UnitedWhofans Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Why would we do that ? OBJ was on the board when we were drafting.. But we don't draft offense in the early rounds.. Only D and qbs who can't help Right away ? No he wasnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 If Odell Beckham had Geno Smith instead of Eli Manning as his quarterback I think there is a distinct possibility he would have had far greater meltdowns by now. I'm talking about Brendan Fraser in The Scout-type meltdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 And yeah that's right, your boy just made a Steve Nebraska reference. Sup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 3 hours ago, JetBlue said: The sooner get Petty or Smith the sooner this team develops a fast strike capability. 39 minutes ago, JetBlue said: What the **** are you talking about? Who said anything about Geno Smith??? Jeez dude give it a rest. J-Bizzle coming in hot today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: What does this have to do with the current conversation? You just know your position is weak and you've got nothing else to say? That it? Good to know. Your are really reaching. Fits is the worst QB in the league. He is paid $12MM to throw picks for the Jets. Geno would do no worse for less money. Just where is my position weak? You are trolling. Just stop. You got your QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 37 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: No he wasnt My mistake. That he was the same yr we wasted a top 10 pick on a Dback who is no longer with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Not really. There is still no real reason to draft a running back in the first round unless it's a generational talent like AP. They typically just don't last to make it worth that investment. Fournette IS that type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 21 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Your are really reaching. Fits is the worst QB in the league. He is paid $12MM to throw picks for the Jets. Geno would do no worse for less money. Just where is my position weak? You are trolling. Just stop. You got your QB This current conversation surrounds the fact that you and others think the Fitz contract is holding Bowles back from replacing him. That couldn't be further from the truth. You have a real hard time staying on topic when you're wrong. And you are wrong on that premise. It's a weak argument meant to deflect from the fact that the reality is the staff and front office want nothing to do with Geno as their QB and it has nothing to do with the very little money they are paying Fitz. 9 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Fournette IS that type of player. I don't see it at all. Plenty of big SEC running backs have come and been drafted high. He's a really good player, but not worth it to the Jets to select in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: Hard to play Geno when you are paying a guy $12MM that is in front of him. What a brilliant FO move there. 2 hours ago, Warfish said: No. It's really, really not that hard at all. Coaches and GMs get heat for losing. They get eye rolls and told-you-so's for benching high-paid starters in order to stop the losing. The $12 is not the reason Fitz is still starting. The is currently the most illogical argument being kicked about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: The year of Elliot has reinforced the notion of drafting Fournette Some of these guys are just game changers. Elliott, McCoy, Peterson, Gurley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Not really. There is still no real reason to draft a running back in the first round unless it's a generational talent like AP. They typically just don't last to make it worth that investment. I was watching LeSean McCoy today. That kind of guy is worth a first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: This current conversation surrounds the fact that you and others think the Fitz contract is holding Bowles back from replacing him. That couldn't be further from the truth. You have a real hard time staying on topic when you're wrong. And you are wrong on that premise. It's a weak argument meant to deflect from the fact that the reality is the staff and front office want nothing to do with Geno as their QB and it has nothing to do with the very little money they are paying Fitz. I don't see it at all. Plenty of big SEC running backs have come and been drafted high. He's a really good player, but not worth it to the Jets to select in the first round. Go troll someone else. You cried for Fitz. You have no cred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Larz said: you need an OC that is creative and aggressive, time to throw, an open WR and a strong accurate throw to get 75 yard TD's the jets have none of this, its not just the QB Jets have this. Problem is the QB can't execute these plays, only the worst OC would expect Fitz to pass downfield and long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: I was watching LeSean McCoy today. That kind of guy is worth a first rounder. If only the Jets had a game changer game breaker RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Coaches and GMs get heat for losing. They get eye rolls and told-you-so's for benching high-paid starters in order to stop the losing. The $12 is not the reason Fitz is still starting. The is currently the most illogical argument being kicked about. Tanny got heat for cap mismanagement . So please really look at your position again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Go troll someone else. You cried for Fitz. You have no cred. I'm not trolling. I never cried for Fitz. And you've yet to provide any concrete facts or evidence that support your position. I honestly don't care about what "cred" you think I have or don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: If only the Jets had a game changer game breaker RB Gillislee looks good, too. Not sure what the Dolphins were thinking when they released him only a year after drafting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Warfish said: Wow, you'd think this "Play Geno, have Deep Game" concept would be OBVIOUS to a genius like Chan, wouldn't you? Really makes you think. Lol. Geno obsession