TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Leonard Williams Darron Lee Jamal Adams Marcus Maye Brandon Shell Eli McGuire Sam Darnold Jordan Jenkins Lac Edwards Robby Anderson Chris Herndon Derrick Jones Henry Anderson Avery Williamson Jermaine Kearse Trumaine Johnson Andre Roberts Jason Myers These are guys he has brought in that in my opinion can help make us a playoff team. Factor in this years draft pick in the top 5 and all the cap space we have accumulated and I think its safe to say with a competent coaching staff we can make the playoffs in 2019 with a Jim Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy etc. Macc has done more than enough to improve this roster. Lets not forget everyone has misses in the draft every year too not just us. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Pethaps we can ban this valued and long-time poster who’s clearly lost his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Pethaps we can ban this valued and long-time poster who’s clearly lost his way Tom Shane c'mon brother. Making a point like many do here. I still hate Bowles more than Ted Bundy if that helps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Pethaps we can ban this valued and long-time poster who’s clearly lost his way Discussions are underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, TNJet said: Leonard Williams Bum with little to no impact on the game 11 minutes ago, TNJet said: Darron Lee Tiny LB who gets flushed out of a ton of plays 11 minutes ago, TNJet said: Jamal Adams The GOAT — but still a safety. 11 minutes ago, TNJet said: Marcus Maye Seriously, what has Maye proven? He’s decent but can’t stay healthy. Not worth the 2nd round pick. 12 minutes ago, TNJet said: Brandon Shell My man, did you really just list an average RT? 13 minutes ago, TNJet said: Eli McGuire OK this Eli hype is officially aggravating me. 3.2 YPC dude. He can be a poor man’s Bilal Powell. 14 minutes ago, TNJet said: Sam Darnold Literally the only player on this list that matters besides Robby. 15 minutes ago, TNJet said: Jordan Jenkins Calvin Pace led us to back to back AFC Championships so this makes sense. 16 minutes ago, TNJet said: Lac Edwards Ok now you are just picking names out of a hat. 16 minutes ago, TNJet said: Robby Anderson Player that matters #2 16 minutes ago, TNJet said: Chris Herndon Promising TE. We’ll see where year 2 takes us first though. 17 minutes ago, TNJet said: Derrick Jones Why.... 17 minutes ago, TNJet said: Henry Anderson Solid DL. 17 minutes ago, TNJet said: Avery Williamson Solid MLB 18 minutes ago, TNJet said: Jermaine Kearse He’s been invisible all year and he won’t even be with the team next year. 18 minutes ago, TNJet said: Trumaine Johnson oof... 66% of Mike Maccagnan’s picks are out of the league already. It’s MORE than just “every GM misses” stop this BS. You Maccagnan apologists are crawling out of the woods like Jeremy Bates will soon be going back in them. Yeah the guy will have another chance but that doesn’t mean he deserves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, TNJet said: Leonard Williams Darron Lee Jamal Adams Marcus Maye Brandon Shell Eli McGuire Sam Darnold Jordan Jenkins Lac Edwards Robby Anderson Chris Herndon Derrick Jones Henry Anderson Avery Williamson Jermaine Kearse Trumaine Johnson Andre Roberts Jason Myers These are guys he has brought in that in my opinion can help make us a playoff team. Factor in this years draft pick in the top 5 and all the cap space we have accumulated and I think its safe to say with a competent coaching staff we can make the playoffs in 2019 with a Jim Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy etc. Macc has done more than enough to improve this roster. Lets not forget everyone has misses in the draft every year too not just us. ? LOL Bro I repped ya, just because you got balls for this post. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Jet fans are some of the toughest out there. That’s what being deprived of a super bowl win since 69 will do but also sometimes irrationally impatient. I agree mac has done to me a slightly better then average Job, but also had a lot of misses and weird things like ummm hackenberg? Bowles gotta go, I’m ok with mac staying another year. Remember his trade basically got us darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, TNJet said: Leonard Williams Darron Lee Jamal Adams Marcus Maye Brandon Shell Eli McGuire Sam Darnold Jordan Jenkins Lac Edwards Robby Anderson Chris Herndon Derrick Jones Henry Anderson Avery Williamson Jermaine Kearse Trumaine Johnson Andre Roberts Jason Myers These are guys he has brought in that in my opinion can help make us a playoff team. Factor in this years draft pick in the top 5 and all the cap space we have accumulated and I think its safe to say with a competent coaching staff we can make the playoffs in 2019 with a Jim Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy etc. Macc has done more than enough to improve this roster. Lets not forget everyone has misses in the draft every year too not just us. ? All that and three straight 5-11 or worse seasons. Yeah, we are a playoff team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 You have to consider roster management and structure The foundational positions, QB, EDGE, LT, CB, WR he added players here and there but never seemed to really build something that could come together Fitz, Mauldin, beachum, Revis, Marshall All stop gap types of players at the most important positions He inherited a mess but then he made his own mess The worst part of it is that when he passed on Watson and mahomes for this last class that makes me feel like he had ownership buy in and is safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Maccagnan > Bowles ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Bum with little to no impact on the game Tiny LB who gets flushed out of a ton of plays The GOAT — but still a safety. Seriously, what has Maye proven? He’s decent but can’t stay healthy. Not worth the 2nd round pick. My man, did you really just list an average RT? OK this Eli hype is officially aggravating me. 3.2 YPC dude. He can be