EM31 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I can deal with this ^^^^^^. That soggy bread comment, watch who you're talking about. Keep it football and sh*t talking with me. Keep that soggy bread gay sh*t for whoever is comfortable with you referring to them in that manner. I dont like it, dont do it again. Stop behaving like a whiny little girl one minute and an internet tough guy the next minute. It makes you look unhinged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 minute ago, EM31 said: Stop behaving like a whiny little girl one minute and an internet tough guy the next minute. It makes you look unhinged. Only internet tough guys say the sh*t you said, because they're behind a keyboard. So I'll tell it to you again, watch how you refer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 This thread really took a turn for the worse come on guys its really sickening and disheartening to come here to discuss football with fellow Jets fans and realize you walked in on a pissing match and members bring bullsh*t nonsense out to justify their argument. Grow the **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: This thread really took a turn for the worse come on guys its really sickening and disheartening to come here to discuss football with fellow Jets fans and realize you walked in on a pissing match and members bring bullsh*t nonsense out to justify their argument. Grow the **** up. I agree with this 100% Please do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Only internet tough guys say the sh*t you said, because they're behind a keyboard. So I'll tell it to you again, watch how you refer to me. Whatever makes you feel tough I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just now, EM31 said: Whatever makes you feel tough I suppose. The internet antagonizing proves my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 2 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: The internet antagonizing proves my point. Are you and your posse done with your African Bee impression or do you feel the need to carry on collectively venting? The display of communal hand-wringing is as repetitive as it is disingenuous at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 12 minutes ago, EM31 said: I agree with this 100% Please do. I meant you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I meant you. LOL.... Maybe not even three things I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Schefter also said a Mo deal wasn't going to get done. Nice try though. When and where did schefter say this? He was the one who broke the news of the deal, wrong as usual carlita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, cant wait said: When and where did schefter say this? He was the one who broke the news of the deal, wrong as usual carlita Eat me cock-mongrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 51 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Eat me cock-mongrel. This was posted early July 14, if you actually pay attention you would have known the jets offer didn't go thru until 3:15 AM July 15. And that would fall under the "unlikely change" umbrella. but despite your desperate attempts, you couldn't be more uninformed, as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackenberg - Banned Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 if lucky, Gino will be a journey man back up. if not,he's gone in a couple years like the nfl average of no names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 20 minutes ago, cant wait said: This was posted early July 14, if you actually pay attention you would have known the jets offer didn't go thru until 3:15 AM July 15. And that would fall under the "unlikely change" umbrella. but despite your desperate attempts, you couldn't be more uninformed, as usual Doesn't matter when he said it. He did. That means he was wrong. Him putting in a modifier doesn't make it any less wrong. He didn't see it coming and no one else did either. So, yes, Schefter gets it wrong sometimes. You get it wrong here. Admit it and move on. Or stay obsessed with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Doesn't matter when he said it. He did. That means he was wrong. Him putting in a modifier doesn't make it any less wrong. He didn't see it coming and no one else did either. So, yes, Schefter gets it wrong sometimes. You get it wrong here. Admit it and move on. Or stay obsessed with me. So schefter was not correct in saying Wilkerson didn't have an offer at the time, when there wasn't one? LOL okay sweetheart and actually if you pay attention (not likely) schefter broke the Wilk story on live TV around 11 AM 7/15. But by all means, continue your desperate and pathetic attempt to undermine his credibility so you can feel better about your precious wittle fitzy. got it, tiger beat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Is Geno a leader? Let's look at the evidence. He once called a media member a d--khead when asked for an interview. Source: NY Daily News He was once punched in the face by a defender, whom he stiffed for 600$. Revis and others say they are disspointed with on both players. Source: NY Daily News. He missed team meetings in SD to go to a movie (before they got blown out and he was benched). Source: NY Daily News. He hurled obscenities at a Jets fan