Warfish Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: If Fitzpatrick beats the Texans and the Bills at least once both games were winnable but he choked we would have made the playoffs too. Was Oakland winable for Geno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: It was a beautiful pass, it should have been caught. Not saying it wasn't. I'm not a Fitz hater. That was a nice pass. It's just rare on a deep ball for him and I don't think he's worth $8mil+. Not to mention I'd still like to see Geno with an NFL offense around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateJetsGuru Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 11 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Not saying it wasn't. I'm not a Fitz hater. That was a nice pass. It's just rare on a deep ball for him and I don't think he's worth $8mil+. Not to mention I'd still like to see Geno with an NFL offense around him. Appears you may get your wish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Fire Bowels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 We weren't winning the Raider game no matter which QB played the majority of the game. It is fun watching the over the top freak out about each QB though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 38 minutes ago, Mike135 said: Not saying it wasn't. I'm not a Fitz hater. That was a nice pass. It's just rare on a deep ball for him and I don't think he's worth $8mil+. Not to mention I'd still like to see Geno with an NFL offense around him. I like Fitz and thought he gave us a great season last year, but I too am leary of giving more than $8-10M. Unfortunately the contracts awarded to QBs like Bradford this year have inflated salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said: I like Fitz and thought he gave us a great season last year, but I too am leary of giving more than $8-10M. Unfortunately the contracts awarded to QBs like what Bradford this year have inflated salaries. Right, so if Fitz is demanding that much money, I say let him walk. Use the cap space to build a solid team around a young QB. Whether it's Geno, Petty or some other draft pick. Basically try to avoid what we did to Geno his first years. Make sure whatever young QB is playing has a solid team/coaching around him. Signing Fitz to big money now does us no good. The schedule next season looks insanely hard. Even if the Jets somehow managed to bring Fitz/Wilk back under the cap, we'd be lucky to get 8 wins. No hard feelings with Fitz. Thanks for the fun year, but just doesn't make sense for Jets to pay him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Geno turned Bruce Jenner into an ugly woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 People, I dont think you understand the point. Any of the 6 losses could have cost us the playoffs, not just the one at the end of the year. So focusing attention on that game is DUMB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: People, I dont think you understand the point. Any of the 6 losses could have cost us the playoffs, not just the one at the end of the year. So focusing attention on that game is DUMB. Absolutely correct. Break down could be Offense 2 losses, Defense 2 and Special teams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: People, I dont think you understand the point. Any of the 6 losses could have cost us the playoffs, not just the one at the end of the year. So focusing attention on that game is DUMB. So you blame a guy who missed all of preseason, coming into the game ICE COLD for losing the game, when the entire team played liked warmed over sh*t?? Okay..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joewilly12 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 3 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Think about it. That Oakland game was there to be won and he blew it in the end. Every game is of equal value in the context of playoffs. Fitzpatrick did lose more games, but he also got us in position to be there in the first place. If Geno successfully completes the comeback in Oakland, we're going to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 joewilly12 vs. UnitedWhofan this is going to be like a frontal lobotomy for the entire forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: joewilly12 vs. UnitedWhofan this is going to be like a frontal lobotomy for the entire forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Ok for those of you who were waiting for it, here is me giving a compliment to Geno. He is a much better backup than starter. He wasn't a god awful trainwreck coming in as a reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Can I nominate this thread as the worst thread of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 7 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Think about it. That Oakland game was there to be won and he blew it in the end. Every game is of equal value in the context of playoffs. Fitzpatrick did lose more games, but he also got us in position to be there in the first place. If Geno successfully completes the comeback in Oakland, we're going to the playoffs. I despise Geno so much I am going to agree with this statement. ("Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive.") