Jetsfan80 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yes. That seems excessively pessimistic. Wheeler was the 6th overall pick in 2009, with Matz our 2nd rounder that year. Harvey the 7th overall pick in 2010. Syndergaard 38th overall in 2010. Only with deGrom, a 9th rounder in 2010, did we not use a 1st or 2nd round pick. That's a lot of draft capital, years of development, and a decent sample size for each pitcher to just cast aside, throw up your hands, and say that they won't be worth keeping long-term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 That seems excessively pessimistic. Wheeler was the 6th overall pick in 2009, with Matz our 2nd rounder that year. Harvey the 7th overall pick in 2010. Syndergaard 38th overall in 2010. Only with deGrom, a 9th rounder in 2010, did we not use a 1st or 2nd round pick. That's a lot of draft capital, years of development, and a decent sample size for each pitcher to just cast aside, throw up your hands, and say that they won't be worth keeping long-term. That's hyperbole, 80. I said we should take them out behind the chemical shed and shoot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The farm system has a lot of pitching in it. It's has two every day players that might contribute in 2016 at the earliest, and neither one of them are power hitters. What do you consider Conforto? a ping hitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I like the Segura quotient of this rumor FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Mets have had recent trade talks with the Brewers regarding Aramis Ramirez and Jean Segura. The Mets have been connected to both names before, but it had appeared that a fit wasn't likely. However, it looks like talks may have been rekindled as the Mets' offense continues to sputter. Ramirez would give New York some more sock at third base with David Wright's (back) status up in the air, while Segura would finally offer them a long-term answer at shortstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 First of all, the fact that Dierking fav'ed this is disgusting. Secondly, my scenario was Todd Frazier and the best of the Reds prospects for Harvey, whom is going to arbitration next year, meaning that Fred and Jeffy will probably murder him in his sleep anyway. Jay Bruce is destined to be a Met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The Reds and Brewers will be trading players leaving Cueto out Who would you prefer Ramirez, Bruce, Segurra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The Reds and Brewers will be trading players leaving Cueto out Who would you prefer Ramirez, Bruce, Segurra The Mets can't use Bruce, other than a rental-They are committed to Cuddyer and Granderson. They have Conforto and Nimmo knocking on the door. Ramirez and Segura make sense. The component then is what do they pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The Mets can't use Bruce, other than a rental-They are committed to Cuddyer and Granderson. They have Conforto and Nimmo knocking on the door. Ramirez and Segura make sense. The component then is what do they pay? I do not know what Brewers would be looking for but I assume like everyone young pitching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Local papers are jumping on arbitration-eligible Matt Harvey for golfing with Trump and (since debunked) taking a private plane back from the West Coast. Le Campagna du Shmeara is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I like the Segura quotient of this rumor FOX Sports' Jon Morosi reports that the Mets have had recent trade talks with the Brewers regarding Aramis Ramirez and Jean Segura. The Mets have been connected to both names before, but it had appeared that a fit wasn't likely. However, it looks like talks may have been rekindled as the Mets' offense continues to sputter. Ramirez would give New York some more sock at third base with David Wright's (back) status up in the air, while Segura would finally offer them a long-term answer at shortstop. Hell yes to Segura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Local papers are jumping on arbitration-eligible Matt Harvey for golfing with Trump and (since debunked) taking a private plane back from the West Coast. Le Campagna du Shmeara is on. "Local papers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 "Local papers." Not all of us get our news from The Proust Reader, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Local papers - another name for them is toilet paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Local papers - another name for them is toilet paper The Daily News: Voice of the People. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Tom Shane gets his sports news from Page 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 The Daily News: Voice of the People. Yes we know how respected these papers are- Tom wants to give them Pullitzer prizes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 You dicks. The News and Post are where you go to start a CdS because the beat guys will print whatever you want them to in exchange for $50 and a gift certificate to TGI Fridays in midtown. No one reads the Times' sports section. No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Plus you get to see where Taylor Swift grabbed her coffee yesterday after enjoying all the sports puns. Win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Plus you get to see where Taylor Swift grabbed her coffee yesterday after enjoying all the sports puns. Win/win. It's the everyman's paper of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I remember the Kerry Wood/Mark Pryor Era of dominance. Best 80 games ever. Lasted a hell of a lot longer than Isringhausen, Wilson, and that other guy THO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adb280z Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 David Lennon @DPLennon 5m5 minutes ago #Mets announce Steven Matz has a partial tear of his lat muscle. Got a PRP injection today and won't throw for 3 weeks. This team just cannot catch a break. I still don't know why they let him pitch that 2nd start when they knew he had soreness in his lat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Harvey and Syndergaard for Puig straight up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lith Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I still don't know why they let him pitch that 2nd start when they knew he had soreness in his lat. I agree. We are trying to limit the strain on our young pitchers this season -- so we go to a 6 man rotation. And tehn we send the kid out there after complaining of tightness by his left arm. Some injuries are just bad luck, and some are stupidity. Not sure which one this was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Great win last night. Thor looks like he is really coming into his own, he has been lights out in his last 3 starts. And Duda and Cuddyer going back to back. Never saw that coming after thge way they have swung the bats thos past mmonth. Amazing what a 3 run HR can do for a team. We had a lot of opportunities to extend our lead and couldn't get the big hit with runners in scoring position after the first inning, but a well timed 3 run HR offsets all of that. I am not ready to give up on this team just yet. A rotation of Bart, Harvey, Thor, deGrom and Niese backed by a strong and deep bullpen -- especially with Mejia coming back -- should enough to stay in contention into September. Losing Matz now limits our trade options. Niese is no longer expendable, especially the way he has been pitching the last few weeks. We really need to count on the veteran hitters who have been underperforming to play better in the 2nd half. Duda, Cuddyer, Murphy & Grandy all need to stay healthy and swing better, more consistent bats in the 2nd half. If we can get d"arnaud back and get some production from Lagares and Flores, we can still do something this season.I want to see the Mets actually play a meaningful game at Citi Field in September this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Huge game today. Seal this up today and they'll go into the break having won their last 3 series, against the NL West, with 2 being on the road. Niese is due for a bad outing so I do not feel good about tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 So, back to Cespides for a second. Kind of unforgivable that we trade a first for Cuddyear and miss out on Cespides / Porcello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 So, back to Cespides for a second. Kind of unforgivable that we trade a first for Cuddyear and miss out on Cespides / Porcello Crazy isn't it? It's almost like trading away your farm system for aging vets is probably a really stupid way to go about building a ball club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Down 2 to 0- with our offense not optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Crazy isn't it? It's almost like trading away your farm system for aging vets is probably a really stupid way to go about building a ball club. I don't think Alderson completely understands how historically good his pitching staff could be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Down 2 to 0- with our offense not optimistic Ya gotta believe mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Down 2 to 0- with our offense not optimistic Corbin's slider is living up to the hype. That's for damn sure. About as unhittable a pitch as you'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Down 2 to 0- with our offense not optimistic Aw yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 HARVEY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Perez in middle relief for Arizona is more poetic than I could've written if I tried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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