detectivekimble Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Wilkerson and Richardson are very good players. They're even Pro Bowl players. I don't think you break the bank for guys like that. Leonard Williams, however, is a great player. He's a game wrecker just like Kris Jenkins was. This is the sort of guy you pay. To make grown men look like little boys at the NFL level is nothing short of special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I have always had this opinion . It's why I was always looking to upgrade on Brick Ferguson and insist on the drafting of a QB every single yr . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 8 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Wilkerson and Richardson are very good players. They're even Pro Bowl players. I don't think you break the bank for guys like that. Leonard Williams, however, is a great player. He's a game wrecker just like Kris Jenkins was. This is the sort of guy you pay. To make grown men look like little boys at the NFL level is nothing short of special. Williams was an absolute beast yesterday. If he is going to be that good all year then absolutely - first step to Canton - he was all but unstoppable yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Dude was shades of Kris Jenkins out there. And Jenkins was absolutely a HoF talent. Injuries derailed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 14 hours ago, detectivekimble said: Wilkerson and Richardson are very good players. They're even Pro Bowl players. I don't think you break the bank for guys like that. Leonard Williams, however, is a great player. He's a game wrecker just like Kris Jenkins was. This is the sort of guy you pay. To make grown men look like little boys at the NFL level is nothing short of special. Somewhere along the way, I said that Williams was going to step forwards as our best player on D this year. So far, so good... especially with Revis turning into Cromartie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Can we wait a few more games? Nice start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Integrity28 said: Somewhere along the way, I said that Williams was going to step forwards as our best player on D this year. So far, so good... especially with Revis turning into Cromartie. I remember that. I expected him to be good this year, but wow. He's got that grown man playing against boys thing going on that you see/saw with guys like Watt, Jenkins, Haynesworth (before he got fat and lazy), etc. And CB is a young man's position. I used to laugh when people would say that Cromartie had "no technique" and that Revis would age better because he has "technique." No sir, CB is about athleticism. So long as you have recovery speed and ball skills, you're a good CB. Revis and Cromartie had those things in abundance. Once that goes, you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 13 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Somewhere along the way, I said that Williams was going to step forwards as our best player on D this year. So far, so good... especially with Revis turning into Cromartie. But as of yet not in his off the field activities only 2 kids.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I dont think some fans truly understand how much each of these guys presence effect the other. Wilk is great. Like Watt then Wilk type great. Leo had a great game. Lots of Football left to be considered "great". I think he will be, I basically did back flips the day we drafted him. Just sayin, give it some time. Is McLendon great? He might have been the best defensive player on the field yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Somewhere along the way, I said that Williams was going to step forwards as our best player on D this year. So far, so good... especially with Revis turning into Cromartie. It's down right scary how good and how quick he became that good. Crazier that his body still hasn't completely developed yet. He will be one of the greats if he stays healthy. Wow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Savage69 said: But as of yet not in his off the field activities only 2 kids.. Cromartie with a condom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, JiF said: I dont think some fans truly understand how much each of these guys presence effect the other. Wilk is great. Like Watt then Wilk type great. Leo had a great game. Lots of Football left to be considered "great". I think he will be, I basically did back flips the day we drafted him. Just sayin, give it some time. Is McLendon great? He might have been the best defensive player on the field yesterday. Leo is going to be the best DL in football by the end of next season. McLendon might be great too. I dunno. Should trade one of them for a ******* QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Cromartie with a condom? Condoms, vasectomies and tube-tying can't stop Cro's sperms. Not that I know anything about that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Leo is going to be the best DL in football by the end of next season. McLendon might be great too. I dunno. Should trade one of them for a ******* QB. Could you imagine drafting a QB who got off to the kinda start Williams did? Yep, me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Condoms, vasectomies and tube-tying can't stop Cro's sperms. Not that I know anything about that stuff. Trojan Kevlar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Leo is going to be the best DL in football by the end of next season. McLendon might be great too. I dunno. Should trade one of them for a ******* QB. I dont doubt it. Leo is a beast. Like I said, I did back flips