lives on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Jetdawgg said: Tanny got heat for cap mismanagement . So please really look at your position again. Only after the losses started piling up. Losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just now, detectivekimble said: Gillislee looks good, too. Not sure what the Dolphins were thinking when they released him only a year after drafting him. The Dolphins you answered your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I'm not trolling. I never cried for Fitz. And you've yet to provide any concrete facts or evidence that support your position. I honestly don't care about what "cred" you think I have or don't have. Last cycle guy. You are entitled to your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Warfish said: Wow, you'd think this "Play Geno, have Deep Game" concept would be OBVIOUS to a genius like Chan, wouldn't you? Really makes you think. Chan endorsed bringing Fitz back so I am not sure he qualifies as a credible witness on Geno at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Only after the losses started piling up. Losses. The Jets are really winning with Fitz I see......smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Jetdawgg said: All those who rattled the chain for Fitz should have a Red F next to their avatar. Didn't want to sully my avatar, as my alma mater has nothing to do with this, and I couldn't color it red....but there you go. "F" is my rank: Jetsfan80 F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Didn't want to sully my avatar, and I couldn't color it red, but there you go. "F" is my rank: Jetsfan80 F Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: Last cycle guy. You are entitled to your opinion. I'm not sure I can make it any simpler for you to understand. But the Fitz contract is not stopping the Jets from making a QB switch. The money is a sunk cost and they aren't tied to him next season. If anything, that puts them in a BETTER position to move on since they don't and shouldn't expect him back next season. They haven't tied up their future in him and when the time comes, they'll move on to Petty in the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: The Jets are really winning with Fitz I see......smh The Jets arent even competitive in the NFL with Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said: The Jets are really winning with Fitz I see......smh Nobody suggested that. Why bother responding to sh*t if you don't understand it? Losing is why coaches get heat. Jets are losing. This creates perfect reason to bench Fitz, to try to stop losing, regardless of what he gets paid. So, those arguing that Fitz isn't getting benched because salary, are also implying Jets coaches would rather lose, than eat salary. It is a mind-numbingly illogical argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: I'm not sure I can make it any simpler for you to understand. But the Fitz contract is not stopping the Jets from making a QB switch. The money is a sunk cost and they aren't tied to him next season. If anything, that puts them in a BETTER position to move on since they don't and shouldn't expect him back next season. They haven't tied up their future in him and when the time comes, they'll move on to Petty in the present. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 The reason Fitzpatrick is still playing is because we have a stubborn coach who's loyal to his guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, August said: The reason Fitzpatrick is still playing is because we have a stubborn coach who's loyal to his guy. Hopefully his stubborn demeanor gets him fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Yeah. The Jets have really treated poor, put upon Geno Smith so horribly. I mean they drafted him in the second round after every team passed on the once presumed "first overall pick" after he displayed characteristics of immaturity, and after he threw a hissy fit and wanted to go home, but had to be dragged back to the draft by his mommy who bought him a nifty new sweater...He was made the starting QB and gifted the position and he paid them back by tweeting his junk, having an incident on an airliner (post 9-11 not a smart thing), and missing meetings. He still managed to hold on to the starting spot for two years, and in year three, he was the incumbent starter going into preseason and managed to get himself punched by a teammate...all of this while making a few million Dollars. But Idzik didn't give him da weaponzzz....LOLREALLY? The FRANCHISE didn't treat him well? I think we got that backwards. If Geno Smith had a ******* brain in his head, he would be the starting QB playing for a new, big contract.Instead, he let down the team in every way possible, managed to get himself injured in a locker room incident, and relegated to the bench behind a 7th round JAG journeyman, on his way to free agency, a crappy contract, and a chance to be a backup somewhere else If he only had a brain .......But it's funny that the same people ranting about accountability and personal responsibility for Bowles, Fitz, Gailey, or their fellow fans will blame every one else except poor Geno Smith, the perpetual victim.**** him. He's a loser. He had chances people would kill for a blew it. Good riddance Play Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: Jets have this. Problem is the QB can't execute these plays, only the worst OC would expect Fitz to pass downfield and long. who is he throwing to ? marchall ? decker ? anderson ? the new york jets passing offense is not a deep throwing offense, and it's not all on the QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, King P said: I've been on "Draft Fournette" train since the end of last year's draft, and I still haven't gotten off yet Best running back since Bo Jackson. Plus his ankle injury this season is a blessing in disguise, not taking a ton of hits , so his legs will be fresher next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Why would we do that ? OBJ was on the board when we were drafting.. But we don't draft offense in the early rounds.. Only D and qbs who can't help Right away ? Actually he was drafted by the Giants before our pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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