Tony The Wiz Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just watched Carson Wentz Pro Day. Was Excellent and only one bad ball due to his first throw with water squirted on it. He reminds me of a better athletic Carson Palmer. Him and Goff are running neck and neck in my book. Goff has much more tape and Wentz is more athletic and a better arm. Browns have to pick him if they are smart but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Brandt said it was one of the best pro days he has ever seen from a QB. Cleveland should take him if they have a brain. If not some team will trade up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 If that's the case trade up and take him. This team's going nowhere without a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 no way we get him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: If that's the case trade up and take him. This team's going nowhere without a franchise QB. True but the Jets could not trade up that many spots. You would have to give the bank for this. But the Jets could get Paxton Lynch who is not that far from Wentz. Lynch needs to be coached up but he has everything in size, athleticism, arm, and toughness but he has something these other QBS don't have is a chip on his shoulder. Only Memphis gave him a scholarship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 How come Wentz was never picked up by the bigger college programs if he's THAT HANDS DOWN talented? not knocking the guy, serious legit inquiry? Considering all the shenanigans these big programs go through to get top talent, how'd he slip to SDSU (I know he's legacy there) and never upgraded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: How come Wentz was never picked up by the bigger college programs if he's THAT HANDS DOWN talented? not knocking the guy, serious legit inquiry? Considering all the shenanigans these big programs go through to get top talent, how'd he slip to SDSU (I know he's legacy there) and never upgraded? He said he was a three sport player and that in high school he was a pitcher and had shoulder tendinitis so he took a year off at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 30 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Brandt said it was one of the best pro days he has ever seen from a QB. Cleveland should take him if they have a brain. If not some team will trade up for him. You gotta ask yourself why was Jackson the only HC there? Either hes going later OR the Entire NFL thinks hes going to Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 8 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: How come Wentz was never picked up by the bigger college programs if he's THAT HANDS DOWN talented? not knocking the guy, serious legit inquiry? Considering all the shenanigans these big programs go through to get top talent, how'd he slip to SDSU (I know he's legacy there) and never upgraded? He was a Baseball player. He didnt even start playing QB till like his Senior year in HS because I think he got injured playing Baseball. He was a shrimp and had an insane growth spurt in High School. I think he just wasnt on anyone radar because he developed so late and didnt really play a ton of High School Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Jacksonville has the the cap space, and the need for Mo Wilk, is Mo Wilk, and 20 enough to move up top 5? Getting to 1 from there would be easy as Tennessee wants the Ramsey kid, but would prefer not to take him at 1. Dropping to 5 ensures him still as Wentz, and Goff would go 1, 2. Then Tunsil, and either Bosa, or Jack Cowboys preference, and then Titans get Ramsey at 5, and pick up something extra for the future via picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said: He said he was a three sport player and that in high school he was a itches and had shoulder tendinitis so he took a year off at QB. Thank you kind Sir for that answer. "What's an "itches" is that Dakotan for B1tches? PS - pitcher. got it. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: He was a Baseball player. He didnt even start playing QB till like his Senior year in HS because I think he got injured playing Baseball. He was a shrimp and had an insane growth spurt in High School. I think he just wasnt on anyone radar because he developed so late and didnt really play a ton of High School Football. Ah. makes even more sense. thanks. LONG LIVE PHIFE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 7 minutes ago, Shockwave said: You gotta ask yourself why was Jackson the only HC there? Either hes going later OR the Entire NFL thinks hes going to Cleveland. Apparently a bunch of teams could not get to the work out do to snow storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I can see San Diego or Dallas getting in the mix as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 39 minutes ago, Tony The Wiz said: True but the Jets could not trade up that many spots. You would have to give the bank for this. But the Jets could get Paxton Lynch who is not that far from Wentz. Lynch needs to be coached up but he has everything in size, athleticism, arm, and toughness but he has something these other QBS don't have is a chip on his shoulder. Only Memphis gave him a scholarship. Couldn't you say the exact same thing about Petty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: Couldn't you say the exact same thing about Petty? Yup. and THAT'S WHY you draft a QB every year until you HIT on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 If Wentz is the guy, send 3 1sts to clevland and get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 43 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Jacksonville has the the cap space, and the need for Mo Wilk, is Mo