Blade Mafia - Blood of the Forefathers

[Jetscode1]

5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

booze - you can't post in here anymore unless it's just a joke or a meme or something.

See you soon in DT.  Who is the scum?

[32EBoozer]

21 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

booze - you can't post in here anymore unless it's just a joke or a meme or something.

That was a joke!

Ciao

[Stark]

46 minutes ago, JiF said:

You're right, wanna bang? 

Only when you break 80 

[Barry McCockinner]

2 hours ago, Jetscode1 said:

See you soon in DT.  Who is the scum?

Does @Pac know there was a hammer?

[Pac]

Final Vote Count:

JC (5) - Beaver, Verbal, DPR, JVill, JiF

DPR (1) - JC

 

 

 

[Pac]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Does @Pac know there was a hammer?

Don't ever question me, newb.

[Pac]

CLICK ME

 

[AVM]

4 minutes ago, Pac said:

CLICK ME

 

? ? ? ? ?

choked on my drink when that first note hit, not what I expected at all....hahahaha

[Pac]

"So you guys ever seen Screech's dick"?

CLICK ME

 

".... what, now"?

"The dude is built like a tri-pod.  I love watching him go to work"

"whoa whoa TMI, chief"

"Just saying..  y'all don't know what you're missing out on".

 

The group had enough of this clowns bullsh-t and obfuscation.  One of the bystanders grabbed the dildo JC was carrying in his fanny pack and slap him across the face with it.

"Hey usually I only do this kind of thing on weekends".

One after another they took turns beating him with his own dildo until he was gone....

 

JC, aka Dagon (SK with a vest) is DEAD!

 

it is now night.....

[Stark]

Yes sir. Nice. 

[jvill 51]

On 4/19/2020 at 2:53 PM, jvill 51 said:

Vote JC

I want to read back on his game now to see if that sways me but the way Lee's read on him flipped with minimal explanation right as a conversion was going down is suspicious enough right now.

 

11 minutes ago, Pac said:

JC, aka Dagon (SK with a vest) is DEAD!

 

it is now night.....

[JustInFudge]

I’m a mafia god.

[Stark]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

I’m a mafia god.

Nice view sir

[Beaver]

 

[Stark]

5) Verbal - town motion detector 

8) DPR

11) AVM

14) JiF

15) Stark - town bookie

19) Jville

20) Beaver- town restless spirit

 

Think that is all the “official” reveals. I don’t remember any others for the remaining players. 

[CTM]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

I’m a mafia god.

Jif you idiot, it's been like 5 years with this sh*t now. you still can't figure out how to post your pictures right side up?

[Jetsfan80]

I know at least one that Pac is choosing.

[DPR]

On 4/16/2020 at 9:56 PM, Nynaeve said:

Honestly I still feel pretty good about drums. DPR trended up with getting a bit more involved. Really liked Barry digging in on his suss and sharing thoughts and observation. Felt very through and focused. I still kinda like Jville though someone commented that he plays like this as either alignment so not feeling super confident there since I don't have a lot of experience reading him. AVM also made some valid posts.

Verb is back to null. TO BE CONTINUED. Same as AJ though out of the two AJ sounds better. As far as SMC he is a low poster but when he does make a point of saying something it seems fine. Like I'm not blown away by any means, but he hasn't said anything that bothered me.

Lee is rapidly trending down. She feels withdrawn... maybe displeased. Shame cause she seemed observant at first but it fell through. Not quite ready to lynch her but my antenna is definitely up.

Would lynch: 80, Lizzie, CTM.

Hess, JC and JiF are pretty much ???? lol  - ie there's stuff I liked and stuff I didn't like. Out of the three I prolly feel best about Hess.

The rest I don't remember much from. Stark, beaver and boozer I think. It also does't help that I keep mixing up beaver and boozer and have no idea from the little I remember which post belongs to who xD

This is Nyn's last reads list

[DPR]

If we assume that the SK knows his apprentice, then this is the fist Cult kill - which makes perfect sense because Lee would not want Nyn zeroing in on her, and Hess would want this read to be her last as well.

But, more importantly, her reads regarding the rest of the game were pretty good and we know they were genuine.

I'm still looking at this through my "a newer player is more likely to whack Drums and Barry" scope, (which matches up with a 7th round draft pick) so I'm paying special attention to:

Jville - Nyn "kinda liked", but admitted she didn't have much experience. 

Stark (claimed town bookie)  - "Didn't remember much from"

Beaver (claimed town restless spirit) - "Didn't remember much from"

Which one of these guys was feeling the most heat from Drums and Barry? 

