not like he'd have to learn a new position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 having Wilson with the ball in front of him should lessen the holding / pass interfence part of his game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I don't really agree. His problem appears to be getting his head around. At S he'd be facing the ball and he looks decent in zone to me. I think he'd be a good part time S to use against pass happy teams. The other guys we have are mainly in the box guys. Seems more like an indictment of Bush than anything else. Yeah, I agree with all of this. I think he's a decent CB, actually, but facing the QB from the safety position can only be a plus for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 it seems Dee Milliner has already unseated Wilson - the former first round bust - and it looks like he will play third fiddle (slot CB) or FS. He could be pretty good as a ballhawk safety, but he doesn't tackle well, especially in space. What he does do relatively well is catch the ball if he doesn't have to first turn and find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 it seems Dee Milliner has already unseated Wilson - the former first round bust - and it looks like he will play third fiddle (slot CB) or FS. He could be pretty good as a ballhawk safety, but he doesn't tackle well, especially in space. What he does do relatively well is catch the ball if he doesn't have to first turn and find it. Wilson may have been a little bit disappointing given his draft position, but he's still a better player than he gets credit for around here and by absolutely no measurement does he qualify as a "bust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 it seems Dee Milliner has already unseated Wilson - the former first round bust - and it looks like he will play third fiddle (slot CB) or FS. He could be pretty good as a ballhawk safety, but he doesn't tackle well, especially in space. What he does do relatively well is catch the ball if he doesn't have to first turn and find it. I think the exact opposite of what you just said. His ball skills are marginal, but his tackling is sound. That's why he's good in the slot, because despite giving up a reception, it's usually for very little gain. Welcome to the board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Wilson may have been a little bit disappointing given his draft position, but he's still a better player than he gets credit for around here and by absolutely no measurement does he qualify as a "bust". That was the Vlad draft. By the time we were selecting Kyle Wilson (who Rob Ryan was supposedly gushing over) there was very little talent, save maybe Patrick Robinson selected a few slots later. But hey, roll the dice--flip a coin. We could have easily done much, much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I have said in the past that Wilson would make a great strong safety. He can cover and tackle, he mixes it up in the middle of the field, not afraid to play with the bigger bodies. His biggest fault is when his back is turned to the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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