flgreen Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Ex-Jets: We want Sanchez August, 20, 2013 Aug 20 9:08 PM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Mark Sanchez may not be the people's choice, but he's the choice of many former Jets. SANCHEZ vs. SMITH: WHO'S WINNING? Tuesday's advantage: Smith Geno Smith's day: Completed 11 of 12 in team drills, including a long TD. Only hiccup was an INT in 7-on-7s. Mark Sanchez's day: Went 4-for-7 with the backups, but overthrew a wide-open receiver for a would-be TD. Quote: "He looked good. I still don't think his ankle is 100 percent, but he's certainly getting close to that." -- Rex Ryan on Smith More than 20 ex-Jets, mostly from the 1960s, 70s and 80s, attended practice Tuesday as part of an alumni day. ESPNNewYork.com polled a dozen alums, posing the question: Who would you start on opening day, Sanchez or Geno Smith? The results: Sanchez -- Nine votes Smith -- Zero Undecided -- Three Here's a sampling of comments: Bobby Jackson, CB, 1980s: "I'm not a big Mark Sanchez fan, but I'm a realist. He gives them the best chance." John Schmitt, C, Super Bowl III team: "I'd say Mark. He knows what to expect. It's so hard for a kid to come out of college and grasp an NFL offense and grasp NFL defenses, as well. ... Geno needs a lot more time. That's my honest feeling." Bruce Harper, KR, 1970s/80s: "From an outsider's view, I'd say Mark. He's the veteran and I don't think they've seen enough of Geno. ... Mark is the man until proven otherwise." Joe Klecko, DT, 1970s/80s: "It's up in the air. If the kid shows something against the Giants, I think it throws a dilemma into Rex's kitchen. Sanchez has too much baggage. If Geno does well, it's a good dilemma." Chad Cascadden, LB, 1990s: "Mark's ready, Geno's not ready yet. Mark's a four-year starter, he's seen it all. I don't think Geno has done enough to unseat that. I like how Mark responded two games ago after that early interception in Detroit. He bounced back quickly. You need that leadership." Richard Caster, TE, 1970s: "Unless something goes crazy, I think you have to start with the established quarterback. Unless [smith] is super-duper, out of this world against the Giants, I'd go with the proven commodity." Randy Beverly, DB, Super Bowl III team: "I'm still wide open. I want to see more." Jeff Richardson, OL, Super Bowl III team: "I'd go with Sanchez. Right now, I haven't seen enough of Geno. I could switch. I'm not married to Sanchez by any means. He's given me some disappointing times." Ted Banker, G, 1980s: "I haven't seen enough of Geno, so I'd go with Sanchez. He's still making mistakes, though. If you go by interceptions and the number of quarters he's played in the preseason, that projects to a lot of interceptions. But I think Rex [Ryan] will go with what he knows, which tells me he'll go with Sanchez." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechJet Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 and if you ask me those ex-jet are not sold on Sanchez either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Glaring endorsements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechJet Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 That title is misleading are you a pro Sanchez supporter? you sound like one. you Rex and Franchez must go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Summary of the responses: "Sanchez is f*cking awful, but I haven't seen Smith do anything yet to show he'd be any better in week 1. As soon as I see 10 passes from Smith and shows that he is even 1% less awful, my mind is then instantly changed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Summary of the responses: "Sanchez is f*cking awful, but I haven't seen Smith do anything yet to show he'd be any better in week 1. As soon as I see 10 passes from Smith and shows that he is even 1% less awful, my mind is then instantly changed." Yeah, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Summary of the responses: "Sanchez is f*cking awful, but I haven't seen Smith do anything yet to show he'd be any better in week 1. As soon as I see 10 passes from Smith and shows that he is even 1% less awful, my mind is then instantly changed." Cimini using the word "want" in the title is straight up trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I am sure they are following the team closely. They don't realize that Mark has been a negative force for this team for the past two years? Best chance to what? Lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 We have not seen Smith against live NFL defenses to make an opinion on him- Mark is a foregone conclusion already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't think there's anyone with any association with the team who doesn't want Sanchez replaced. The question is: is Geno ready to be that replacement? The answer generally comes back, not quite yet. These ex-Jets have a better perspective than most of us, and have seen him up close, and that's the answer they