a poor man’s Bilal Powell. Literally the only player on this list that matters besides Robby. Calvin Pace led us to back to back AFC Championships so this makes sense. Ok now you are just picking names out of a hat. Player that matters #2 Promising TE. We’ll see where year 2 takes us first though. Why.... Solid DL. Solid MLB He’s been invisible all year and he won’t even be with the team next year. oof... 66% of Mike Maccagnan’s picks are out of the league already. It’s MORE than just “every GM misses” stop this BS. You Maccagnan apologists are crawling out of the woods like Jeremy Bates will soon be going back in them. Yeah the guy will have another chance but that doesn’t mean he deserves it. I notice you dissaprove Lee who is excellent in coverage and is subpar in run support, but approve of Williamson who is subpar in coverage but good in run support. What is the reason behind that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: I notice you dissaprove Lee who is excellent in coverage and is subpar in run support, but approve of Williamson who is subpar in coverage but good in run support. What is the reason behind that? Lee’s strong suit hasn’t come up enough. He’s gotten a few picks but it simply hasn’t overshadowed his god awful run support. I also wouldn’t call him excellent in coverage. He’s better in coverage. He still looks lost and caught in the wrong place on passing plays at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, TNJet said: Tom Shane c'mon brother. Making a point like many do here. I still hate Bowles more than Ted Bundy if that helps... Ted Bundy still gets so much notoriety. One night watching one of those serial killer programs... it brought up one I had forgotten about. Danny Rolling. Living in Florida, what that guy did in Gainesville at UF only 12 years after Bundy at FSU... amazing how easy it was to forget about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 oof... 66% of Mike Maccagnan’s picks are out of the league already. It’s MORE than just “every GM misses” stop this BS. You Maccagnan apologists are crawling out of the woods like Jeremy Bates will soon be going back in them. Yeah the guy will have another chance but that doesn’t mean he deserves it.If Sam ends up being a franchise qb than Macc will have gotten us our first one in what 50 years? Even if he was just throwing poop against the wall that in its own right give him one more year in my books. It is not about being appologetic it is about analizing what the guy has done from every angle. He will get another year and I hope he proves the haters wrong.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 All Maccagnan needs to show me in the next draft is he understands OL is a need to any successful offense. Thats the only thing that chaps my ass about Macc. Last year I expected atleast 1 good lineman to be drafted yet he fcked that up again. If he gets us 2 starting caliber oL this year he's done about everything needed to get to the post season with a good HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: If Sam ends up being a franchise qb than Macc will have gotten us our first one in what 50 years? Even if he was just throwing poop against the wall that in its own right give him one more year in my books. It is not about being appologetic it is about analizing what the guy has done from every angle. He will get another year and I hope he proves the haters wrong. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app I am analyzing what he has done from every angle. And it’s down right fireable but yes, Maccagnan should stay because he lucked into one player. He still deserves the chance to ruin that player with the rest of his drafting. Am I right? Maccagnan has to prove DA HATERZ WRONG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 No offense but imagine if you read these players names listed off on a post on a Dolphins or Bills message board. You’d laugh your ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 OP does have a point. Darnold/Herndon bought him another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: No offense but imagine if you read these players names listed off on a post on a Dolphins or Bills message board. You’d laugh your ass off. That’s always my test when we are defending JAGs (like Geno): what would we say to dolphin fans defending same? I mean we mock tannehill, who is joe Montana against Geno and Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 Anyone who thinks Leonard Williams is a bum doesn't understand defensive Line. He is the only guy we have that demands a double team hence the success of Henry Anderson. Yes he isnt a sack artist but im sure with more dline help being another talented guy by his side he'd make a jump to the next level. A better dline coach and a DC that could scheme wouldnt hurt his production either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, jgb said: That’s always my test when we are defending JAGs (like Geno): what would we say to dolphin fans defending same? I mean we mock tannehill, who is joe Montana against Geno and Sanchez. He’s Joe Montana anyway...as long as Bowles can’t figure how to stop the complex playing style of Ryan Tannehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, jgb said: That’s always my test when we are defending JAGs (like Geno): what would we say to dolphin fans defending same? I mean we mock tannehill, who is joe Montana against Geno and Sanchez. Haha, same thing I do. It’s a good litmus test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: He’s Joe Montana anyway...as long as Bowles can’t figure how to stop the complex playing style of Ryan Tannehill. Matt Barkley. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, TNJet said: Anyone who thinks Leonard Williams is a bum doesn't understand defensive Line. He is the only guy we have that demands a double team hence the success of Henry Anderson. Yes he isnt a sack artist but im sure with more dline help being another talented guy by his side he'd make a jump to the next level. A better dline coach and a DC that could scheme wouldnt hurt his production either. He hasn’t been double teamed like that this season. Cut the crap. His QB hits aren’t even there anymore. He’s been exposed multiple times for dogging it on plays. This crap where posters yell.. “HES ALWAYS DOUBLE TEAMED, WHAT CAN HE DO!?” is hilarious, man. He hasn’t been double teamed extensively in a long time. Look at the All-22. Look at the numbers. It’s so false. You are a good poster...stop this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: He hasn’t been double teamed like that this season. Cut the crap. His QB hits aren’t even there anymore. He’s been exposed multiple times for dogging it on plays. This crap where posters yell.. “HES ALWAYS DOUBLE TEAMED, WHAT CAN HE DO!?” is hilarious, man. He hasn’t been double teamed extensively in a long time. Look at the All-22. Look at the numbers. It’s so false. You are a good poster...stop this man. Yes he has underachieved for a 6th overall pick but this guy isnt a bum or he wouldn't have started 4 yrs straight. He can be better with more help in talent and coaching. Sheperd type busts arent gonna help him much. Anderson is twice the player Sheperd is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, TNJet said: Yes he has underachieved for a 6th overall pick but this guy isnt a bum or he wouldn't have started 4 yrs straight. He can be better with more help in talent and coaching. Sheperd type busts arent gonna help him much. Anderson is twice the player Sheperd is. Williams ain’t no bum. He’s loafing a bit this year but Todd isn’t exactly the kind of coach to hold players to task. I’d be bitterly disappointed if we unload him this year would like to see him under a HC with gravitas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, TNJet said: Yes he has underachieved for a 6th overall pick but this guy isnt a bum or he wouldn't have started 4 yrs straight. He can be better with more help in talent and coaching. Sheperd type busts arent gonna help him much. Anderson is twice the player Sheperd is. He’s a bum because he dogs it on plays just like Wilkerson did. All that size and power for nothing. He’s started 4 years because he has so much draft capital invested in him and he’s been just average enough to not be noticed or pulled. He doesn’t impact plays. Run or pass. He doesn’t do anything. You can throw any 300 pounder out there in his place and we would have the same record! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: He’s a bum because he dogs it on plays just like Wilkerson did. All that size and power for nothing. He’s started 4 years because he has so much draft capital invested in him and he’s been just average enough to not be noticed or pulled. He doesn’t impact plays. Run or pass. He doesn’t do anything. You can throw any 300 pounder out there in his place and we would have the same record! He may take plays off (he clearly does) but there is no buzz about his brushing off meetings and being a malcontent poop-stirrer. Let’s see what he can do with a fresh staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted December 28, 2018 Author Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: He’s a bum because he dogs it on plays just like Wilkerson did. All that size and power for nothing. He’s started 4 years because he has so much draft capital invested in him and he’s been just average enough to not be noticed or pulled. He doesn’t impact plays. Run or pass. He doesn’t do anything. You can throw any 300 pounder out there in his place and we would have the same record! I blame Bowles for the dline sucking. Bowles is a buffoon when it comes to young players. Why hasnt he given Foley Fat or that Simon kid some playing time in the past ? We obviously need more help. Simons already cut but we had him 3 yrs and Bowles never played tjis guy. We run a 34 and he cant get 2 young 6 ft 4 330 pound guys in there at NT? Why?? Oh but Mcclendon fits the scheme?? Bs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, jgb said: He may take plays off (he clearly does) but there is no buzz about his brushing off meetings and being a malcontent poop-stirrer. Let’s see what he can do with a fresh staff. That, i’ll give him. He hasn’t done anything like that yet. He did say that he doesn’t know if he’ll sign back if Bowles is fired but i’ll just chalk it up to emotional talk. Something may be up with him. He threw a punch at a GB Packer. Very out of character for him, despite what I think of his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, TNJet said: I blame Bowles for the dline sucking. Bowles is a buffoon when it comes to young players. Why hasnt he given Foley Fat or that Simon kid some playing time in the past ? We obviously need more help. Simons already cut but we had him 3 yrs and Bowles never played tjis guy. We run a 34 and he cant get 2 young 6 ft 4 330 pound guys in there at NT? Why?? Oh but Mcclendon fits the scheme?? Bs!!! Sheldon and Mo puffed up and turded out under Bowles and Leo dragging out there. Bowles turned the heart and strength of this team into a hole. It’s on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Lee’s strong suit hasn’t come up enough. He’s gotten a few picks but it simply hasn’t overshadowed his god awful run support. I also wouldn’t call him excellent in coverage. He’s better in coverage. He still looks lost and caught in the wrong place on passing plays at times. Lee has been used wrong, he should be rushing the qb with his speed not playing cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: That, i’ll give him. He hasn’t done anything like that yet. He did say that he doesn’t know if he’ll sign back if Bowles is fired but i’ll just chalk it up to emotional talk. Something may be up with him. He threw a punch at a GB Packer. Very out of character for him, despite what I think of his play. I got in a first fight with my brother at my grandmother’s house after losing two games of techmo bowl in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, jgb said: I got in a first fight with my brother at my grandmother’s house after losing two games of techmo bowl in a row. Should of used Bo Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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