after the Lions' loss. Source: NY Daily News. He recorded his very own buttfumble. Source: Well, look for yourself. Got caught Facetiming his junk to a nursing student. Source: NY Daily News. Kicked off a Virgin America flight for not hanging up his cell phone. Source: NY Daily News. He threw a hissy fit in NYC when he didn't get drafted in the first round and threatened to leave before round 2. Source: NFL.com Scouts report he is not a leader. Source: Yahoo Sports He reportedly spent most of his time in pre-draft visits texting on his phone. Source: NY Daily News He big timed the Senior Bowl, believing he was too good for the event. Source: Hail WV. He recorded not one but two safeties in the snowy Pinstripe Bowl, adding to the idea that he plays poorly in inclement weather. Source: SB Nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Hackenberg said: if lucky, Gino will be a journey man back up. if not,he's gone in a couple years like the nfl average of no names. Who is Gino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Is Geno a leader? Let's look at the evidence. He once called a media member a d--khead when asked for an interview. Source: NY Daily News He was once punched in the face by a defender, whom he stiffed for 600$. Revis and others say they are disspointed with on both players. Source: NY Daily News. He missed team meetings in SD to go to a movie (before they got blown out and he was benched). Source: NY Daily News. He hurled obscenities at a Jets fan after the Lions' loss. Source: NY Daily News. He recorded his very own buttfumble. Source: Well, look for yourself. Got caught Facetiming his junk to a nursing student. Source: NY Daily News. Kicked off a Virgin America flight for not hanging up his cell phone. Source: NY Daily News. He threw a hissy fit in NYC when he didn't get drafted in the first round and threatened to leave before round 2. Source: NFL.com Scouts report he is not a leader. Source: Yahoo Sports He reportedly spent most of his time in pre-draft visits texting on his phone. Source: NY Daily News He big timed the Senior Bowl, believing he was too good for the event. Source: Hail WV. He recorded not one but two safeties in the snowy Pinstripe Bowl, adding to the idea that he plays poorly in inclement weather. Source: SB Nation. He shoved an old man as well. Geno is a scumbag. Forgot to say: G. Smith trying to push over Coach W Burnham at half was the most classless thing I've seen. Esp. from a "leader" #GrowUp 6:29 PM - 24 Nov 2012 http://lostlettermen.com/cyclones-lb-geno-smith-shoved-our-dc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Is Geno a leader? Let's look at the evidence. He once called a media member a d--khead when asked for an interview. Source: NY Daily News He was once punched in the face by a defender, whom he stiffed for 600$. Revis and others say they are disspointed with on both players. Source: NY Daily News. He missed team meetings in SD to go to a movie (before they got blown out and he was benched). Source: NY Daily News. He hurled obscenities at a Jets fan after the Lions' loss. Source: NY Daily News. He recorded his very own buttfumble. Source: Well, look for yourself. Got caught Facetiming his junk to a nursing student. Source: NY Daily News. Kicked off a Virgin America flight for not hanging up his cell phone. Source: NY Daily News. He threw a hissy fit in NYC when he didn't get drafted in the first round and threatened to leave before round 2. Source: NFL.com Scouts report he is not a leader. Source: Yahoo Sports He reportedly spent most of his time in pre-draft visits texting on his phone. Source: NY Daily News He big timed the Senior Bowl, believing he was too good for the event. Source: Hail WV. He recorded not one but two safeties in the snowy Pinstripe Bowl, adding to the idea that he plays poorly in inclement weather. Source: SB Nation. Alright but other than all this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Is Geno a leader? Let's look at the evidence. He once called a media member a d--khead when asked for an interview. Source: NY Daily News He was once punched in the face by a defender, whom he stiffed for 600$. Revis and others say they are disspointed with on both players. Source: NY Daily News. He missed team meetings in SD to go to a movie (before they got blown out and he was benched). Source: NY Daily News. He hurled obscenities at a Jets fan after the Lions' loss. Source: NY Daily News. He recorded his very own buttfumble. Source: Well, look for yourself. Got caught Facetiming his junk to a nursing student. Source: NY Daily News. Kicked off a Virgin America flight for not hanging up his cell phone. Source: NY Daily News. He threw a hissy fit in NYC when he didn't get drafted in the first round and threatened to leave before round 2. Source: NFL.com Scouts report he is not a leader. Source: Yahoo Sports He reportedly spent most of his time in pre-draft visits texting on his phone. Source: NY Daily News He big timed the Senior Bowl, believing he was too good for the event. Source: Hail WV. He recorded not one but two safeties in the snowy Pinstripe Bowl, adding to the idea that he plays poorly in inclement weather. Source: SB Nation. You are nitpicking and need to be more tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Why has Ryan Fitzpatrick been with 6 teams in 11 