Beerfish Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Lolphins just cut Jordan. Gholston 6th overall, 0 sacks, 45 games, 5 games started vs Dion Jordan who was 3rd overall and the Phins had to trade up to get? 3 sacks, 1 start, 28 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Sign this beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I just remember the alleged draft guru community jerking each other off over Jordan like he was going to reinvent the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Gholston. Gholston was a special kind of suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, pointman said: Gholston. Gholston was a special kind of suck. Gholston flat out sucked this guy is flat out stupid............worth a look before NE beats us to him. Jordan missed the past two seasons due to suspensions for violating the NFL's policy on substances of abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I just remember the alleged draft guru community jerking each other off over Jordan like he was going to reinvent the sport. Know what I remember about that? All the reasons these guys used to justify getting Jordan = all the reasons that were used to justify getting Darron Lee last year. Sure he is small but he is fast! He can cover LBs. TES!, He will be a play maker at the next level even if he had little play making production in college! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Gholston flat out sucked this guy is flat out stupid............worth a look before NE beats us to him. Jordan missed the past two seasons due to suspensions for violating the NFL's policy on substances of abuse. Gholston was lousy, Jordan was lousy and an addict and they phish had to trade up from 12 to 3 to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Beerfish said: Know what I remember about that? All the reasons these guys used to justify getting Jordan = all the reasons that were used to justify getting Darron Lee last year. Sure he is small but he is fast! He can cover LBs. TES!, He will be a play maker at the next level even if he had little play making production in college! "Watch this clip of him lining up over a slot receiver!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 The thing with Gholston was that he was overdrafted almost entirely based on his Combine performance, which makes his selection worse. If a dude was a third rounder before the Combine, he's a third rounder after the Combine, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 27 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Know what I remember about that? All the reasons these guys used to justify getting Jordan = all the reasons that were used to justify getting Darron Lee last year. Sure he is small but he is fast! He can cover LBs. TES!, He will be a play maker at the next level even if he had little play making production in college! Jordan is small now? or are you desperately trying to get your anti-Lee talking points in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The thing with Gholston was that he was overdrafted almost entirely based on his Combine performance, which makes his selection worse. If a dude was a third rounder before the Combine, he's a third rounder after the Combine, too. That's not accurate at all. Gholston was beast at Ohio State. 22.5 sacks (led the nation) in his two years as a starter, including sacks against 1st overall pick Jake Long... He was projected as a high first round pick before the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: That's not accurate at all. Gholston was beast at Ohio State. 22.5 sacks (led the nation) in his two years as a starter, including sacks against 1st overall pick Jake Long... He was projected as a high first round pick before the combine. I don't believe that was the case. I know he had the numbers, but I recall reading that he was stiff and couldn't move. I used to have all those dopey draft magazines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The thing with Gholston was that he was overdrafted almost entirely based on his Combine performance, which makes his selection worse. If a dude was a third rounder before the Combine, he's a third rounder after the Combine, too. Sounds nice but check your facts. gholston had 14.5 sacks his last year at ohio state, 7 the previous- production was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, cant wait said: Jordan is small now? or are you desperately trying to get your anti-Lee talking points in Jordan was only 226 his last year at oregon, he bulked before the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I don't believe that was the case. I know he had the numbers, but I recall reading that he was stiff and couldn't move. I used to have all those dopey draft magazines Pretty much. Gholston's the poster child for people saying a guy had a great combine because they're paying attention to the wrong events. It also seems like he really didn't give a sh*t about football, which doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Jordan was only 226 his last year at oregon, he bulked before the combine. Okay well that would be alarming- no wonder he keeps getting flagged for PEDs. He's listed at 275 now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: I just remember the alleged draft guru community jerking each other off over Jordan like he was going to reinvent the sport. I said Mingo > Jordan what did I win? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 VG by a mile. We drafted him. And I wanted Jonathan Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Gholston and it's not even that close. Still waiting on his first career sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 31 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: Gholston and it's not even that close. Still waiting on his first career sack Only sack Gholston will ever come close to is the one between his legs, if he has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Both suck equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 That Gholston draft was the first of maybe the worst three straight years of Jets drafting ever. Not one player drafted between '08 and '10 lasted on this team past their rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: Pretty much. Gholston's the poster child for people saying a guy had a great combine because they're paying attention to the wrong events. It also seems like he really didn't give a sh*t about football, which doesn't help. True. But he wasn't that terrible in the important drills either. It just so happened he was drafted by the Jets and literally did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Kyle Wilson sucked just as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 If no one signs Jordan the Jets should invite him to camp. Risk vs reward nothing to lose everything to gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: Kyle Wilson sucked just as bad. Not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 We must hold the record for the highest draft busts ever. Johnny Lam Jones, Browning Nagle, Blair Thomas, Lageman, Kyle Brady, Gholston ugggghh I need a Tylenol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Both guys with great talent. I don't know that much about Jordan. But Vern didn't seem to want to be here. By here I mean playing pro football. For some guys once you get that money it's hard to get motivated. It's not easy to want to take someone else's head off. Most of us would prefer kicking back and being teddy bears. Hanging out with girls, drinking Mai Tais, etc. Unfortunately for us Vern was a teddy bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Lolphins just cut Jordan. Gholston 6th overall, 0 sacks, 45 games, 5 games started vs Dion Jordan who was 3rd overall and the Phins had to trade up to get? 3 sacks, 1 start, 28 games. Really sucks when you have to trade up for a bust, good thing they did though I think they traded to keep us from drafting him so it worked out for the best. I couldn't imagine how redskin fans feel about rg3 they gave up a whole lot to land him and he ended up being almost as fragile as Dee MilnerSent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: True. But he wasn't that terrible in the important drills either. It just so happened he was drafted by the Jets and literally did nothing. He had a good broad jump, but when you control for size it came down to earth a bit (the Waldo metrics all hated him). A guy with his size and strength still should have been able to carve out a career as a homeless man's Calvin Pace, but if the guy doesn't want it, there's not much you can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Gholston by far. Here's an interesting tidbit, Jordan was drafted in 2013, first round. Fifteen of the 32 players selected in the 1St round are no longer with their original teams, including eight of the first 12 picks. Source http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/31/dolphins-part-ways-with-dion-jordan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, dbatesman said: He had a good broad jump, but when you control for size it came down to earth a bit (the Waldo metrics all hated him). A guy with his size and strength still should have been able to carve out a career as a homeless man's Calvin Pace, but if the guy doesn't want it, there's not much you can do. He was in one of the last drafts before the rookie wage scale I believe. Like 20 mill guaranteed at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: He was in one of the last drafts before the rookie wage scale I believe. Like 20 mill guaranteed at least It's best not to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: I don't believe that was the case. I know he had the numbers, but I recall reading that he was stiff and couldn't move. I used to have all those dopey draft magazines I actually remember it the exact opposite. He had monster production and the whole beat Jake Long thing and then he tested like a stiff. I personally remember doing a total 180 on him the more you realized he was all bull rush meat head with stiff hips and no bend. Like too much muscle mass or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 42 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Kyle Wilson sucked just as bad. No. Now you're just being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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