RobR Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Paradis said: You can access some here-- https://www.hudl.com/profile/9568237/Nate-McCrary his agent reached out to me with some workout drills tape but it's in a weird format. That's some rough video to watch but I come away unimpressed. He has some shiftiness but I never saw a spin move or a great jump cut and most of the time he ran to open space which doesn't cut it in the NFL. In that highlight video I believe he caught only 1 pass so that should be reason for concern. And last but not least, half of those games looks like he is playing against a HS team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 48 minutes ago, RobR said: That's some rough video to watch but I come away unimpressed. He has some shiftiness but I never saw a spin move or a great jump cut and most of the time he ran to open space which doesn't cut it in the NFL. In that highlight video I believe he caught only 1 pass so that should be reason for concern. And last but not least, half of those games looks like he is playing against a HS team. Your skepticism is noted. I see some of that mojo that hasn’t steered me wrong yet. you should really chime in on the backs this year. Like to hear your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, maury77 said: I've gotten to the point on Twitter where I use Paradis's tweets as evidence on Dyami Brown. 2021 man ..... lol, that post with the break down of missed contested balls was damning. I'm not as high on Brown as I was for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 19 hours ago, Jets Voice of Reason said: I like Elijah Moore as well. If we're not doing the QB thing, I just want Pitts + Rondale Moore to give us the best and deepest receiving group we've ever had filled with freak athletes. But if we don't go that route, I like Elijah Moore, Darden, and Demetric Felton as mid or late round guys. Is 23 too early for Rondale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 17 hours ago, football guy said: I'm in the minority, but I think he goes much higher than people expect. Could even go 3rd overall. I know there's some character stuff but it may be overblown. people I have talked to have said similar, they think he's far and away the best defensive player in this draft and say he's an all pro. Ive heard legit top 5 talk from a few people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 15 hours ago, Paradis said: If i gave y'all the impression i hate Moore, then that's my bad. I have a habit of pushing back on players i think are getting too much unwarranted love, and that often comes across like I dislike the player. Ex. Hakeem Butler, I really didn't think he was a first round guy and got into with a lot of Butler lovers, but i still the liked the prospect. I'll say it if i mean it - ie. I hate JJAW. I like Elijah but he is just a slot WR, and I thought he got bullied around at times. There's a lot of love this year for guys who (as far as I see it) Can't do much but play inside. Catching a slant uncovered and wiggling past a couple LBs and Safeties who'll never see an NFL workout isn't enough to win me over. Moore will get over drafted probably. Round 3 for those that love him. Round 4-5 for me. Here's a guy I don't like. Dyami Brown. Wouldn't draft him. fair assessment, and yeah to me he's purely a slot guy. little versatility with motioning him around and some orbit stuff, but he's pretty much going to stick in the slot. Which to me is fine. When I look at WR's I dont necessarily look at them to say "ok this guy is good inside or outside". Thats part of it, but really when I watch film, im purely looking at footwork, moves, seperation, route appex, break points, release moves, and ball catching ability. When I looked at moores game film it was pretty good saw some nice things, but the practice film I saw where he was running routes that he didnt run in game.. That was more impressive to me than anything and why I like him more. Again 3-4th round for me nothing crazy, but if you miss out on one moore you could take the other and still get a good player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, Chrebetfan80 said: people I have talked to have said similar, they think he's far and away the best defensive player in this draft and say he's an all pro. Ive heard legit top 5 talk from a few people Yup. Miami is going to screw up everyone's mock drafts this year and I have a feeling it will be by selecting Parsons. We'll see. This is a weird year too because all the offensive talent is being overrated a bit. It's a weaker defensive class but I think Parsons, Surtain, Horn, Farley, and Oweh all could go in the top 10. It sounds cliche, but I really do think this draft is going to be unpredictable. We're going to see players that draftniks have in the 3rd-4th going in the 1st, and we're going to see players they have in the 1st going in the 3rd-4th. I think it's also much harder for teams to figure out what league consensuses are because scouts aren't allowed to acquire information the old fashioned way like they used to. I can just use myself as an example: I get the most info when I'm out drinking with people in the know... over text there's more resistance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, football guy said: Yup. Miami is going to screw up everyone's mock drafts this year and I have a feeling it will be by selecting Parsons. We'll see. This is a weird year too because all the offensive talent is being overrated a bit. It's a weaker defensive class but I think Parsons, Surtain, Horn, Farley, and Oweh all could go in the top 10. It sounds cliche, but I really do think this draft is going to be unpredictable. We're going to see players that draftniks have in the 3rd-4th going in the 1st, and we're going to see players they have in the 1st going in the 3rd-4th. I think it's also much harder for teams to figure out what league consensuses are because scouts aren't allowed to acquire information the old fashioned way like they used to. I can just use myself as an example: I get the most info when I'm out drinking with people in the know... over text there's more resistance. I think with just lack of eye level contact with these players, its going to be more on scouts watching film and their perception. Film sometimes is misleading and there are kids I have