Tony Jefferson News

[KRL]

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/03/free_agency_jets_cardinals_tony_jefferson.html#incart_river_index

 

INDIANAPOLIS -- The Jets secondary is likely headed for a full-on rebuild this offseason. And coach Todd Bowles could be looking to a familiar face for help. 

NFL Scouting Combine 2017: Who are Jets watching on Day 1

The Jets are expected to target Arizona Cardinals safety Tony Jefferson when free agency begins on March 9, a person with knowledge of the situation told NJ Advance Media. Bowles coached Jefferson during his two seasons as Arizona's defensive coordinator (2013-2014).

Jefferson, 25, signed with the Cardinals as an undrafted free agent in 2013. Since then, he has established himself as one of the better strong safeties in the NFL. Jefferson is solid in coverage and very good in the box. He was ProFootballFocus.com's No. 5 ranked safety last year.

In 2016, Jefferson set career-highs in tackles (96), sacks (2) and fumble recoveries (2). He tied a career-high with five defended passes. In 2015, he set personal bests in interceptions (2) and forced fumbles (3). 

Source: Jets expected to tender Williams

The Jets are expected to put the low tender on restricted free agent cornerback Marcus Williams.

 

If the Jets were to sign Jefferson, it might not bode well for former first-round pick Calvin Pryor. Also a strong safety, Pryor struggled mightily in 2016. He finished the season with 62 tackles and one forced fumble. He didn't have a single sack or interception.

Ex-Jets general manager John Idzik drafted Pryor in the first round in 2014. There have been loose rumors of the safety being trade bait this offseason. 

The Jets currently sit with roughly $26.278 million in salary cap space, per OverTheCap.com. After releasing Darrelle Revis this week, it's highly unlikely Jefferson is the only defensive back general manager Mike Maccagnan targets. 

Buster Skrine, Darryl Roberts and Juston Burris are the only cornerbacks under contract heading into 2017. Safety Marcus Gilchrist tore his patellar tendon in December, and it seems unlikely he's ready for the start of the year. 

The Jets are expected to tender restricted free agent cornerback Marcus Williams. 

[Tinstar]

This is also my #1 target in free agency . I over pay for this player if need be .

[KRL]

Hopefully we get Jefferson then turn around and trade Pryor for a #5 / #6 round pick

[JustInFudge]

Huge fan of targeting the 7th best defender off another team in FA.  It's fun fun fun!!!!

 

[Lupz27]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

Huge fan of targeting the 7th best defender off another team in FA.  It's fun fun fun!!!!

 

Not to mention he is possibly a scheme specific player, and the HC running the scheme probably won't be back after next season, and lets lock Jefferson up for 4 years, and the new incoming coach might have a player he has no use for in the final 3 years of the contract sounds sure fire Jets.

[Tinstar]

26 minutes ago, JiF said:

Huge fan of targeting the 7th best defender off another team in FA.  It's fun fun fun!!!!

 

Then you're probably not going to like my #2 target either. I want Jefferson to lead our secondary because he knows Bowles scheme and Minter to lead our Linebackers for the same reason. If I can replace a 34 year old Harris with a 27 year old Minter and save some cap money, it's a done deal .  Our secondary needs an on the field leader to help them line up properly after what we saw last yr . 

[Augustiniak]

revis deserved his share of the blame for the secondary's failings but pryor was right up there.  

[KRL]

5 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Then you're probably not going to like my #2 target either. I want Jefferson to lead our secondary because he knows Bowles scheme and Minter to lead our Linebackers for the same reason. If I can replace a 34 year old Harris with a 27 year old Minter and save some cap money, it's a done deal .  Our secondary needs an on the field leader to help them line up properly after what we saw last yr . 