 

[Stark]

36 minutes ago, DPR said:

If we assume that the SK knows his apprentice, then this is the fist Cult kill - which makes perfect sense because Lee would not want Nyn zeroing in on her, and Hess would want this read to be her last as well.

But, more importantly, her reads regarding the rest of the game were pretty good and we know they were genuine.

I'm still looking at this through my "a newer player is more likely to whack Drums and Barry" scope, (which matches up with a 7th round draft pick) so I'm paying special attention to:

Jville - Nyn "kinda liked", but admitted she didn't have much experience. 

Stark (claimed town bookie)  - "Didn't remember much from"

Beaver (claimed town restless spirit) - "Didn't remember much from"

Which one of these guys was feeling the most heat from Drums and Barry? 

You’re thinking the last is one of

me, jville, beaver 

I don’t think anyone was really being pressured by either drums or Barry I need to go look back. I should be able to look more In about an hour 

[JustInFudge]

52 minutes ago, DPR said:

If we assume that the SK knows his apprentice, then this is the fist Cult kill - which makes perfect sense because Lee would not want Nyn zeroing in on her, and Hess would want this read to be her last as well.

But, more importantly, her reads regarding the rest of the game were pretty good and we know they were genuine.

I'm still looking at this through my "a newer player is more likely to whack Drums and Barry" scope, (which matches up with a 7th round draft pick) so I'm paying special attention to:

Jville - Nyn "kinda liked", but admitted she didn't have much experience. 

Stark (claimed town bookie)  - "Didn't remember much from"

Beaver (claimed town restless spirit) - "Didn't remember much from"

Which one of these guys was feeling the most heat from Drums and Barry? 

 

Jville put some solid investigation work in Lee's and her tracks.  I'll look back at it again but it would have been a bold move a recruited cult to go that route, that said, he could have been posturing it a bit, so I'll see how if feel in retrospect but I've felt very good about him to this point. 

Of all the claims we've had, Stark was the sloppiest.  It was similar to JC's in the sense that he floated something very broad and made us start asking questions before giving us all the detail.  I'm not even sure we ever got an explanation on what a bookie could do but rather, that he had the ability to earn.  That could be perceived as trying to gain town favor, similar to how JC just did with his vest from the porno review.

Not sure what to make of Beavers reveal in hindsight.  He clearly didnt think he revealed and he didnt but the way he said, "no power" only to have a power, at first, I thought it was clever, in retrospect, why did he wait till the next day phase to give us the rest of his "power".

Worthy of a look back...

[JustInFudge]

Just a quick recap before I look back and end up dead or something;

DPR - #townAF

AVM - feeling quite townie

Jville - has the feel of a townie

Beaver - maybe town

Stark - maybe not town

Verb - probably not town

 

[Verbal]

I would have sworn JC was cult and not SK.  I actually believed that reveal and just thought him converted due to how his play changed up.

[Verbal]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

Just a quick recap before I look back and end up dead or something;

DPR - #townAF

AVM - feeling quite townie

Jville - has the feel of a townie

Beaver - maybe town

Stark - maybe not town

Verb - probably not town

 

Can you make up your mind?  You thought I was scum, you changed your mind, you thought I was scum and voted me, then said you liked my reveal for town and now I'm back to being not town.

 

FML

[JustInFudge]

On 4/19/2020 at 2:46 PM, jvill 51 said:

Ok, so just read back through Lee's game.

Here's the last reads list. Everything after is screenshots, was just easier to do it that way rather than sift through 100+ pages and multi-quoting.

If the choice was Lizzie or Stark she'd choose Lizzie.

 

Me, AVM, JiF, and Stark stay consistent from her earlier reads to her last reads list. Interestingly JC would later move from an early "could vote" to a later "probably town".

 

 Interaction with Stark here. Thinks they're on the same page. Buddying maybe?

 

JC was in her early top 3 scum.

 

Verb was reading her as scum early, says he reads her as well as anybody by D2 or D3. Wish he was around yesterday to see if that read had changed.

 

JC was a top 3 scum read early and a "could vote", now he's a hard one to read. I checked the timing of this post and it came a few minutes after Pac paused the voting. Successful conversion would follow.

 

Defends me here.

 

Endorses JiF's plan to lynch Lizzie or Drums. Throws in some stuff to feed the ego. Then votes Drums. I read this more as ego-feeding JiF and adding momentum to a plan that would see two townies get lynched than actual coordination between Lee and JiF. Drums' top 2 scum reads were Lee and JC. There's also the weird voting DPR because he read SMC as town thing.