years is that a leader? Why is it no team commits to Ryan Fitzpatrick? Why is he a journeyman? Why has he never made the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Is Geno a leader? Let's look at the evidence. He once called a media member a d--khead when asked for an interview. Source: NY Daily News He was once punched in the face by a defender, whom he stiffed for 600$. Revis and others say they are disspointed with on both players. Source: NY Daily News. He missed team meetings in SD to go to a movie (before they got blown out and he was benched). Source: NY Daily News. He hurled obscenities at a Jets fan after the Lions' loss. Source: NY Daily News. He recorded his very own buttfumble. Source: Well, look for yourself. Got caught Facetiming his junk to a nursing student. Source: NY Daily News. Kicked off a Virgin America flight for not hanging up his cell phone. Source: NY Daily News. He threw a hissy fit in NYC when he didn't get drafted in the first round and threatened to leave before round 2. Source: NFL.com Scouts report he is not a leader. Source: Yahoo Sports He reportedly spent most of his time in pre-draft visits texting on his phone. Source: NY Daily News He big timed the Senior Bowl, believing he was too good for the event. Source: Hail WV. He recorded not one but two safeties in the snowy Pinstripe Bowl, adding to the idea that he plays poorly in inclement weather. Source: SB Nation. Perfectly stated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Just now, Flushing Roots said: You are nitpicking and need to be more tolerant. That's true. He missed everything that Geno has done just this past summer. Then again, if it doesn't make him look like a scumbag then it doesn't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: That's true. He missed everything that Geno has done just this past summer. Then again, if it doesn't make him look like a scumbag then it doesn't count. You know I was kidding. Zebra doesn't change it's stripes. He did play catch with his buddies this summer. I'll give you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, Flushing Roots said: You know I was kidding. Zebra doesn't change it's stripes. He did play catch with his buddies this summer. I'll give you that. Better than holding out for crazy money and ignoring your so called teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Better than holding out for crazy money and ignoring your so called teammates. Hey I'm no fan of that either. At this point I'd like to see the Jet's take their offer off the table. BS stringing everyone along like this. Especially when your only other option is the couch playing with the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 On July 20, 2016 at 2:27 PM, EM31 said: Harvin was a Superbowl MVP the year we got him. He was a game changer when we had him. A head case? Sure. But a game changer nonetheless. Percy Harvin was not nothing just because it suits Geno lovers arguments to portray him that way. Decker started 15 games both years. Why do you people insist on making things up? You have no idea what you're talking about. And get out of here with your bullsh*t start stats. He was pulled in the second half of the GB game (that counted as a start). He played a series in the Bears game (that counts as a start). The fact of the matter is that he hurt his hammy before the season started and didn't recover until the end of the season. He forced himself to play with a hamstring injury and was not himself for most the year. Decker did caution he won’t make the same mistake as he did last year, when he rushed back following a hamstring injury. “I’m going to be smart about it this time around,” he said. http://nypost.com/2015/09/22/brandon-marshall-may-be-unlocking-the-star-in-eric-decker/ I guess you know more about Eric Decker's hamstring than Eric Decker. And Harvin was an explosive player, but he wasn't a great WR. He had zero 1,000 yard seasons and 4,000 career receiving yards. Marshall is a GREAT WR and is playing his way into the HOF. You're a fool if you think Harvin was even close to the WR that Marshall is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Flushing Roots said: You know I was kidding. Zebra doesn't change it's stripes. He did play catch with his buddies this summer. I'll give you that. Geno went to Decker's function in support, told the Media that he was there in support of his teammate and wouldn't be fielding questions regarding the Jets drafting Hackenberg. The media proceeds to report that Geno refused to be interviewed and didn't "exude confidence" when asked about Hackenberg. Reports like that is probably why Geno called them d kheads. I literally watched a particular media guy do this and I called him out on it on his twitter account. Many Jets fans concern themselves more about how bad the story can make Geno look then the credibility of the source. Perfect example, Jets fans linking a story about Geno being kicked off a flight and escorted by police (police themselves stated that it wasnt true) and take it as truth given that it supports the narrative, then turn around and argue amongst themselves about how the media got it "completely wrong" talking about all of the reports on how the Jets werent anywhere near signing Mo Wilkerson. Another example, Media blew up the situation about $600. Geno said that