Wilk, and 20 enough to move up top 5? Getting to 1 from there would be easy as Tennessee wants the Ramsey kid, but would prefer not to take him at 1. Dropping to 5 ensures him still as Wentz, and Goff would go 1, 2. Then Tunsil, and either Bosa, or Jack Cowboys preference, and then Titans get Ramsey at 5, and pick up something extra for the future via picks. EDIT: can they afford both Malik and Wilk on that line? Not sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Just now, Dcat said: can they afford both Vernon and Wilk on that line? Not sure about that. cough, Giants. Cough, cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: If Wentz is the guy, send 3 1sts to clevland and get it done. Silly rabbit, didn't you LEARN ANYTHING from the Redskins-Rams RG3 trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 31 minutes ago, jetsons said: I can see San Diego or Dallas getting in the mix as well. SD just extended Rivers, so I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: cough, Giants. Cough, cough I meant Malik and Wilk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Tony The Wiz said: Just watched Carson Wentz Pro Day. Was Excellent and only one bad ball due to his first throw with water squirted on it. He reminds me of a better athletic Carson Palmer. Him and Goff are running neck and neck in my book. Goff has much more tape and Wentz is more athletic and a better arm. Browns have to pick him if they are smart but who knows. Is it because they share the same first name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 49 minutes ago, chirorob said: SD just extended Rivers, so I don't think so. Why not, Rivers is 34yrs old??? have him sit on the bench for 2-3 then take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, jetsons said: Why not, Rivers is 34yrs old??? have him sit on the bench for 2-3 then take over. While I still like the idea of letting a rookie wait and learn, not too many teams are drafting a QB in the top 4, and then letting him sit for 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony The Wiz Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 37 minutes ago, JiF said: Is it because they share the same first name? No but if you watch college football like I have you see two QBS who are around 6:5 and are an accurate passer. They throw a nice ball and are smart. The difference is Carson Palmer at USC wasn't athletic and rarely ran for yards where Wentz could take off like a Flacco and make some good yardage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Wentz = Dalton when Dalton is playing really well not the stinky playoff Dalton. Goff = Drew Brees light Lynch = Flacco Come at me bros! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Brandt said it was one of the best pro days he has ever seen from a QB. Cleveland should take him if they have a brain. If not some team will trade up for him. They said the same thing about Jamarcus Russell, and look what happened there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, King P said: They said the same thing about Jamarcus Russell, and look what happened there lol Brandt actually said the best one he had ever seen was Bradford. And as we know pro days can have the opposite affect as well. Bridgewater couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at his pro day and looks to be fairy promising for Minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Jacksonville has the the cap space, and the need for Mo Wilk, is Mo Wilk, and 20 enough to move up top 5? Getting to 1 from there would be easy as Tennessee wants the Ramsey kid, but would prefer not to take him at 1. Dropping to 5 ensures him still as Wentz, and Goff would go 1, 2. Then Tunsil, and either Bosa, or Jack Cowboys preference, and then Titans get Ramsey at 5, and pick up something extra for the future via picks. We have no QB. I'd be calling Tennessee right now after this pro day...but that's me. He's not getting passed 2. I don't know what Mac feels though. I've believed in this kid since last year so I admit that I have a bit of a bias. I say go get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: How come Wentz was never picked up by the bigger college programs if he's THAT HANDS DOWN talented? not knocking the guy, serious legit inquiry? Considering all the shenanigans these big programs go through to get top talent, how'd he slip to SDSU (I know he's legacy there) and never upgraded? Ben Roethlisberger went to Miami Ohio. Thats not a big college program, yet Roethlisberger is arguably the best QB drafted the past 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 19 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Ben Roethlisberger went to Miami Ohio. Thats not a big college program, yet Roethlisberger is arguably the best QB drafted the past 15 years. Don't really think it's arguable at all. He is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 17 minutes ago, section314 said: Don't really think it's arguable at all. He is. The Eli or Aaron Rodgers or Cam or Luck fans certainly can argue ... But Big Ben is def one tough as nails SOB ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: If Wentz is the guy, send 3 1sts to clevland and get it done. Thats going to be the price tag. If the Browns are truly Moneyball guys they would absolutely take that deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian101193 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Gas2No99 said: Silly rabbit, didn't you LEARN ANYTHING from the Redskins-Rams RG3 trade? You could argue it would have worked out though, if not for the injury. And these guys aren't the same style of "running, duel threat" QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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