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Schwartz: Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan Was Set Up To Fail In 2013

 

 

December 4, 2013 8:30 AM

 

 

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 Peter Schwartz,

Jets Central

 

 

By Peter Schwartz

 

I feel bad for Rex Ryan.

 

That’s because I’ve been in his shoes. It’s not easy to work for a boss that didn’t hire you. I went through that year ago at a radio station that I used to work at. Ryan is going through it now with the Jets.

 

I can feel his pain!

 

It’s not easy to work under those conditions. In fact, it’s downright uncomfortable. It’s especially tough if you’re expendable. The pressure is unbearable. You just know the end is coming.

 

When Jets general manger John Idzik took the job back in January, he was told by owner Woody Johnson that he had to keep Ryan for at least one year. Well that year is coming to an end, and if Idzik has any shred of power, he’ll want to bring in his own guy.

 

That’s just business.

 

If Johnson forces Idzik to keep Ryan, it’s bad business. Idzik should be allowed to do what he wants. You have to trust the management that you hired. Unfortunately, I know that from experience. At a previous job, I was hired by one program director and fired by another.

 

He kept me for a while but the whole situation was not very pleasant.

 

Ryan has to be feeling the same thing. The feeling is that Ryan has lost a lot of his power within the organization. He was given a rookie quarterback in Geno Smith but Mark Sanchez had apparently won the job in training camp.

 

But, as we all know, Sanchez suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in a preseason game against the Giants, putting Ryan in a tough spot. He had to go with Smith and an underwhelming group of skill-position players. After a 5-4 start, the Jets have lost three in a row, and if they continue to spiral downward, Ryan could very well be shown the door.

 

 

That is if Johnson gives the green light.

 

 

Remember what I said about program director No. 4? He kept me around for a while but eventually told me to take a hike. His boss didn’t want me to get fired. He told me that the day I was let go, but that he had to allow management that he hired to make decisions.

 

 

It’s a tough pill to swallow, but I understood.

 

 

Ryan will too.

 

 

He’ll get another job either as a coach or a broadcaster, but losing your job still hurts. It might have been better for all parties if Idzik was just allowed to bring in his own guy from the start. He would have had his own coach in place as the team went through a transition year.

 

 

Instead, Ryan had the label of lame-duck coach right from the get-go.

 

 

Sometimes I wish my boss had cut ties earlier, as it was easy to see where things were going. It might sound like sour grapes, but I didn’t think I was put in a situation to do my job as well as I could have. In fact, it was my belief that, for over a year, my boss was trying to get me to quit and avoid paying my severance.

 

 

I wasn’t about to quit, and neither is Ryan — nor should he.

 

 

I think Ryan was set up to fail this year, and that’s too bad. He’s a good man and a good coach, but he’s heading toward a third straight non-playoff year. Regardless of the circumstances, his recent track record suggests that the Jets are heading toward a coaching change.

 

 

Things might have been different for Ryan if Smith had progressed instead of regressed, the offense had some playmakers and the secondary was better. He deserves a lot of credit for keeping the Jets airborne through nine games, but he will ultimately be responsible for the end result.

 

 

Ryan will land on his feet. I did the same after I was fired. Things happen for a reason, but it doesn’t make it any easier.

 

 

It’s nothing personal — just business!

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Poor Rex, his roster decisions over the years have been top notch, his attention to the offense constantly undermined, his desire to build a modern day offense has been unwavering, his player development has been first rate, his ability to adapt has been unparalleled. And he is constantly being put in bad situations by mean GM's who have it out for him and will not find Peyton Manning for him.

 

Unfair!

 

Contract extension for life!

 

Defensive mastermind!

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Poor Rex, his roster decisions over the years have been top notch, his attention to the offense constantly undermined, his desire to build a modern day offense has been unwavering, his player development has been first rate, his ability to adapt has been unparalleled. And he is constantly being put in bad situations by mean GM's who have it out for him and will not find Peyton Manning for him.

Unfair!

Contract extension for life!

Defensive mastermind!