he didnt owe IK anything and that the situation boiled over based on something else. Days later after the Bills picked up IK and he publically apologized, a media person asked IK "if the situation stemmed from $600" and IK declined to comment. However, the media continued to feed the $600 story and every Jets fan that seen it fitting the narrative to this day continue to talk about it. And people say that the media/TV dont control their emotions. If its this easy with sports, just imagine "world affairs". Not saying that the media is wrong all the time, but the media is there to sell the shockvalue in a story, not to tell you exactly what the hell happened. This is why you have situations like JPP suing ESPN/Adam Schefter for releasing his private medical records for the simple purpose of "breaking a story" before someone else...completely disregarding JPP's right to privacy. Media guys can do that, but Geno is a f'ing punk because he calls them d kheads. Makes me laugh. And as a sidenote, if a Zebra never changes its stripes, then why the heck are Jets fans clamoring to sign Fitz to 12 million dollars? He's had those stripes for over a decade right? Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Flushing Roots said: You know I was kidding. Zebra doesn't change it's stripes. He did play catch with his buddies this summer. I'll give you that. I actually found the situation with the media guy that I said I called out. Here's his tweet. Notice what he said: "Namath endorses Geno Smith for Jets QB but Geno didn't express same confidence speaking to us. However, Check out the actual interview and what was said. Not only did Geno tell him that it was a great event and that he was there to honor Eric Decker, but the guy even jumps on his "johnson" talking about how the "Job could be out there for him, go take it". Geno responds by saying "Thank you". The next day he goes on twitter talking about how "Geno didnt express the same confidence in himself as Joe Namath did". See the funny sh*t with the media? Meanwhile, Jets fans that arent concerned about what actually happens just read and say "See, he's not a leader, he doesnt even have confidence in himself" when all Geno did was tell the guy that he was honoring Eric for his community service and responded by saying "thank you" for the alleged show of support during the moment...only for this guy to try to sh*t on him on twitter later on. This is the media in a nutshell. They sell stories for shock-value and people eat it up for as long as it fits the narrative. Anway, this was our back-and-forth regarding this bullsh*t report. So as you can see, when this media guy is called out on his bullsh*t by me he first tries to justify "making up a story" then when he realizes that im not "one of those guys" he simply says "go back to playing video games, im done with you". This is also a guy that I noticed that if there's anything being reported from someone else that is negative "Rich Cimini reports that Geno threw an INT in OTA's/Minicamp" this guy retweets it, however, if its something that puts Geno in a positive light....you dont see a f'ing thing. Media dude completely fabricated a story for clickbait on his twitter feed and gave zero sh*ts about it. Yet, if a media guy says Geno called him a d khead, Jets fans being anti-Geno wont even wonder what happened or led up to him calling him a d khead, they just use it as ammunition to further beat on a guy that they dont even know personally. They'll report about how Geno cursed out a group of fans when we all know how fans heckle him and disrespect him when he's on the field after finishing their 5th 4th qtr beer. They ignore the fact that they got what they deserved, but only concentrate on the fact that it makes him look bad....and thats the point. The guys in the media are fans as well, and if they are as anti-Geno as many of the people here on this very website are, then what the heck do you think the tweets/reports going to look like? I literally caught a guy making up a story, called him out on it and he didnt give a rats ass....though when he was in Geno's face he was all "its all yours Geno, go get it". Fake ass people as usual. When they're over the internet on twitter, they say all types of salty stuff, however when they get around Geno and his celebrity status, they're all humble and "Go Geno" with it. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I actually found the situation with the media guy that I said I called out. Here's his tweet. Notice what he said: "Namath endorses Geno Smith for Jets QB but Geno didn't express same confidence speaking to us. However, Check out the actual interview and what was said. Not only did Geno tell him that it was a great event and that he was there to honor Eric Decker, but the guy even jumps on his "johnson" talking about how the "Job could be out there for him, go take it". Geno responds by saying "Thank you". The next day he goes on twitter talking about how "Geno didnt express the same confidence in himself as Joe Namath did". See the funny sh*t with the media? Meanwhile, Jets fans that arent concerned about what actually happens just read and say "See, he's not a leader, he doesnt even have confidence in himself" when all Geno did was tell the guy that he was honoring Eric for his community service and responded by saying "thank you" for the alleged show of support during the moment...only for this guy to try to sh*t on him on twitter later on. This is the media in a nutshell. They sell stories for shock-value and people eat it up for as long as it fits the narrative. Anway, this was our back-and-forth regarding this bullsh*t report. So as you can see, when this media guy is called out on his bullsh*t by me he first tries to justify "making up a story" then when he realizes that im not "one of those guys" he simply says "go back to playing video games, im done with you". This is also a guy that I noticed that if there's anything being reported from someone else that is negative "Rich Cimini reports that Geno threw an INT in OTA's/Minicamp" this guy retweets it, however, if its something that puts Geno in a positive light....you dont see a f'ing thing. Media dude completely fabricated a story for clickbait on his twitter feed and gave zero sh*ts about it. Yet, if a media guy says Geno called him a d khead, Jets fans being anti-Geno wont even wonder what happened or led up to him calling him a d khead, they just use it as ammunition to further beat on a guy that they dont even know personally. They'll report about how Geno cursed out a group of fans when we all know how fans heckle him and disrespect him when he's on the field after finishing their 5th 4th qtr beer. They ignore the fact that they got what they deserved, but only concentrate on the fact that it makes him look bad....and thats the point. The guys in the media are fans as well, and if they are as anti-Geno as many of the people here on this very website are, then what the heck do you think the tweets/reports going to look like? I literally caught a guy making up a story, called him out on it and he didnt give a rats ass....though when he was in Geno's face he was all "its all yours Geno, go get it". Fake ass people as usual. When they're over the internet on twitter, they say all types of salty stuff, however when they get around Geno and his celebrity status, they're all humble and "Go Geno" with it. lol. The media (particularly NY Metro area) can be d**shbags ... And the LEADER of the team has to be able to withstand that through the good and the bad. i'm sure despite finding an example of a media d**sh liar ... You must be willing to accept there have been plenty of times Geno has been the one at fault showing poor skills in this area ... As pointed out numerous times by previous posters. this behavior pattern shows he is not able to handle just himself in NY ... Little less while carrying a team on his back. geno can't do it ... Richard Todd couldn't do it .... Heck a much more talented and better player Philip Rivers has struggled with the San Diego media ... Unless everything fell perfectly, even he would probably fail in NY ... If Rivers can't ... No way in h*ll Geno succeeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flushing Roots Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Villain The Foe said: I actually found the situation with the media guy that I said I called out. Here's his tweet. Notice what he said: "Namath endorses Geno Smith for Jets QB but Geno didn't express same confidence speaking to us. However, Check out the actual interview and what was said. Not only did Geno tell him that it was a great event and that he was there to honor Eric Decker, but the guy even jumps on his "johnson" talking about how the "Job could be out there for him, go take it". Geno responds by saying "Thank you". The next day he goes on twitter talking about how "Geno didnt express the same confidence in himself as Joe Namath did". See the funny sh*t with the media? Meanwhile, Jets fans that arent concerned about what actually happens just read and say "See, he's not a leader, he doesnt even have confidence in himself" when all Geno did was tell the guy that he was honoring Eric for his community service and responded by saying "thank you" for the alleged show of support during the moment...only for this guy to try to sh*t on him on twitter later on. This is the media in a nutshell. They sell stories for shock-value and people eat it up for as long as it fits the narrative. Anway, this was our back-and-forth regarding this bullsh*t report. So as you can see, when this media guy is called out on his bullsh*t by me he first tries to justify "making up a story" then when he realizes that im not "one of those guys" he simply says "go back to playing video games, im done with you". This is also a guy that I noticed that if there's anything being reported from someone else that is negative "Rich Cimini reports that Geno threw an INT in OTA's/Minicamp" this guy retweets it, however, if its something that puts Geno in a positive light....you dont see a f'ing thing. Media dude completely fabricated a story for clickbait on his twitter feed and gave zero sh*ts about it. Yet, if a media guy says Geno called him a d khead, Jets fans being anti-Geno wont even wonder what happened or led up to him calling him a d khead, they just use it as ammunition to further beat on a guy that they dont even know personally. They'll report about how Geno cursed out a group of fans when we all know how fans heckle him and disrespect him when he's on the field after finishing their 5th 4th qtr beer. They ignore the fact that they got what they