RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Demarre Carroll to the Raps is done. Crazy money flying around for ok players. Being a free agent in the NBA for the next 3 years is going to be the greatest thing in the world to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 15 million a year for role players love free agency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 $80 mil for Millsap? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 $60 million for Carroll. Hooooooly sh*t. Why the **** didn't I become a basketball player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 $60 million for Carroll. Hooooooly sh*t. Why the **** didn't I become a basketball player. Aka Curtis Granderson money. #playbaseballkids In other news, Suh is thinking about transitioning to PF or a Corner Outfield spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Aka Curtis Granderson money. #playbaseballkids Hey, if anyone deserved to be overpaid, it's that guy. He's given so much of that away. First thing he did when he signed with the Mets was take 1/3 of his salary on the year and built a new baseball stadium in Chicago for UIC and youth baseball programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 It's not that 15 for Carroll is that bad, it's just that 11 for Green is so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hey, if anyone deserved to be overpaid, it's that guy. He's given so much of that away. First thing he did when he signed with the Mets was take 1/3 of his salary on the year and built a new baseball stadium in Chicago for UIC and youth baseball programs. Ohh it wasn't a knock on Curtis, I love that guy, one of the nicest guys in baseball. It was more just comparing the stupid money baseball players get when you think about how Suh signed the largest defensive contract in NFL history and his guaranteed money is the same as Curtis'. I know it's not a popular sentiment to talk about how pro-athletes get a raw deal, but the NFL players absolutely get bent over a barrel every time they step to the negotiating tables. No guaranteed contracts? Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Knicks talking to Beverly. I prefer him over Affalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Ohh it wasn't a knock on Curtis, I love that guy, one of the nicest guys in baseball. It was more just comparing the stupid money baseball players get when you think about how Suh signed the largest defensive contract in NFL history and his guaranteed money is the same as Curtis'. I know it's not a popular sentiment to talk about how pro-athletes get a raw deal, but the NFL players absolutely get bent over a barrel every time they step to the negotiating tables. No guaranteed contracts? Geez. Baseball players don't get hurt like football players, so teams have to protect themselves with non-guaranteed deals. But meanwhile it's also much tougher to get onto a roster in baseball (farm system) and basketball (12 guys per team, only 1st rounders matter), so it kind of evens out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Ohh it wasn't a knock on Curtis, I love that guy, one of the nicest guys in baseball. It was more just comparing the stupid money baseball players get when you think about how Suh signed the largest defensive contract in NFL history and his guaranteed money is the same as Curtis'. I know it's not a popular sentiment to talk about how pro-athletes get a raw deal, but the NFL players absolutely get bent over a barrel every time they step to the negotiating tables. No guaranteed contracts? Geez. That's why I love amateur capologists telling me Russell Wilson can't get $20 million per season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Cave resigned Love. Looks like Lebron might be opting out in a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Darren Rovell @darrenrovell In the 1st 15 hours of free agency, NBA teams have committed to more than $560 million in salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Being a free agent in the NBA for the next 3 years is going to be the greatest thing in the world to be. And Melo signed a 5 year deal without an opt-out before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 He is, except that he's more expensive, older, and not as good. So much more expensive Carroll got $24 million more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 So much more expensive Carroll got $24 million more That includes an extra year. Carroll got 4/60, rumor on Afflalo is 3/36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Knicks and Lakers are really cleaning up right now. It's almost as if no one wants to play with a psychotic narcissist ball hog anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Knicks and Lakers are really cleaning up right now. It's almost as if no one wants to play with a psychotic narcissist ball hog anymore Someone's upset that nobody cares about the Nets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Someone's upset that nobody cares about the Nets. No takers for Deron yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Also, the Knicks made a call to Landry Fields. Get up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Also, the Knicks made a call to Landry Fields. Get up. Wanna know who didn't throw a hissy fit when we didn't pay him? I'll give you a hint: everyone in this thread except the guy whose name rhymes with SchmissSchmonelySchmarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Wanna know who didn't throw a hissy fit when we didn't pay him? I'll give you a hint: everyone in this thread except the guy whose name rhymes with SchmissSchmonelySchmarts. Career WP48: Fields .185 Carmelo .065 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Career WP48: Fields .185 Carmelo .065 I don't even know what this stat really means, but I know it means that Melo sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Career WP48: Fields .185 Carmelo .065 SCIENCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 The Knicks will meet with free agents LaMarcus Aldridge and Robin Lopez, separately, in Los Angeles, according to Ian Begley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 The Knicks have reportedly reached out to free agent Jeremy Lin, according to Alex Kennedy of Basketball Insiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I don't even know what this stat really means It doesn't mean anything. It's a composite of box score stats just like all of the other one-number basketball metrics. The difference is that the weights in Berri's model are the product of regression analysis and the others are basically arbitrary and fudged so the outputs align with conventional wisdom. Accordingly, wins produced explains about 95% of outcomes and nothing else is even close. Average is .100 WP48, meaning two teams each playing five average players the whole game will each generate half a win. Fields is solidly above average and Carmelo is a human bowel movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 SCIENCE Math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 In an effort to bolster the frontcourt, the Knicks continue to be mentioned in conjunction with a handful of big men. The latest: Kendrick Perkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Math. Bad math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 It doesn't mean anything. It's a composite of box score stats just like all of the other one-number basketball metrics. The difference is that the weights in Berri's model are the product of regression analysis and the others are basically arbitrary and fudged so the outputs align with conventional wisdom. Accordingly, wins produced explains about 95% of outcomes and nothing else is even close. Average is .100 WP48, meaning two teams each playing five average players the whole game will each generate half a win. Fields is solidly above average and Carmelo is a human bowel movement. Thank you. As an average player myself, I appreciate the breakdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Thank you. As an average player myself, I appreciate the breakdown. For context, this is the stat that has Lebron 13th. Behind Jimmy Butler and Rudy Gobert. Using regression on basketball is so fundamentally flawed and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 For further context, it's also a number that had Kris Humphries over Derrick Rose the year that Rose won MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Aldridge's meeting with LA sounds exactly like what Walsh did with Lebron. They wheeled out a PowerPoint and tried selling him on sponsorship opportunities if he played in LA. Only thing missing was the ******* wheelchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 For context, this is the stat that has Lebron 13th. Behind Jimmy Butler and Rudy Gobert. Using regression on basketball is so fundamentally flawed and stupid. I avoided Statistics when I was in school. I couldn't work with abstraction at all. Truth be told, I probably have a smidge of undiagnosed autism. I don't know if that's causation or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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