I shouldn't be surprised but it's amazing how "fans" don't understand how important it is that players

are scheme fits to a particular system.  For instance it's totally worthless to chase a zone CB when you

play a man to man defense

[JustInFudge]

13 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Then you're probably not going to like my #2 target either. I want Jefferson to lead our secondary because he knows Bowles scheme and Minter to lead our Linebackers for the same reason. If I can replace a 34 year old Harris with a 27 year old Minter and save some cap money, it's a done deal .  Our secondary needs an on the field leader to help them line up properly after what we saw last yr . 

I'd prefer Minter to Jefferson because it's going to fill a need.  But that's also because I think Todd Bowles is a moron and has a great S he doesnt play in Rontez Miles.  He's 10x better than Calvin Pryor. 

That said, I wouldnt touch either of them because neither are really difference makers.  Jefferson is basically a LB.

[Lupz27]

12 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Then you're probably not going to like my #2 target either. I want Jefferson to lead our secondary because he knows Bowles scheme and Minter to lead our Linebackers for the same reason. If I can replace a 34 year old Harris with a 27 year old Minter and save some cap money, it's a done deal .  Our secondary needs an on the field leader to help them line up properly after what we saw last yr . 

So what happens in 2018 when Bowles is gone, and we are running say a Tampa 2 type D, and both Jefferson, and Minter are useless to the new coach, and are making big FA $$$$?  You can't approach FA if your Macc to accommodate/tailor to Bowles D, Bowles is a D coach let him coach up the talent you give him, don't look for Bowles specialists, and hand them larges sums of money.  The only guys the Jets should be handing large sums of money to this off season are CB's who can cover soft, or bump, and play zone, natural edge rusher from stand up, or hand in the dirt, and OL who can block.  I'd list QB to, but there just isn't one worth backing the brinks truck up for.  I don't know if you see the theme here, but it's geared towards stopping the other teams QB be it from coverage, or rushing him, and protecting whom ever is behind center for the Jets this coming season, those are the 2 most important things in football, so that is where you spend your money.

[JoJoTownsell1]

Looks like he will be moving on up to the east side. 

[Tinstar]

12 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

So what happens in 2018 when Bowles is gone, and we are running say a Tampa 2 type D, and both Jefferson, and Minter are useless to the new coach, and are making big FA $$$$?  You can't approach FA if your Macc to accommodate/tailor to Bowles D, Bowles is a D coach let him coach up the talent you give him, don't look for Bowles specialists, and hand them larges sums of money.  The only guys the Jets should be handing large sums of money to this off season are CB's who can cover soft, or bump, and play zone, natural edge rusher from stand up, or hand in the dirt, and OL who can block.  I'd list QB to, but there just isn't one worth backing the brinks truck up for.  I don't know if you see the theme here, but it's geared towards stopping the other teams QB be it from coverage, or rushing him, and protecting whom ever is behind center for the Jets this coming season, those are the 2 most important things in football, so that is where you spend your money.

Do me a favor and stay away from bridges when what you expect to happen next off season doesn't happen .  You seem like a really nice family man, so do me that favor Ok .

[joewilly12]

This is great news remind of how many touchdowns Jefferson scores that helps us win some games this upcoming season. 

[Villain The Foe]

26 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

This is great news remind of how many touchdowns Jefferson scores that helps us win some games this upcoming season. 

Hopefully he can stop a few from the opponent. Not sure if that counts.  

[nycdan]

5 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Hopefully he can stop a few from the opponent. Not sure if that counts.  

If so, then our secondary will be movin' on up.

[Jetdawgg]

52 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

So what happens in 2018 when Bowles is gone, and we are running say a Tampa 2 type D, and both Jefferson, and Minter are useless to the new coach, and are making big FA $$$$?  You can't approach FA if your Macc to accommodate/tailor to Bowles D, Bowles is a D coach let him coach up the talent you give him, don't look for Bowles specialists, and hand them larges sums of money.  The only guys the Jets should be handing large sums of money to this off season are CB's who can cover soft, or bump, and play zone, natural edge rusher from stand up, or hand in the dirt, and OL who can block.  I'd list QB to, but there just isn't one worth backing the brinks truck up for.  I don't know if you see the theme here, but it's geared towards stopping the other teams QB be it from coverage, or rushing him, and protecting whom ever is behind center for the Jets this coming season, those are the 2 most important things in football, so that is where you spend your money.