seem to be coming back with, too. And that's okay. Smith will be starting at some point this season. It's okay if he's not starting opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 good reading between the lines stuff from the JN crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 How many of these guys REALLY pay attention to the Jets? Chad Cascadden, does he post here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't think there's anyone with any association with the team who doesn't want Sanchez replaced. The question is: is Geno ready to be that replacement? The answer generally comes back, not quite yet. These ex-Jets have a better perspective than most of us, and have seen him up close, and that's the answer they seem to be coming back with, too. And that's okay. Smith will be starting at some point this season. It's okay if he's not starting opening day. BOOM exactly. Unless Sanchez morphs into Brady, his days here are numbered. This is a rebuilding year anyway. Let Smith get his feet under him. No pressure, no rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 anyone remember if Beverly had 2 or 3 picks in the superbowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blocker Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't think there's anyone with any association with the team who doesn't want Sanchez replaced. The question is: is Geno ready to be that replacement? The answer generally comes back, not quite yet. These ex-Jets have a better perspective than most of us, and have seen him up close, and that's the answer they seem to be coming back with, too. And that's okay. Smith will be starting at some point this season. It's okay if he's not starting opening day. That's the way I read the article and the overall situation as well. As for the last sentence, I believe that since I find it hard to believe Sanchez will play well enough to deserve being the starter all season. That and that at some point the Jets will have to play Smith in order to see what they got with their second round pick. Because if they don't like what they got, they may well have to or want to go back in next year's draft and get a different Qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKnight83 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Picking between Suxchise and Geno is like picking between finishing 3rd or 4th in the division if you ask me. Next year will be a different story I think. Err, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 anyone remember if Beverly had 2 or 3 picks in the superbowl? Too young to really remember, but his son played at UCLA and is a real good guy. I know him from him playing/coaching over in Italy where he lives with his family. He says his dad goes to almost all the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 anyone remember if Beverly had 2 or 3 picks in the superbowl? okay, did my own homework ... Beverley had 2. Jets D as a whole had 3 off of Morrall & 1 off of Johnny U! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Too young to really remember, but his son played at UCLA and is a real good guy. I know him from him playing/coaching over in Italy where he lives with his family. He says his dad goes to almost all the games. sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Cimini using the word "want" in the title is straight up trolling. And however unlikely it seems today, if Mornhinweg decides to go with Smith? Whoa, that flies in the face of Chad Cascadden's assessment of the QB situation!! Idzik sucks! Mornhinweg sucks! Attica! Attica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Sanchez is the best house in a bad neighborhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Sanchez is the best house in a bad neighborhood. Foreclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 sweet! He is our rival. Daemons / Rhinos > Rams / Frogs! And however unlikely it seems today, if Mornhinweg decides to go with Smith? Whoa, that flies in the face of Chad Cascadden's assessment of the QB situation!! Idzik sucks! Mornhinweg sucks! Attica! Attica! JOE MUST GO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Sanchez is the best house in a bad neighborhood. Sanchez is a condemned house in Detroit that has high taxes and $250K in liens against it. He has no value on the open market even at an asking price of $1. The only one willing to own it is the one who already owns it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexiRoll6 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Summary of the responses: "Sanchez is f*cking awful, but I haven't seen Smith do anything yet to show he'd be any better in week 1. As soon as I see 10 passes from Smith and shows that he is even 1% less awful, my mind is then instantly changed." For the Jets to move forward John Idzik needs to know what he has in Smith....period. This is a rebuilding year - no one expects the Jets to win more than six games at BEST. Jets brass, coaches and fans know what Sanchez brings, and