POTW

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The interesting thing will be if Idzik is actually pulling the string on some of these playing time decisions.  Supposedly the FO did it last year with Ducasse getting rotation time.  I don't see how Rex lets the FO decide who plays if he believes he is out and there is somebody that could give a better chance of winning.  The more likely truths are 1. that Rex is playing these guys because, right or wrong, he thinks they are the best option or 2. Idzik is telling him, whether is a lie or the truth,that his job is safe and that they are setting themselves up for next year by seeing who can play. 

 

I tend to believe it is the first because the mutiny would come if the players honestly believed there was a better option on the bench.  Bad as they have been, I haven't heard much in-house grumbling that Geno shouldn't start and Rex isn't exactly famous for running a tight ship as far as the media goes. 

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Completely Woody's fault. The fact that he forced Idzik or any other GM to accept the current head coach (not Ryan in particular) just never works. Lovie Smith had a playoff year I believe and still got canned because the GM was forced to live with him for a year, but as soon as that year was over, less a super bowl win, he was going to get canned.

 

Woody knows this, he's seen it all over the NFL but the cheap bum still did it, and now Idzik is salivating waiting to can Ryan on Black Monday. Stupid way to run an organization but leave it to WOODY to screw things up, he always does.

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Completely Woody's fault. The fact that he forced Idzik or any other GM to accept the current head coach (not Ryan in particular) just never works. Lovie Smith had a playoff year I believe and still got canned because the GM was forced to live with him for a year, but as soon as that year was over, less a super bowl win, he was going to get canned.

 

Woody knows this, he's seen it all over the NFL but the cheap bum still did it, and now Idzik is salivating waiting to can Ryan on Black Monday. Stupid way to run an organization but leave it to WOODY to screw things up, he always does.

 

It goes beyond that.  Forcing the coach to accept the coordinators is the same thing. These guys should have defined roles and be in charge of their own fates. 

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It goes beyond that.  Forcing the coach to accept the coordinators is the same thing. These guys should have defined roles and be in charge of their own fates. 

 

Agree, but when Rex did finally get to pick his OC, he chose Sporano.

 

Morningwhig is at least competent, but lets be honest, he literally had nowhere else to go.

 

If he did, there is no way in hell he comes to the Jets with the offense in place that we have, and Rex on borrowed time, no way.

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Completely Woody's fault. The fact that he forced Idzik or any other GM to accept the current head coach (not Ryan in particular) just never works. Lovie Smith had a playoff year I believe and still got canned because the GM was forced to live with him for a year, but as soon as that year was over, less a super bowl win, he was going to get canned.

Woody knows this, he's seen it all over the NFL but the cheap bum still did it, and now Idzik is salivating waiting to can Ryan on Black Monday. Stupid way to run an organization but leave it to WOODY to screw things up, he always does.

+1

If Woody had such a hard-on for Rex, he should have kept Tannenbaum or promoted Cohen. You can't make an outside hire conditional on keeping the coach. Turns the org chart into spaghetti.

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Agree, but when Rex did finally get to pick his OC, he chose Sporano.

 

Morningwhig is at least competent, but lets be honest, he literally had nowhere else to go.

 

If he did, there is no way in hell he comes to the Jets with the offense in place that we have, and Rex on borrowed time, no way.

 

 

Dude you are a one track record.  We are talking about Woody, not Rex.  This is an inherent problem in his thinking.  I might demand that my coach interview these guys, but I would not guarantee jobs for anybody. 

 

As for Sparano, he sucked.  Rex knew it and moved on.  We might have been better served with Rex learning he couldn't win all smashmouth the first year rather than today.  

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Dude you are a one track record.  We are talking about Woody, not Rex.  This is an inherent problem in his thinking.  I might demand that my coach interview these guys, but I would not guarantee jobs for anybody. 

 

As for Sparano, he sucked.  Rex knew it and moved on.  We might have been better served with Rex learning he couldn't win all smashmouth the first year rather than today.  

 

I am a one track record, I want what is best for the Jets, not Rex Ryan like most around here.

 

I agree with you, and I was livid when the Jets forced Schitthead on Rex, I thought it was terrible then.

 

I also thought it was terrible when they limited the pool of GM's by forcing Rex on the next GM.