deserved, but only concentrate on the fact that it makes him look bad....and thats the point. The guys in the media are fans as well, and if they are as anti-Geno as many of the people here on this very website are, then what the heck do you think the tweets/reports going to look like? I literally caught a guy making up a story, called him out on it and he didnt give a rats ass....though when he was in Geno's face he was all "its all yours Geno, go get it". Fake ass people as usual. When they're over the internet on twitter, they say all types of salty stuff, however when they get around Geno and his celebrity status, they're all humble and "Go Geno" with it. lol. You are all in for Geno. I get it. I hope I am wrong about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 1 hour ago, ljr said: The media (particularly NY Metro area) can be d**shbags ... And the LEADER of the team has to be able to withstand that through the good and the bad. i'm sure despite finding an example of a media d**sh liar ... You must be willing to accept there have been plenty of times Geno has been the one at fault showing poor skills in this area ... As pointed out numerous times by previous posters. this behavior pattern shows he is not able to handle just himself in NY ... Little less while carrying a team on his back. geno can't do it ... Richard Todd couldn't do it .... Heck a much more talented and better player Philip Rivers has struggled with the San Diego media ... Unless everything fell perfectly, even he would probably fail in NY ... If Rivers can't ... No way in h*ll Geno succeeds I agree 100% with what your saying. My point however is really less about finding a particular douche bag in the media being caught fabricating a story for clicks and more about Jets fans in general not learning how to "let things go". Im absolutely willing to accept that there are plenty of times that Geno showed poor skills in this area, but im also willing to accept that its to be expected by a 21, 22, 23 year old. In otherwords, im willing to let it go. Jets fans are like the bane of their own existence with all this holding on to every negative thing that is ever said...EVER. Let it go already. The leader of the team has to be able to withstand the media or any other obstacle, but at the same time he has to learn how to do that. Geno's 25 years old, and though he plays a leadership role (Quarterback) he still has to learn how to actually be a leader (why I later on thought Fitz was a good signing in that regard as well as Rex and crew being fired and Bowles/Gailey coming in was a great move). My problem comes in when I continuously see fans posting things of yesteryear with a "negative filter". Example: His "behind the back" fumble in just his 4th professional game ever. They add this to the mix of him not being a leader, however they completely ignore his 1st ever professional game when he led the Jets to a game winning drive with 34 seconds left on the clock and no timeouts after the defense gave up the lead, or his 2 min game winning drive against the Falcons in just his 5th professional game after the defense gave up the lead with 1:54 left in the game. This all happened during the same season, yet as usual what do you only hear about? My problem isnt people disliking Geno as a football player. Everyone knows that I'd prefer Glennon RIGHT NOW if it was possible. However, continuously beating a dead horse, continuously bringing up a fumble that happened 3 years ago while ignoring everything else that he did positive that year while also at the same time ignoring Fitz 11 year history of much of the same is truly, truly old at this point. Why should I care that he sent picks to a nursing student when Brett Favre did the same thing when he was a Jet? No one is talking about Brett Favre. I agree that he needs to handle situations better, however he's been doing EXACTLY THAT this entire offseason yet what do you hear about? $600 from last year, nude pics from his rookie season, calling a reporter a d khead, cursing out Jets fans who deserved it 2 years ago. You dont continuously hear about him supporting Decker when Decker didnt even support him this offseason, or him meeting with that QB guru again to work on his pocket presence, or him down in Florida keeping sharp with Odell and crew, not about the relationship that he's created with his own WR Kenbrell Thompkins, not about him taking rookie WR's under his wing and doing sessions with them, not about his work with kids he's done this offseason in his own community. You dont hear that daily at all. You know what you hear? "He didnt adjust his watch and was late to a meeting in San Diego 2 years ago". Seriously, let the sh*t go already. Not you specifically, im generally speaking here. Just let it go already. We f'ing know what happened in San Diego. We hear it every 15 minutes lol. Sure, I agree with you, but there's a point where all of this is straight excessive and unnecessary and in all reality hateful. I've heard jets fans call this dude everything from being stupid to being a drug dealer to being the next Sheldon Richardson with a mugshot. Let it go already Jets fans. It gets to the point where it stops making Geno look bad and it makes Jets fans look pretty f'ing lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 42 minutes ago, Flushing Roots