Charlie Brown Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Look the time for Sam Darnold is probably over, period. That isn’t the issue to me. The question that has to be asked is what are JD & Saleh looking at when they review the Jets team at least on the offensive side of the ball? Below aren’t Sam Clips, the review comes from the time when Sam was out so that is refreshing but they show why we can be better next year regardless of who is the QB. I like this guys take. Also to me pay attention to the Mahomes comment in here, it is important 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 This is the kind of stuff that makes me think keep Sam, but get an insurance policy. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: This is the kind of stuff that makes me think keep Sam, but get an insurance policy. That’s only because he wasn’t playing. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 I usually hate these videos, but that was really good. I like that his conclusion was that the talent level on the team was so bad that it was unfair for those dudes to be asked to go out and pretend to be starting caliber players. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Look the time for Sam Darnold is probably over, period. That isn’t the issue to me. The question that has to be asked is what are JD & Saleh looking at when they review the Jets team at least on the offensive side of the ball? Beliw aren’t Sam Clips, the review comes from the time when Sam was out so that is refreshing but they show why we can be better next year regardless of who is the QB. I like this guys take. Also to me pay attention to the Mahomes comment in here, it is important Thanks for depressing me CB! Well no talent and no coaching at least leaves room for improvement. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I usually hate these videos, but that was really good. I like that his conclusion was that the talent level on the team was so bad that it was unfair for those dudes to be asked to go out and pretend to be starting caliber players. And that because bad coaching on top of depth players being asked to be starters the players get blamed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post peekskill68 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 The disaster here is that we burned two years of Darnold's rookie deal fielding this dreck. Even if he can be turned around, how can you take the gamble? We're literally an expansion team at this stage... 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And that because bad coaching on top of depth players being asked to be starters the players get blamed. Gase was obviously bad, but—as the video points out—the underlying issue with the Jets is and will be Maccagnan until the roster is flipped. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Someone forward this video to Todd Bowles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Gase was obviously bad, but—as the video points out—the underlying issue with the Jets is and will be Maccagnan until the roster is flipped. At some point this becomes JD's team. He put out that garbage this year. He made a lot of choices and most of them bad. Now, I really, really hope he understood that he had to truly flip the roster and accepted last season as a throw away - and signed the crap he signed with full knowledge of what he was putting on the field. I really have to believe that because the alternative is frightening. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 I could honestly see us making a go with Sam plus adding Brissett or Beathard as a backup with starting experience, and Morgan. Not sexy, but very pragmatic. Brissett and Beathard can take over for the year if Sam bombs. Meaning, bad Sam doesn’t equal lost season. Then we take proper steps to get a QB next year. Or, we see Sam can hang and roll. In the meantime, we have a mountain of resources to build a great team. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 minute ago, FidelioJet said: At some point this is becomes JD's team. He put out that garbage this year. He made a lot of choices and most of them bad. Now, I really, really hope he understood that he had to truly flip the roster and accepted last season as a throw away - and signed the crap he signed with full knowledge of what he was putting on the field. I really have to believe that because the alternative is frightening. Douglas needs immediate starters from FA and this draft. Like a lot of them. Players who score touchdowns preferably. Another last place finish and patience will wear thin. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 42 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I usually hate these videos, but that was really good. I like that his conclusion was that the talent level on the team was so bad that it was unfair for those dudes to be asked to go out and pretend to be starting caliber players. That, and the coaching was in fact so bad that the whole league PLUS the guy in his dorm room realize cover 1 could shut down the entire Gase offense. Not designed for receivers to be open. Yeesh. Gore 2 yards... getting more than what was there? Yeesh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Gase was obviously bad, but—as the video points out—the underlying issue with the Jets is and will be Maccagnan until the roster is flipped. 1A 1B I never understand why our fans treat blame like a zero sum game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Charlie Brown said: Look the time for Sam Darnold is probably over, period. That isn’t the issue to me. The question that has to be asked is what are JD & Saleh looking at when they review the Jets team at least on the offensive side of the ball? Beliw aren’t Sam Clips, the review comes from the time when Sam was out so that is refreshing but they show why we can be better next year regardless of who is the QB. I like this guys take. Also to me pay attention to the Mahomes comment in here, it is important Listening to this guy had me contemplate beating my dog! That voice is enough to make me jump out my bedroom window..... very annoying. reminds me of this guy...... God rest his soul. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: 1A 1B I never understand why our fans treat blame like a zero sum game. The post you quoted opens with “Gase was obviously bad” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Now, I really, really hope he understood that he had to truly flip the roster and accepted last season as a throw away - and signed the crap he signed with full knowledge of what he was putting on the field. Judging by the contracts he gave out, he was fully aware of how bad the team was and how far away they were. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Judging by the contracts he gave out, he was fully aware of how bad the team was and how far away they were. Yes, I agree. Which is why I still feel like he's such an unknown at this point. He did what he had to do - it was the right way to just suck it up and remove the Mac stench. But he needs to deliver this year - this off-season will tell us a lot. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Gase was obviously bad, but—as the video points out—the underlying issue with the Jets is and will be Maccagnan until the roster is flipped. The 2020 NY Jets really doubled down on the recipe to sucking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Yes, I agree. Which is why I still feel like he's such an unknown at this point. He did what he had to do - it was the right way to just suck it up and remove the Mac stench. But he needs to deliver this year - this off-season will tell us a lot. The ability to do what everyone knew he should do, the power and security he has with the Jets to be allowed to follow through with the plan we all know should have been done years ago is telling 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The Ryan Griffen pick had me in tears I was laughing so hard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Gase was obviously bad, but—as the video points out—the underlying issue with the Jets is and will be Maccagnan until the roster is flipped. With all the deserved criticism that Macc receives.... Joe Douglas fielded a roster that legitimately had the potential to be only the 3rd team ever to go 0-16. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 This is why , unless you are really positive about one of these rookie QBs, you have to build this roster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, oatmeal said: With all the deserved criticism that Macc receives.... Joe Douglas fielded a roster that legitimately had the potential to be only the 3rd team ever to go 0-16. If you don't think that was the plan from day #1, I don't know what to tell you. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Trade down from 2 if you can and pickup additional high picks over the next couple of years. The roster is a disastah. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Sadly, here is something that both JD and Saleh will have to look at. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, peekskill68 said: The disaster here is that we burned two years of Darnold's rookie deal fielding this dreck. Even if he can be turned around, how can you take the gamble? We're literally an expansion team at this stage... you can take the gamble unless they got for a really good vet because like it or not, darnold has 3 seasons of nfl experience. his coaching was bad so maybe he doesn't know as much as he should but whatever he has learned is that much more than what a rookie would have. that counts for something. the thing too is if the jets were picking somewhere in the 5-10 range would we even be discussing a top rookie prospect? would douglas move up the spots needed to get wilson or fields? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Look the time for Sam Darnold is probably over, period. That isn’t the issue to me. The question that has to be asked is what are JD & Saleh looking at when they review the Jets team at least on the offensive side of the ball? Beliw aren’t Sam Clips, the review comes from the time when Sam was out so that is refreshing but they show why we can be better next year regardless of who is the QB. I like this guys take. Also to me pay attention to the Mahomes comment in here, it is important depressing video. But it's the truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Thanks for depressing me CB! Well no talent and no coaching at least leaves room for improvement. nowhere to go but up. But again.... it's the NY Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dcat said: nowhere to go but up. But again.... it's the NY Jets. Dante’s 7 levels of hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Dcat said: depressing video. But it's the truth. If Watson saw that video he's going to Miami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DetroitRed Posted February 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2021 But Josh Allen is gods gift. Stepon Diggs gets open more than my ex. He’s a machine. He had, by far, the most targets in the NFL last year. Kinda helps QB production 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Dcat said: depressing video. But it's the truth. Couple this with Gase not doing pre-snap motion, not permitting the QB to make adjustments at the OL and actually running the wrong schemes for the defenses being played, and it is absolutely amazing we won any games. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Savage69 said: If Watson saw that video he's going to Miami Sucking from the 90's through 2019 and finally showing signs of turning it around in 2020 isnt a real strong selling point. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, section314 said: The Ryan Griffen pick had me in tears I was laughing so hard. IMO that’s on the players. It’s on them for not understanding a simple route concept and for not giving a fck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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