when we took him. The thing we dont know is, what would Leo look like sans Mo Wilk, Richardson, Snacks and now McLendon. My point isnt trying to take anything away from Leo. He's a freak. I'm just saying...these guys benefit immensely from one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, JiF said: I dont doubt it. Leo is a beast. Like I said, I did back flips when we took him. The thing we dont know is, what would Leo look like sans Mo Wilk, Richardson, Snacks and now McLendon. My point isnt trying to take anything away from Leo. He's a freak. I'm just saying...these guys benefit immensely from one another. I actually thinks he tapers off once Rishardsin gets back. He seem to last year. No idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 McLendon is an absolute freak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I actually thinks he tapers off once Rishardsin gets back. He seem to last year. No idea why. Not enough QB's to go around? Kind of like you and chicken wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 It's shocking this happened without snacks drawing the double teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, JiF said: I dont doubt it. Leo is a beast. Like I said, I did back flips when we took him. The thing we dont know is, what would Leo look like sans Mo Wilk, Richardson, Snacks and now McLendon. My point isnt trying to take anything away from Leo. He's a freak. I'm just saying...these guys benefit immensely from one another. Did anyone call that into question? Anyone here with half a wit (which is few and far between) understands cause and effect, and why football is a complementary game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I actually thinks he tapers off once Rishardsin gets back. He seem to last year. No idea why. Nope. Not this year. This year, he makes all the others looks like they need to hit the weight room. He's going to eat a QB before the season ends... creating an all new statistical category. QB sacks <<< QB snacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 11 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Nope. Not this year. This year, he makes all the others looks like they need to hit the weight room. He's going to eat a QB before the season ends... creating an all new statistical category. QB sacks <<< QB snacks Hopefully not. He was amazing to watch yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I posted this before. Gil Brandt had him as the best player in the 2015 draft. Jets got lucky. Hes only 21! Look the f*ck out! Jets are going to destroy a few QBs this year, maybe starts Thursday night. I cant believe Dalton didn't fumble the ball, guy has really matured as a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, JiF said: I dont doubt it. Leo is a beast. Like I said, I did back flips when we took him. The thing we dont know is, what would Leo look like sans Mo Wilk, Richardson, Snacks and now McLendon. My point isnt trying to take anything away from Leo. He's a freak. I'm just saying...these guys benefit immensely from one another. No you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I actually think Richardson has/had the potential to be that kind of player, too bad he is a dunder head fup. In any case these guys careers here will be wasted if we get the kind of tripe secondary play we had yesterday and if we fail to find at least a good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Klecko73isGod said: No you didn't. Not figuratively. I cant do back flips. But I did do a back hand spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, JiF said: Not figuratively. I cant do back flips. But I did do a back hand spring. No you didn't. You were excited, sure, but there were no gymnastics involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Klecko73isGod said: No you didn't. You were excited, sure, but there were no gymnastics involved. Screw you. I definitely did a backward somersault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I wouldn't lump Wilk and Richardson together. Wilk is miles better. But I agree on Leonard, he is just ridiculously talented. His offseason goal was to get stronger (he looked really soft without a shirt on as a rookie) and it looks like he made some strides there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Just now, Saul Goodman said: I wouldn't lump Wilk and Richardson together. Wilk is miles better. But I agree on Leonard, he is just ridiculously talented. His offseason goal was to get stronger (he looked really soft without a shirt on as a rookie) and it looks like he made some strides there. I Agree I think Wilkerson > Richardson. But I think Richardson has a higher ceiling . I hope we can keep all 3. When it's all said and done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsamuel84 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Time to trade Sheldon for a CB or O-Lineman. With Mo signing long term and Leo looking like a stud we just can't afford to invest all that money on D-Line. I like Sheldon he's a team leader but we have too many other holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, JiF said: Screw you. I definitely did a backward somersault. Yeah... I don't know about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Condoms, vasectomies and tube-tying can't stop Cro's sperms. Not that I know anything about that stuff. +1 He has fathered children in countries he hasn't even been to just by blasting skyward.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 It's become evident that Klecko is not a big fan of hyperbole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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