said: You are all in for Geno. I get it. I hope I am wrong about him. I wouldnt say "all in", but I am willing to give the guy a shot. In that respect im am all in. Give the young man an opportunity to redeem himself instead of helping to beat him into the ground. The media does enough of that on their own, they dont need our help. Ive never been a fan of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 17 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: I agree 100% with what your saying. My point however is really less about finding a particular douche bag in the media being caught fabricating a story for clicks and more about Jets fans in general not learning how to "let things go". Im absolutely willing to accept that there are plenty of times that Geno showed poor skills in this area, but im also willing to accept that its to be expected by a 21, 22, 23 year old. In otherwords, im willing to let it go. Jets fans are like the bane of their own existence with all this holding on to every negative thing that is ever said...EVER. Let it go already. The leader of the team has to be able to withstand the media or any other obstacle, but at the same time he has to learn how to do that. Geno's 25 years old, and though he plays a leadership role (Quarterback) he still has to learn how to actually be a leader (why I later on thought Fitz was a good signing in that regard as well as Rex and crew being fired and Bowles/Gailey coming in was a great move). My problem comes in when I continuously see fans posting things of yesteryear with a "negative filter". Example: His "behind the back" fumble in just his 4th professional game ever. They add this to the mix of him not being a leader, however they completely ignore his 1st ever professional game when he led the Jets to a game winning drive with 34 seconds left on the clock and no timeouts after the defense gave up the lead, or his 2 min game winning drive against the Falcons in just his 5th professional game after the defense gave up the lead with 1:54 left in the game. This all happened during the same season, yet as usual what do you only hear about? My problem isnt disliking Geno as a football player. Everyone knows that I'd prefer Glennon RIGHT NOW if it was possible. However, continuously beating a dead horse, continuously bringing up a fumble that happened 3 years ago while ignoring everything else that he did positive that year while also at the same time ignoring Fitz 11 year history of much of the same is truly, truly old at this point. Why should I care that he sent picks to a nursing student when Brett Favre did the same thing when he was a Jet? No one is talking about Brett Favre. I agree that he needs to handle situations better, however he's been doing EXACTLY THAT this entire offseason yet what do you hear about? $600 from last year, nude pics from his rookie season, calling a reporter a d khead, cursing out Jets fans who deserved it 2 years ago. You dont continuously hear about him supporting Decker when Decker didnt even support him this offseason, or him meeting with that QB guru again to work on his pocket presence, or him down in Florida keeping sharp with Odell and crew, not about the relationship that he's created with his own WR Kenbrell Thompkins, not about him taking rookie WR's under his wing and doing sessions with them, not about his work with kids he's done this offseason in his own community. You dont hear that daily at all. You know what you hear? "He didnt adjust his watch and was late to a meeting in San Diego 2 years ago". Seriously, let the sh*t go already. Not you specifically, im generally speaking here. Just let it go already. We f'ing know what happened in San Diego. We hear it every 15 minutes lol. Sure, I agree with you, but there's a point where all of this is straight excessive and unnecessary and in all reality hateful. I've heard jets fans call this dude everything from being stupid to being a drug dealer to being the next Sheldon Richardson with a mugshot. Let it go already Jets fans. It gets to the point where it stops making Geno look bad and it makes Jets fans look pretty f'ing lame. Good post i would debate you on 2 points still though 1. The amount of negative that Geno has built up over his time here is quite large in comparison to the amount of positive that you bring up. So he really needs to be working extra hard to try and dig out of that hole. The other part of this is performance wise we've seen a flat-line to his career ... Rather than an upward trajectory that would give us more than blind faith hope at improved performance. 2. The other major point that I don't believe you're seeing. I agree that a young kids game performance could be filled with more mistakes & errors in judgement than a player in years 4-5-6 etc (with external factors all being equal) ... But I really don't care how Fitz play compared 11 years ago, as a 21 year old in determining how he will do for the NYJ in 2016. His recent history & Geno's recent history are stronger factors than what either did over a decade ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Well just hope that Geno has matured. And really calmed own a bit. And the way Fitz situation is going. Geno needs to redeem himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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