In the past this HC and staff has revealed that they cannot innovate. 

[sourceworx]

Calvin Pryor: Another Idzik Disaster™

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, Lupz27 said:

So what happens in 2018 when Bowles is gone, and we are running say a Tampa 2 type D, and both Jefferson, and Minter are useless to the new coach, and are making big FA $$$$?  You can't approach FA if your Macc to accommodate/tailor to Bowles D, Bowles is a D coach let him coach up the talent you give him, don't look for Bowles specialists, and hand them larges sums of money.  The only guys the Jets should be handing large sums of money to this off season are CB's who can cover soft, or bump, and play zone, natural edge rusher from stand up, or hand in the dirt, and OL who can block.  I'd list QB to, but there just isn't one worth backing the brinks truck up for.  I don't know if you see the theme here, but it's geared towards stopping the other teams QB be it from coverage, or rushing him, and protecting whom ever is behind center for the Jets this coming season, those are the 2 most important things in football, so that is where you spend your money.

well, it doesn't seem like jefferson will come at a really high price since he's a rfa.  minter will be paid at the going rate for his osition.  of the two it sounds like only jefferson would be an odd fit in a different scheme and even there he could be traded. this could be like when rex brought in bart scott and jim leonard to get guys who could run his defense.  it worked until scott decided he didn't want to play and leonard broke his leg.  and it's way too early to think bowles will be launched after this season.  the season has to play out first.  we will find out pretty darn quick.

[Freeman24]

Ha! I'd stick with Bouye and use money elsewhere like LT. Luke Joekel would be my joice there. DJ Swearger is a good option for safety help.

[T0mShane]

Didn't he run a 4.8 at the Combine?

[Freeman24]

Ha! I'd stick with Bouye and use money elsewhere like LT. Luke Joekel would be my joice there. DJ Swearger is a good option for safety help.

[sourceworx]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Didn't he run a 4.8 at the Combine?

Remember when Rex compared Pryor to Jack Tatum? I wonder who he'd compare Jefferson to? 

[Lupz27]

12 minutes ago, rangerous said:

well, it doesn't seem like jefferson will come at a really high price since he's a rfa.  minter will be paid at the going rate for his osition.  of the two it sounds like only jefferson would be an odd fit in a different scheme and even there he could be traded. this could be like when rex brought in bart scott and jim leonard to get guys who could run his defense.  it worked until scott decided he didn't want to play and leonard broke his leg.  and it's way too early to think bowles will be launched after this season.  the season has to play out first.  we will find out pretty darn quick.

Yeah, but Rex did that year 1 not year 3, year 1 it is acceptable, but going into year 3, and year 4 is most likely not happening for this HC it would be utter stupidity for the GM to let the HC sink him also while trying to save his skin selfishly, the GM needs to look at the future, and what is best for the NY Jets long term not just what is best for Bowles to keep his job.

[rangerous]

1 minute ago, Lupz27 said:

Yeah, but Rex did that year 1 not year 3, year 1 it is acceptable, but going into year 3, and year 4 is most likely not happening for this HC it would be utter stupidity for the GM to let the HC sink him also while trying to save his skin selfishly, the GM needs to look at the future, and what is best for the NY Jets long term not just what is best for Bowles to keep his job.

maybe, but the thing is good football players are good football players regardless of the scheme. i'd be perfectly fine with getting bowles guys if they can play.  and if the team succeeds then so does bowles and vice versa. he's still the coach this season and not getting the right players won't make anyone look very good.

[Lupz27]

5 minutes ago, rangerous said:

maybe, but the thing is good football players are good football players regardless of the scheme. i'd be perfectly fine with getting bowles guys if they can play.  and if the team succeeds then so does bowles and vice versa. he's still the coach this season and not getting the right players won't make anyone look very good.