 

Some more shade on SMC, but again uses that to throw shade on DPR.

 

 

On 4/19/2020 at 2:53 PM, jvill 51 said:

Vote JC

I want to read back on his game now to see if that sways me but the way Lee's read on him flipped with minimal explanation right as a conversion was going down is suspicious enough right now.

Here was Jville work based on Lee's reads.  He ended up with JC, who was the SK, so all in all it was good work but looking back, this doesnt absolve him from being recruited.  

If we to still analyze Lee's "reads" - she put 4 people still left alive in her town pile.  Me, Jville, AVM, Stark

That said, the entire "whiny bitch" category lol was all town and contains Verb.

Her "no feels" has - DPR (town AF) and Beaver (?) but AJ was in that group too....

 

[Stark]

On 4/19/2020 at 1:44 PM, Stark said:

Im not scum. AND remember how I said you should take your reads and flip them 180 degrees, and then you would be decent at mafia. That statement still holds true. 

its not just today, its almost always the weekends. at least someone read this stuff. 

 

I am the town Bookie. I can earn 1 of 2 advantages in the game if I play my role correctly. 

 

 

On 4/19/2020 at 2:33 PM, Stark said:

I’m at L-2. I’m definitely town and we can only have 2 reveals per day. I though I was the first but it looks like PAC is counting beavers. I’m just trying to be as helpful to town as I can in this circumstance. Not trying to appear to be hiding anything or misleading. 

i can’t earn my advantage if I’m dead. jville had just asked about my role and I confirmed it. I am limited with it so I haven’t used it yet. I have to guess the next lynched player correctly. If so I can choose between 2 advantages. 
 

im about to be back outside with the boys.  I’ll try to get back in a few hours. 

 

On 4/20/2020 at 8:21 AM, Stark said:

sheesh man chill... just getting caught up. Wife is at hospital, having babies checked (nothing wrong just ultrasound) and I have both kids this AM while working on a project for work.

The Town Bookie advantages I can earn if I predict the next lynch correctly is one of the 2: A Vest, or 1 player investigation. It IS a 1 time use/attempt

 

18 minutes ago, JiF said:

Jville put some solid investigation work in Lee's and her tracks.  I'll look back at it again but it would have been a bold move a recruited cult to go that route, that said, he could have been posturing it a bit, so I'll see how if feel in retrospect but I've felt very good about him to this point. 

Of all the claims we've had, Stark was the sloppiest.  It was similar to JC's in the sense that he floated something very broad and made us start asking questions before giving us all the detail.  I'm not even sure we ever got an explanation on what a bookie could do but rather, that he had the ability to earn.  That could be perceived as trying to gain town favor, similar to how JC just did with his vest from the porno review.

Not sure what to make of Beavers reveal in hindsight.  He clearly didnt think he revealed and he didnt but the way he said, "no power" only to have a power, at first, I thought it was clever, in retrospect, why did he wait till the next day phase to give us the rest of his "power".

Worthy of a look back...

above is my reveal...  @JiF  i got to L-2 on the weekend which i am notoriously low activity on. 

 

I predicted correctly on JC's lynch and earned the Vest or investigate. 

[JustInFudge]

 

21 minutes ago, Verbal said:

Can you make up your mind?  You thought I was scum, you changed your mind, you thought I was scum and voted me, then said you liked my reveal for town and now I'm back to being not town.

 

FML

I have trust issues. 

[Stark]

be back in 15 min or so

[Verbal]

4 minutes ago, JiF said:

 

I have trust issues. 

I didn't expect a response, and this one got me to lol.

[DPR]

44 minutes ago, JiF said:

Jville put some solid investigation work in Lee's and her tracks.  I'll look back at it again but it would have been a bold move a recruited cult to go that route, that said, he could have been posturing it a bit, so I'll see how if feel in retrospect but I've felt very good about him to this point. 

Of all the claims we've had, Stark was the sloppiest.  It was similar to JC's in the sense that he floated something very broad and made us start asking questions before giving us all the detail.  I'm not even sure we ever got an explanation on what a bookie could do but rather, that he had the ability to earn.  That could be perceived as trying to gain town favor, similar to how JC just did with his vest from the porno review.

Not sure what to make of Beavers reveal in hindsight.  He clearly didnt think he revealed and he didnt but the way he said, "no power" only to have a power, at first, I thought it was clever, in retrospect, why did he wait till the next day phase to give us the rest of his "power".