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 8 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not really. The reason I say this is because Jets fans have compartmentalized the whole season into one game and have judged years based on that game. I'm just doing the same thing to show how stupid they are. Fitzpatrick had a very good season and should be respected more. Didn't say paid, but respected, no matter what happened in the final game. He did not actually. Brandon, Decker and especially Gailey had good seasons, as they covered up what was exceedingly average to bad QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainejet Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 58 minutes ago, johnnysd said: He did not actually. Brandon, Decker and especially Gailey had good seasons, as they covered up what was exceedingly average to bad QB play. Well, this turn of events should suit you just fine, SD....... You get to see Geno Smith start ( because if they lose Fitz, I can't imagine the Jets finding a better option for 2016), the guy you so very obviously believe in and prefer. And everyone else gets to see him start again and they get to make a decision on him once and for all. It's not the attractive scenario for most Jets fans as they think Geno sucks, but once and for all the Geno arguments will be put to bed. He will either put up or he'll have to shut up once and or all, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 7 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: People, I dont think you understand the point. Any of the 6 losses could have cost us the playoffs, not just the one at the end of the year. So focusing attention on that game is DUMB. That's what Jets fans do bro. Simplify everything down into one bullet point to not tax our already stressed out brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 19 hours ago, Beerfish said: Geno caused the Hindenburg crash as well. "Geno, we said no SMOKING" "You ain't going to do anything about it!" BOOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 18 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: People, I dont think you understand the point. Any of the 6 losses could have cost us the playoffs, not just the one at the end of the year. So focusing attention on that game is DUMB. Not really. The first five losses played an important role but only Week 17 was clearly understood to have definitive do-or-die playoff implications. They knew before kickoff the whole season was riding on that one game. That's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 18 hours ago, Bocajetfan said: Absolutely correct. Break down could be Offense 2 losses, Defense 2 and Special teams 2 Just now, jetrider said: Not really. The first five losses played an important role but only Week 17 was clearly understood to have definitive do-or-die playoff implications. They knew before kickoff the whole season was riding on that one game. That's the difference. Jetrider, the only reason Week 17 was do or die was because of those previous 5 losses. If they had one any of those other games, Week 17 means nothing, Jets were 5-5 and had to win out to make the playoffs. That is not a reasonable expectation to have, at least it wasn't at the time.. The reason Jets fans are angry is because they got teased into believing (which happens to the Jets all the time and you would think fans would not commit suicide over it by now) and that they lost to Rex Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Jetrider, the only reason Week 17 was do or die was because of those previous 5 losses. If they had one any of those other games, Week 17 means nothing, Jets were 5-5 and had to win out to make the playoffs. That is not a reasonable expectation to have, at least it wasn't at the time.. The reason Jets fans are angry is because they got teased into believing (which happens to the Jets all the time and you would think fans would not commit suicide over it by now) and that they lost to Rex Ryan. Yeah, but the reality is Week 17 ended up being the most important, therefore it gets the most attention. There are a million and one imaginary scenarios where Week 17 could've meant nothing. But the truth is it meant everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just now, jetrider said: Yeah, but the reality is Week 17 ended up being the most important, therefore it gets the most attention. There are a million and one imaginary scenarios where Week 17 could've meant nothing. But the truth is it meant everything. Correct, but wrongly IMO. I understand the point, but to completely eliminate the outcome of the 16 prior games for one game seems to go against team sports. If they believe that then make it a 1 game season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Correct, but wrongly IMO. I understand the point, but to completely eliminate the outcome of the 16 prior games for one game seems to go against team sports. If they believe that then make it a 1 game season Winners step up when the team needs them, front running phonies are good at padding their stats against soft teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Correct, but wrongly IMO. I understand the point, but to completely eliminate the outcome of the 16 prior games for one game seems to go against team sports. If they believe that then make it a 1 game season Yes. I was actually going to say that. When Jets regained control of their playoff destiny after Week 16 it became a one game season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Just now, jetrider said: Yes. I was actually going to say that. When Jets regained control of their playoff destiny after Week 16 it became a one game season. Very well, then just make it an NCAA tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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