loved on film and then seen in person where i was like meh. So its going to be really interesting because we're going to really see whose front offices can do the best breakdowns and find the best value. Especially in the later rounds. I also think there will be more over drafting of certian guys early. Teams saying "we Know we like this kid, just take him now because later in this draft I'm less certain about players". We'll see its going to be a really interesting draft this year for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: Is 23 too early for Rondale? I don't think so. The only thing stopping him from being a surefire first rounder is the injury history and his size. He's fast, agile, has good hands and has great lower body strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, football guy said: Yup. Miami is going to screw up everyone's mock drafts this year and I have a feeling it will be by selecting Parsons. We'll see. This is a weird year too because all the offensive talent is being overrated a bit. It's a weaker defensive class but I think Parsons, Surtain, Horn, Farley, and Oweh all could go in the top 10. It sounds cliche, but I really do think this draft is going to be unpredictable. We're going to see players that draftniks have in the 3rd-4th going in the 1st, and we're going to see players they have in the 1st going in the 3rd-4th. I think it's also much harder for teams to figure out what league consensuses are because scouts aren't allowed to acquire information the old fashioned way like they used to. I can just use myself as an example: I get the most info when I'm out drinking with people in the know... over text there's more resistance. Whatever GM selects Oweh in the top 10 should be fired, pro day results be damned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, football guy said: Yup. Miami is going to screw up everyone's mock drafts this year and I have a feeling it will be by selecting Parsons. We'll see. Man I hope they do, passing on the top offensive weapons and sewel or even a QB for a LB would be pure idiocy that would be based on totally recency bias of Tampa having a great LB and being successful. Please by all means Miami take this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Paradis said: Your skepticism is noted. I see some of that mojo that hasn’t steered me wrong yet. you should really chime in on the backs this year. Like to hear your thoughts. We were on the same page last year with Robinson but I just don't see it with this guy. I haven't watched many of the guys in this class but I really like what I saw from Stephenson, even with his poor forty time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, RobR said: We were on the same page last year with Robinson but I just don't see it with this guy. I haven't watched many of the guys in this class but I really like what I saw from Stephenson, even with his poor forty time. He reminds of Jeff Wilson at North Texas. Didn't really get any traction with that one either when I tried. I am really not excited about any of the class this year; RB, WR, TE... they all have nice top shelf talents and then meh. Especially RB... after those top 5 or 6 - gross. Do not like Hill, Jefferson, Herbert, Hubbard, Hawkins... Even guys like Boyd who I was high on disappointed this year. It's Williams, Harris, Etienne, Gainwell, Carter, Stevenson.... and then cliff. McCrary is one of the only UDFA/late flier guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 There were other pro days other than the QB. Phil Savage went to see Virginia Tech instead of BYU. So they have interest in some one there. Darrisaw is a good tackle prospect and Farley isn’t running but is in attendance. I really like Divine Deablo who would be a stud dime backer/ WLB/ Safety. He’s a guy I try to get in mocks at around round 5. Hey look it’s Divine Deablo again. I need him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Here’s Elijah Moore. His agility is insane. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Slot and gadget guys for days!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I liked Palmer at the senior bowl. Smith is such a question mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Oh **** off Kwity Paye not running the agility drills. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 hours ago, maury77 said: Whatever GM selects Oweh in the top 10 should be fired, pro day results be damned. Same with any cb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Oh **** off Kwity Paye not running the agility drills. Watching him bench 225 36 times was amazing. Bet a beer he's the 1st defensive guy taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, section314 said: Same with any cb. Ehhhh I think Surtain may go top 10 after that pro day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 5 hours ago, kdels62 said: Oh **** off Kwity Paye not running the agility drills. So much for Bruce Feldman's alleged 3 cone on Paye. Nico Collins allegedly had a nice day too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 15 hours ago, football guy said: Yup. Miami is going to screw up everyone's mock drafts this year and I have a feeling it will be by selecting Parsons. We'll see. This is a weird year too because all the offensive talent is being overrated a bit. It's a weaker defensive class but I think Parsons, Surtain, Horn, Farley, and Oweh all could go in the top 10. It sounds cliche, but I really do think this draft is going to be unpredictable. We're going to see players that draftniks have in the 3rd-4th going in the 1st, and we're going to see players they have in the 1st going in the 3rd-4th. I think it's also much harder for teams to figure out what league consensuses are because scouts aren't allowed to acquire information the old fashioned way like they used to. I can just use myself as an example: I get the most info when I'm out drinking with people in the know... over text there's more resistance. Miami might still be able to get Parsons at 6, though I kinda see them going with Pitts or Chase for Tua. Or trade down the only thing off the board at that point other than QB might be OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 7 hours ago, maury77 said: So much for Bruce Feldman's alleged 3 cone on Paye. Nico Collins allegedly had a nice day too. Nico, Ambry & