SenorGato Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Which of these three - arguably the top 3 FAs after Graham - would you most like to see the Jets pursue relentlessly before losing him to the Vikings or Redskins? Orakpo is the oldest, but he plays the DE/OLB position very well and brings edge pass rushing ability no one on the D has. 12 million? Hardy has never played LB before, but he's 2-3 years younger than Orakpo while being a similarly successful pass rusher. He plays the run better as well, though here that is less of an issue. He's deflected 15 passes in his career including 11 in 2011, so there's competence in making non-sack plays against the pass. 12 million? Byrd fills another major need - a turnover creating, ballhawking safety. He's probably the best safety in football right now while neither of the two above are that at their positions. He's the same age as Hardy - 26 - so there's also that. 9-10 million? Pass rusher or a safety who plays outside of the box at an elite level? What of DeMarcus Ware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Lots of FA's this year in need areas, I think the Jets can fill a lot of holes and go BAP in the Draft. Although I don't see them paying Tanny money for top tier guys. Look to the Jets to get plenty of 2nd tier FA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I think we should give Hardy $11 mil per because Gato kinda liked him coming out of college. Lord knows this team lacks DEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Also, if Idzik can peel off another five milly, we should sign Vince Oghobaase. Maybe play that 8-2-1 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 I think we should give Hardy $11 mil per because Gato kinda liked him coming out of college. Lord knows this team lacks DEs. Shane, you know me like no one else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I still would rather have OLB Jason Worilds and FS Major Wright, both just coming into their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I ******* hate snow, ****ed up my hip drunk sleigh riding down football bleachers and a water main blew. Whole god dam driveway was slush. **** you snow, **** you in your stupid face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Jairus Byrd would vastly upgrade the secondary, but is he worth 6-7 mil per? It will take at least that much to get him. Not sure I'd want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Which of these three - arguably the top 3 FAs after Graham - would you most like to see the Jets pursue relentlessly before losing him to the Vikings or Redskins? Orakpo is the oldest, but he plays the DE/OLB position very well and brings edge pass rushing ability no one on the D has. 12 million? Hardy has never played LB before, but he's 2-3 years younger than Orakpo while being a similarly successful pass rusher. He plays the run better as well, though here that is less of an issue. He's deflected 15 passes in his career including 11 in 2011, so there's competence in making non-sack plays against the pass. 12 million? Byrd fills another major need - a turnover creating, ballhawking safety. He's probably the best safety in football right now while neither of the two above are that at their positions. He's the same age as Hardy - 26 - so there's also that. 9-10 million? Pass rusher or a safety who plays outside of the box at an elite level? What of DeMarcus Ware? I highly doubt Graham hitting FA. With that said, I say we should get two out of the three. Greg Hardy and Jarius Bird. Can you believe Hardy was drafted in the f'ing 6th round? Why cant the jets ever get a guy like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 pay for byrd. i know safety is traditionally downplayed in rex's scheme (don't pretend to really know what that means), i'm sure he could find a way to put a stud like that to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I highly doubt Graham hitting FA. With that said, I say we should get two out of the three. Greg Hardy and Jarius Bird. Can you believe Hardy was drafted in the f'ing 6th round? Why cant the jets ever get a guy like that? danny woodhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I dont think you pay premium for safeties anymore. Just dont. I like Byrd, I do...but breaking the bank on safety just seems to be a waste of money. Orakpo I could see, Hardy not so much. He's the quintessential 4-3 DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 danny woodhead Snacks Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I highly doubt Graham hitting FA. With that said, I say we should get two out of the three. Greg Hardy and Jarius Bird. Can you believe Hardy was drafted in the f'ing 6th round? Why cant the jets ever get a guy like that? Big Snacks wasn't even drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Not that Byrd isn't a great player, but how much value would he really add to this defense? I'm curious. Would he play more man coverage here than in Buffalo and if so, how much would that hurt his game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Orakpo is actually something the Jets need to be realistic about because it's evident that the only way we're ever doing anything with Rex is when the defense is playing at '09 levels of awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I ******* hate snow, ****ed up my hip drunk sleigh riding down football bleachers and a water main blew. Whole god dam driveway was slush. **** you snow, **** you in your stupid face Yes...I would agree on those free agent signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Orakpo is actually something the Jets need to be realistic about because it's evident that the only way we're ever doing anything with Rex is when the defense is playing at '09 levels of awesome. Yeah, but we already know that what we really need for that is the CB1, which is what we had for four years when the pass defense was great and what was missing last year when it regressed. I really don't see Milliner as being at a point where that's not the overriding issue on defense. Also, Johnson over Orakpo and Hardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yeah, but we already know that what we really need for that is the CB1, which is what we had for four years when the pass defense was great and what was missing last year when it regressed. I really don't see Milliner as being at a point where that's not the overriding issue on defense. Also, Johnson over Orakpo and Hardy. So Vontae? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Yes...I would agree on those free agent signings I'm glad somebody appreciates my analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So Vontae? Grimes maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Orakpo is actually something the Jets need to be realistic about because it's evident that the only way we're ever doing anything with Rex is when the defense is playing at '09 levels of awesome. I don't think Orakpo gets out of DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I don't think the jets are shooting the wad in one off season, and they have a lot to spend on keeping current jets, and have an offense and special teams to build so none of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 absolutely think the world of greg hardy but it's alot of money to pay a guy who's not really a linebacker. Of these three players he's probably my personal favorite to do great things and be worth the money. but he's not really a fit here on a Jets team where Calvin Pace got 10 sacks on a min deal (and could do it again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJetsVets91 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Out of these 3? I say Bryd all the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Bryd is the most realistic and reasonable. Don't think Idzik is in a position to give Hardy $12-13 mil to experiment at OLB. As for Orapko, I think his best days are behind him. Will still be productive in getting 8-12 sacks but don't think the risk is worth the reward in giving a similar contract. As for Bryd, he's amoungst the best in the game and still fairly young. He as well may break the bank at $8 mil but I just have faith in him being worth it throughout the life of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 absolutely think the world of greg hardy but it's alot of money to pay a guy who's not really a linebacker. Of these three players he's probably my personal favorite to do great things and be worth the money. but he's not really a fit here on a Jets team where Calvin Pace got 10 sacks on a min deal (and could do it again) That's my thinking as well on Hardy - on paper the "hasn't played LBer" thing is the only thing that keeps him from being a perfect fit. That we both like him is probably a sign. The most obvious fit is Byrd simply because the defense needs a safety and he plays safety. OTOH an outside pass rushing threat on the DL arguably/probably does more, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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