 

Woody is a complete moron ass hat.

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All this organization dynamics analysis. I thought this was a football team.

If we had a couple of guys who could catch passes, we'd be in the playoff hunt and everyone would be talking about how Geno made this his team right from the first game.

 

it's hard to catch passes that are thrown 15 feet above your head.  David Nelson (who stinks) had 5 overthrown balls last week. Not even Calvin is catching that garbage.

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They didn't show the game in my area so I went by reports that the receivers did not catch anything near them on Sunday.

For the two games before that, the receivers dropped several balls early in the game, which prevented Geno from getting in the rhythm early, which is critical.

If what you say is the case, then apparently we have reached the point where the first year QB is now so psyched out he really can't play. He seemed to be able to hit people early in the year.

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It pays to kiss the medias a## I guess,..Rex nuked this roster personally, he's getting the same results anyone would get after running a business like a child for years....we're going to read more and more of his media buddies blaming idzick and woody in coming weeks and giving Rex a complete pass

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Agree, but when Rex did finally get to pick his OC, he chose Sporano.

 

Morningwhig is at least competent, but lets be honest, he literally had nowhere else to go.

 

If he did, there is no way in hell he comes to the Jets with the offense in place that we have, and Rex on borrowed time, no way.

Great point a lot of people forget because Rex threw sporano under the bus and blamed tanny for everything
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You didn't mention in the post that Rex screwed up in a huge way with Sanchez,

and he sucks at coaching offense, and his staff is weak, other than that, yea

new guys usually want to make changes when the team is pathetic three years running.

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So, after the Saints game when the team was 5-4, where were the articles that said that Rex had no chance to win with this team, and that he was in an impossible situation, and that the roster wasn't NFL-level? Where is that article? Because, seeing as that article didn't exist at that point, it all reeks of revisionist spin now that the team has been non-competitive in three straight games to losing teams. Bottom line, if the team is "talented enough" to beat the Pats and New Orleans, it's "talented enough" to not get blown out by the Bills and Dolphins. The "talent" didn't change; how that talent was handled and applied did.

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So let me get this straight.

 

Last year when Sanchez had nobody to throw the ball to it was because he sucked

This year when Geno had nobody to throw the ball to it it because he sucks

 

Rex though was set up to fail. Even though according to him the Jets had an A+ draft.

 

You can't make this stuff up sometimes. 

 

:rl:

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So, after the Saints game when the team was 5-4, where were the articles that said that Rex had no chance to win with this team, and that he was in an impossible situation, and that the roster wasn't NFL-level? Where is that article? Because, seeing as that article didn't exist at that point, it all reeks of revisionist spin now that the team has been non-competitive in three straight games to losing teams. Bottom line, if the team is "talented enough" to beat the Pats and New Orleans, it's "talented enough" to not get blown out by the Bills and Dolphins. The "talent" didn't change; how that talent was handled and applied did.

After the Saints game Manish Mehta wanted to extend Wrecks and put Geno in Canton, and have both of their babies.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-hot-seat-rex-deserves-warm-back-article-1.1506787

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/mehta-up-and-down-geno-earned-article-1.1505079

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^Kerley, the teams leading WR, wasn't present for the last three games. Toss in a shaky Holmes and I'd say the talent was DEFinitely different in our most recent blowouts.

 Wow, Kerleys agent is copying this post as we write. Just think, with my client we can beat NO and NE, and without, we can lose to teams that are just awful. And if you ask REX I'm sure he will tell you that my client is easily as good as Megatron, after all, he kept telling us that he'd rather have Sanchez than Brady.
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The Jets can't beat any team that can stop the run.  I imagine the Cleveland game will be tough sledding, especially if Cromartie continues getting abused. Strange as it may seem, IMO this team would do much better against KC or Indy. I think offensive personnel is basically the entire problem because I have seen Mornhinweg try several different things without any sustained success.  It is a fact that Rex was set up to fail this year.  The roster is bad and if he had to win to keep his job it wasn't likely.  If it is his fault that the roster was bad he should go, but the fact that they aren't winning is no surprise.

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