Jetfan13 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Tom Brady was just granted a little more time in the pocket for his last Hail Mary in getting his four-game suspension overturned, Adam Kurkjian of the Boston Herald reports. His new attorney, Ted Olson, was granted his request today for a 14-day extension for the NFLPA to formally file a motion for a rehearing by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The deadline for that request is now May 23. If the motion passes, the NFLPA will have another shot at having Brady's four-game suspension by the NFL for the quarterback's involvement in Deflategate overturned. Brady's only other option would be to take the case to the Supreme Court. Olson filed the request on Friday and the NFL filed one yesterday for the motion to be denied. However, the court ruled today in favor of Brady and the NFLPA, marking a small win in Olson's first battle in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 This has become nothing more than a waste of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no psls Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Enough of this bullsh*t already !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: This has become nothing more than a waste of resources. And all to prove that a Crook and a Liar is not what he is . When it's all said and done, what should happen to This Player is what happened to Barry bonds, but it won't . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 This thing is never going to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfed Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Jetfan13 said: Tom Brady was just granted a little more time in the pocket for his last Hail Mary in getting his four-game suspension overturned, Adam Kurkjian of the Boston Herald reports. His new attorney, Ted Olson, was granted his request today for a 14-day extension for the NFLPA to formally file a motion for a rehearing by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The deadline for that request is now May 23. If the motion passes, the NFLPA will have another shot at having Brady's four-game suspension by the NFL for the quarterback's involvement in Deflategate overturned. Brady's only other option would be to take the case to the Supreme Court. Olson filed the request on Friday and the NFL filed one yesterday for the motion to be denied. However, the court ruled today in favor of Brady and the NFLPA, marking a small win in Olson's first battle in this case. A grave injustice will have been done if the world can't hear the opinion of the Supreme Court on this crucial matter. Seriously, and I am speaking to no one in particular here, can we let this ******* topic die already? Who gives a sh*t? Good Lord, how long can we collectively focus on this. I think he's now had more court time than Aaron Hernandez, who is technically a serial killer by definition if convicted for the charges for which he is currently being tried. To play Devil's advocate with myself, I guess 4 games is a quarter of a season, and mr Brady ain't getting any younger. That said, sweet merciful crap, who cares at this point? And someone should be disbarred for even mentioning having the Supreme Court weigh in on this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, Cornfed said: A grave injustice will have been done if the world can't hear the opinion of the Supreme Court on this crucial matter. Seriously, and I am speaking to no one in particular here, can we let this ******* topic die already? Who gives a sh*t? Good Lord, how long can we collectively focus on this. I think he's now had more court time than Aaron Hernandez, who is technically a serial killer by definition if convicted for the charges for which he is currently being tried. To play Devil's advocate with myself, I guess 4 games is a quarter of a season, and mr Brady ain't getting any younger. That said, sweet merciful crap, who cares at this point? And someone should be disbarred for even mentioning having the Supreme Court weigh in on this nonsense. Being you replied I am guessing you care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Look, compromise is obviously needed here. Instead of 4 game suspension, make it 4 games with no Offensive Line and the Roughing the Passer penalty suspended. Fair, balanced, entertaining for all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 At this point I have to imagine it's simply a matter of Brady desperately trying to get this penalty pushed back over and over again until he decides to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfed Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 29 minutes ago, Jetfan13 said: Being you replied I am guessing you care. Oh, look at you. You got me there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Why is the NFL not calling the equipment guys and Tom Brady and anyone else in this affair to testify under oath, with penalty of perjury since it is the desire to drag the thing through the courts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 When the court reinstated brady's* suspension, all of boston* collectively yelled and screamed that enough is enough and that this should have been put to bed. Now, all of boston* is collectively all for furthering this along. God, I hate pats* fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornfed Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 33 minutes ago, Jetfan13 said: Being you replied I am guessing you care. 3 minutes ago, Cornfed said: Oh, look at you. You got me there! To clarify, my rant was not directed at you for posting this message. Great post, good sir. Rather, I was trying to express frustration that this is still "a thing" at all. Suspend him. Or don't suspend him. It's obvious they cheated. I personally think most teams are constantly trying to get an edge and that this whole thing is overblown. But you know what, after like 2 years, I'll concede anything. Suspend, don't suspend, fine, whatevs (as the kids say). I just think it's insane that someone is pondering taking this to the supreme court when anyone casually following the Pats and this situation probably was able to form an opinion in like 30 seconds. How can this take so long and be so involved? I can rant on this all day, and say the same thing in 1000 different ways. That will help no one and, to your astute point, have me contribute to continuing the global conversation about which I'm ranting (in a bit of delicious irony). As John Goodman's character would say to Lebowski, "**** it, dude. Let's go bowling." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 TB is a cheater but he is no quitter! Keep the embarrassment for you and your team alive with this rediculous attempt at exoneration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Jetfan13 said: Tom Brady was just granted a little more time in the pocket for his last Hail Mary in getting his four-game suspension overturned, Adam Kurkjian of the Boston Herald reports. His new attorney, Ted Olson, was granted his request today for a 14-day extension for the NFLPA to formally file a motion for a rehearing by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. The deadline for that request is now May 23. If the motion passes, the NFLPA will have another shot at having Brady's four-game suspension by the NFL for the quarterback's involvement in Deflategate overturned. Brady's only other option would be to take the case to the Supreme Court. Olson filed the request on Friday and the NFL filed one yesterday for the motion to be denied. However, the court ruled today in favor of Brady and the NFLPA, marking a small win in Olson's first battle in this case. The two sides seem to fighting different battles. For his side Brady is going the 'legal' route and is trying to get the court to determine his actual guilt or innocence by law, whereas the NFL is arguing that the commissioner has the right to suspend players for "the integrity of the game". The NFL suspension is based more on Brady's attitude toward cooperation with the league's investigation and when he smashed his cell phone that made him look very uncooperative hence the suspension. I think at some point Brady is going to serve a four game suspension that I think he deserves whether or not he had anything to do with Deflategate. He snubbed the commish and you don't do that no matter how big a star you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 38 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Look, compromise is obviously needed here. Instead of 4 game suspension, make it 4 games with no Offensive Line and the Roughing the Passer penalty suspended. Fair, balanced, entertaining for all! No need for compromise. This is a very long shot for Brady. The Supreme court has requests for about 7,000 cases a year, hears about 50 of them. This certainly isn't a vital case for the interpretation of a constitutional matter. Unless BS political union/management issues get involved in the minds of the "justices" Turn out the lights Edit: I know most of what you said was humor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 It's pretty obvious he's going to push this as far back as he can. He's got great lawyers and he just hired Olson and you never know he could upend the NFL again. It's just the kind of guy he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 It's pretty obvious he's going to push this as far back as he can. He's got great lawyers and he just hired Olson and you never know he could upend the NFL again. It's just the kind of guy he is. Actually he didn't hire Olson, the NFLPA did. You gotta remember that the whole purpose behind this is to overturn the decision which gave total control back to the commissioner as indicated in the new CBA. Besides, this is only a 14 day delay to allow Olson time to file the new motion. This in no way shows a change in decision or weather or not the appeal has been issued for the entire circuit court of appeal. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Cornfed said: A grave injustice will have been done if the world can't hear the opinion of the Supreme Court on this crucial matter. Seriously, and I am speaking to no one in particular here, can we let this ******* topic die already? Who gives a sh*t? Good Lord, how long can we collectively focus on this. I think he's now had more court time than Aaron Hernandez, who is technically a serial killer by definition if convicted for the charges for which he is currently being tried. To play Devil's advocate with myself, I guess 4 games is a quarter of a season, and mr Brady ain't getting any younger. That said, sweet merciful crap, who cares at this point? And someone should be disbarred for even mentioning having the Supreme Court weigh in on this nonsense. It is bigger than 4 games because this will forever tarnish Brady's legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, BaumerJet said: Actually he didn't hire Olson, the NFLPA did. You gotta remember that the whole purpose behind this is to overturn the decision which gave total control back to the commissioner as indicated in the new CBA. Besides, this is only a 14 day delay to allow Olson time to file the new motion. This in no way shows a change in decision or weather or not the appeal has been issued for the entire circuit court of appeal. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk I'm not an expert but I think the bottom line is to convince the appeals court to accept their plea for a new hearing. A lot of experts think they the court won't go any further with this. And Olson of course is connected and might be able to help them esp if they want to appeal to the Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I'm not an expert but I think the bottom line is to convince the appeals court to accept their plea for a new hearing. A lot of experts think they the court won't go any further with this. And Olson of course is connected and might be able to help them esp if they want to appeal to the Supreme Court. They will never file with the US Supreme Court. Should the court take this case under review, Brady would still have to take the 4 game suspension. The US Supreme Court could only judge the CONSTITUTIONAL ramifications of the current CBA in reference to the final decision authority given to the commissioner. Not DEFLATEGATE, just the legal aspect of power as indicated in the current CBA. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 This is indicative of nothing. Courts regularly grant continuances as a matter of course. Better to give a two week continuance than offer up a possible appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 If Brady loses he can always retire rather than face a suspension. Hey Tom, you're such a man of principle. Yeah, right.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77DRAFT Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 If Brady can drag this out another year, who knows maybe he retires next year and doesn't want to serve the suspension, retirement is the answer Brady, - and Cheating Tom - you've got nothing left to prove, you can win when you cheat, you lose when you don't. Spygate and Deflategate are your legacy, get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rangers9 said: If Brady loses he can always retire rather than face a suspension. Hey Tom, you're such a man of principle. Yeah, right.? If he retires, only those of us who are paying attention will know that he retired to stave off the suspension. I want him to play through the suspension and forever have the suspension for cheating attached to his legacy. It will never be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Look if Brady hadn't fought this so vigorously and the union and Tom hadn't challenged Roger he would have gotten a game or two and his team wouldn't have lost a 1st round pick. They probably would have lost the 4th rounder which is really no big deal. But they wouldn't know how to tell the truth if it hit them right in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Maxman said: It is bigger than 4 games because this will forever tarnish Brady's legacy. And somehow bradys legacy is something the courts should give 2 sh*ts about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: If he retires, only those of us who are paying attention will know that he retired to stave off the suspension. I want him to play through the suspension and forever have the suspension for cheating attached to his legacy. It will never be forgotten. It won't be forgotten either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 13 minutes ago, neckdemon said: It won't be forgotten either way of course it will, it will take a while but people will forget- they always do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 1 hour ago, flgreen said: No need for compromise. This is a very long shot for Brady. The Supreme court has requests for about 7,000 cases a year, hears about 50 of them. This certainly isn't a vital case for the interpretation of a constitutional matter. Unless BS political union/management issues get involved in the minds of the "justices" Turn out the lights Edit: I know most of what you said was humor Thank god you added the edit lol! I was like wtf I thought it was funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Snell41 said: Thank god you added the edit lol! I was like wtf I thought it was funny! LOL Actually what happened was I read the first line in your post, and thought BS, NO Compromise!. Rushed off an made the post. Then read the rest of your post, and thought "OH crap". LOL Bad choice on my part. i thought it was funny to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 If Brady can drag this out another year, who knows maybe he retires next year and doesn't want to serve the suspension, retirement is the answer Brady, - and Cheating Tom - you've got nothing left to prove, you can win when you cheat, you lose when you don't. Spygate and Deflategate are your legacy, get used to it. (1) This can not drag out for a decision by the entire US 2nd Court of Appeals and will be resolved by law in August of this year (2016.) (2) Even by the remote chance he seeks a US Supreme Court decision, he would have to still take the suspension because the only issue would be to see if the power of the Commissioner is in any way Unconstitutional, based on the writing of the current CBA. Sent from my LG-V410 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 I don't care about Brady's legacy. The bottom line is he's a great Qb. That will supersede Deflategate which was an embarrassment to the NFL. Him and his team have brought down the league a few notches with this and other shenanigans over the years. As for Brady the person I don't like the guy but character wise other than lying through his teeth about this and other NEP tricks he's ok. No legal issues etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 47 minutes ago, neckdemon said: It won't be forgotten either way Not by us, but our kids, and their kids, and NFL fans who were born in the last 5 years; they won't have any indication of the suspension if he retires without serving it. It'll go down as a mere footnote. However, if he serves it and continues to play, then even 100 years from now, he'll be the only player in Canton to be suspended for literally cheating. It won't be a footnote, it'll be a scar. That, will forever be a part of his legacy, and will unquestionably never be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 NFL knows how to stay relevant during the off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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