Worthy of a look back...

Because we're looking for a recruit, reveals are less important - they can just reveal the role they were given as town to begin with. 

I'm leaning more down the "figure this out by logic road " combined with "were there any shifts in play style" to figure it out.

The cult tried to recruit 7 people total, and hit success on person #4 and person #7. I don't feel like AJ was pick #7 - I've got him at #4, so that means they were choosing from a pool of 17 players (Gata & Nolder were already gone I think, and Lee & Hess made up the other 2). So what 7 would they choose out of the 16? I'm guessing they would start with players whose games they knew because that would give them the best chance of winning. Brb with that list...

[AVM]

On 4/21/2020 at 9:22 AM, AVM said:

Stall vs Final for GATA:

Stalled - Gata (9) - Lizzie, AJ*, Jvill, Drums, Stark, Beaver, Leelou, AVM, Hess
Final - Gata (12) - Lizzie, jvill, Stark, Leelou, AVM, Nolder, JIF, 80, CTM, AJ*, SMC, JC

Stall vs Final for Lizzie:

Stalled - Lizzie (7) - Nyn, AVM, Verbal, JC, 80, Beaver, JIF (Hess was also here at the stall)
Final - Lizzie (10) - Nyn, AVM, Verbal, JC, 80, Beaver, Hess, JIF, CTM, SMC

Final for Leelou:

Leelou (8) - CTM, JIF, DPR, 80, Leelou, Barry, Jvill, Drums

Final for 80: 80 (1) - JIF, Barry, DPR, Verb, Boozer, AVM

*I kept AJ as blue because he was town at the time of the D1 votes

Notes:

• Boozers first appearance on any train stalled or final was 80s death
• Starks only appearance on the final stalled and final Gata train - so just one of the 4
• JiF the most common, only not on the original stalled train of Gata
• Agreed that it's damn near impossible for jville to be cult, SK still possible
• Highly doubt that JiF or DPR are cult based on that placement + a Leelou self-vote
• There were only 4 non-town roles during Gata's lynch...so at the stall there were 2 - both the cult. hard to imagine the SK duo avoided it the entire day

High priority to ISO Nyn's limited posts to try and pin down the SK better because I didn't find that overly helpful. Do think it narrows down our convert pool though. I'll ISO Nyn after I do some work, but I have been in this thread to start the day lol

 

12 hours ago, Pac said:

Final Vote Count:

JC (5) - Beaver, Verbal, DPR, JVill, JiF

DPR (1) - JC

 

 

 

 

[AVM]

Stall vs Final for GATA:

Stalled - Gata (9) - Lizzie, AJ*, Jvill, Drums, Stark, Beaver, Leelou, AVM, Hess
Final - Gata (12) - Lizzie, jvill, Stark, Leelou, AVM, Nolder, JIF, 80, CTM, AJ*, SMC, JC

Stall vs Final for Lizzie:

Stalled - Lizzie (7) - Nyn, AVM, Verbal, JC, 80, Beaver, JIF (Hess was also here at the stall)
Final - Lizzie (10) - Nyn, AVM, Verbal, JC, 80, Beaver, Hess, JIF, CTM, SMC

Final for Leelou: Leelou (8) - CTM, JIF, DPR, 80, Leelou, Barry, Jvill, Drums

Final for 80: 80 (1) - JIF, Barry, DPR, Verb, Boozer, AVM

Final for JC: JC (5) - Beaver, Verbal, DPR, JVill, JiF

*I kept AJ as blue because he was town at the time of the D1 votes

 

Presented without comment for now.

[Pac]

Multiple things still not in so game will start at noon.

 

[Stark]

i have a call to sit in on at 9:30 CST and then a meeting at 11. i need put in my NA

If anyone wants to list their top 2 as of now I will consider changing who i investigate.

[JustInFudge]

21 minutes ago, DPR said:

Because we're looking for a recruit, reveals are less important - they can just reveal the role they were given as town to begin with. 

I'm leaning more down the "figure this out by logic road " combined with "were there any shifts in play style" to figure it out.

The cult tried to recruit 7 people total, and hit success on person #4 and person #7. I don't feel like AJ was pick #7 - I've got him at #4, so that means they were choosing from a pool of 17 players (Gata & Nolder were already gone I think, and Lee & Hess made up the other 2). So what 7 would they choose out of the 16? I'm guessing they would start with players whose games they knew because that would give them the best chance of winning. Brb with that list...

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