while at times it is 'passable' more times than not it isn't. I understand the former players picking the 'established' guy because they would want to win, but what they don't understand is that Sanchez will cost us as many games as he helps win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 For the Jets to move forward John Idzik needs to know what he has in Smith....period. This is a rebuilding year - no one expects the Jets to win more than six games at BEST. Jets brass, coaches and fans know what Sanchez brings, and while at times it is 'passable' more times than not it isn't. I understand the former players picking the 'established' guy because they would want to win, but what they don't understand is that Sanchez will cost us as many games as he helps win. I think they understand that this is a rebuilding year. From at least one of the comments (I'm not clicking backwards to re-read right this second) it's understood that game 1 may not be the best time to start Smith, even for Smith's sake not just for the team's 2013 win total. Also about half the people expect the Jets to win more than 6 games. That's why the over/under on their win total is 6.5 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 The Snap: Training camp, Day 28 August, 21, 2013 Aug 21 6:00 AM ET By Rich Cimini | ESPNNewYork.com FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Training camp is drawing to a close. Wednesday is the last public practice, starting at 11:15 a.m, and the next-to-last camp practice. Only three days away from facing the Giants at MetLife Stadium, the Jets probably will do some game-plan preparation on Wednesday. Teams usually don't do a lot during the preseason, but this is the third game -- the most important game. The starters will play about three quarters. Mark Sanchez and Geno Smith are scheduled to meet the media Wednesday. Smith took the majority of the reps Monday and Tuesday, so it'll be interesting to see what happens. Injuries to watch are CB Dee Milliner (calf) and NT Kenrick Ellis (back), who has missed almost a week. WR Santonio Holmes (foot) could be getting close to being removed from the physically-unable-to-perform list. ICYMI: On Tuesday, the Eagles named their starting quarterback -- Michael Vick. The Browns named their starting quarterback -- Brandon Weeden. The Jets? Silence. Rex Ryan said he's "not comfortable" making a decision, although we can tell you his plan is to start Smith against the Giants. ... More than 20 ex-Jets turned out on alumni day, and we polled a dozen to get their take on the Sanchez-Smith battle. The results may surprise you. ... The Jets are rebuilding on defense, sans Darrelle Revis, but that didn't stop Ryan from predicting a top-5 finish. What, are you surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 pfft. what do those guys know about football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 a comment on a nother board: "the best thing Geno Smith has going for him is that he's not Mark Sanchez" reply: "the worst thing Geno Smith has going for him is that he's Geno Smith" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Richard Caster, TE, 1970s: "Unless something goes crazy, I think you have to start with the established quarterback. Unless [smith] is super-duper, out of this world against the Giants, I'd go with the proven commodity." PROVEN COMMODITY? Are you f*cking kidding me with this, Caster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Basically the coments breakk down - we know Mark is terrible. We have not seen Smith play enough to make a judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 pfft. what do those guys know about football? The best argument some of them made was "Geno isn't ready". Almost none of them were saying Sanchez brings ANYTHING to the table, which is true. None of it was a negative argument against Geno. a comment on a nother board: "the best thing Geno Smith has going for him is that he's not Mark Sanchez" reply: "the worst thing Geno Smith has going for him is that he's Geno Smith" Oh shut the f*ck up already. For a draft "expert" who's over-protected busts in the past you're sure quick to write off Geno. Just shut the f*ck up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 a comment on a nother board: "the best thing Geno Smith has going for him is that he's not Mark Sanchez" reply: "the worst thing Geno Smith has going for him is that he's Geno Smith" This is my fear Won't know probably until after next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Oh shut the f*ck up already. For a draft "expert" who's over-protected busts in the past you're sure quick to write off Geno. Just shut the f*ck up already. SOrry you are gonna lose that 50 bucks homey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 This is my fear Won't know probably until after next season those aren't my comments, I just thought they were funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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