Nobody succeeds without a QB, who gives a sh*t who Bowles has on his defense, what part of this don't you guys understand man, the Jets have zero chance of winning anything next season without a franchise QB magically appearing out of thin air for this franchise.

[Tinstar]

2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Nobody succeeds without a QB, who gives a sh*t who Bowles has on his defense, what part of this don't you guys understand man, the Jets have zero chance of winning anything next season without a franchise QB magically appearing out of thin air for this franchise.

And when they do, what will you say then  ?

[SenorGato]

Pass

Gilmore, please! 

[Butterfield]

2 hours ago, Tinstar said:

Then you're probably not going to like my #2 target either. I want Jefferson to lead our secondary because he knows Bowles scheme and Minter to lead our Linebackers for the same reason. If I can replace a 34 year old Harris with a 27 year old Minter and save some cap money, it's a done deal .  Our secondary needs an on the field leader to help them line up properly after what we saw last yr . 

They are at the top of my list too!  Heck, id bring frostee rucker in cheap as a rotationsl guy at de if sheldon is traded off.

[Lupz27]

14 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

And when they do, what will you say then  ?

I will say I can't believe the Jets actually drafted Pat Mahomes II!

[Tinstar]

Just now, Lupz27 said:

I will say I can't believe the Jets actually drafted Pat Mahomes II!

LMAO, you are persistent . I admire that trait in people .

[rangerous]

27 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Nobody succeeds without a QB, who gives a sh*t who Bowles has on his defense, what part of this don't you guys understand man, the Jets have zero chance of winning anything next season without a franchise QB magically appearing out of thin air for this franchise.

yep but this thread is about jefferson and minter.  there are many threads about qb. as for the defense, if the 2016 defense played well then maybe they would've won 8 or more.  they has a seriously bad turnover ratio and it wasn't only due to fitz throwing 14 ints.

[chirorob]

34 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Nobody succeeds without a QB, who gives a sh*t who Bowles has on his defense, what part of this don't you guys understand man, the Jets have zero chance of winning anything next season without a franchise QB magically appearing out of thin air for this franchise.

So, you do what Seattle did.  You build a good team, so when you find your QB you can take the next step.  What do you suggest, draft no one until we find a QB? 

If you put a great young QB on this team, with the line, and this D, you aren't winning anyway.   Actually, how they did it for Sanchez was correct, protect a young QB with a running attack and a good D, Sanchez just didn't pan out, and then they gutted the team on him.

[jack48]

2 hours ago, JiF said:

I'd prefer Minter to Jefferson because it's going to fill a need.  But that's also because I think Todd Bowles is a moron and has a great S he doesnt play in Rontez Miles.  He's 10x better than Calvin Pryor. 

That said, I wouldnt touch either of them because neither are really difference makers.  Jefferson is basically a LB.

Agree with the "moron" assessment

[jack48]

Todd Bowles is geting an extra year here because....well, just because.  Bringing in guys to fit his system make sno sense.  Sign talent.

[Tinstar]

2 minutes ago, chirorob said:

So, you do what Seattle did.  You build a good team, so when you find your QB you can take the next step.  What do you suggest, draft no one until we find a QB? 

If you put a great young QB on this team, with the line, and this D, you aren't winning anyway.   Actually, how they did it for Sanchez was correct, protect a young QB with a running attack and a good D, Sanchez just didn't pan out, and then they gutted the team on him.

Why do people always say this when talking about Sanchez .   The Jets built a team with aging vets that could carry a young QB . They did for 2 years, but when it came time for the QB to carry the team 3 years into his tenure in the same scheme, he failed miserably . 

The  Seahawks did the exact same thing and put Russell Wilson behind center . The defense and the running game took him to a super bowl . When the RB and the defense fell off due to injuries, Wilson got better and made plays to keep his team in contention .  

Mark Sanchez failed the Jets, not the other way around . Just exactly how long are you supposed to keep veteran Players whose price tag only gets higher ?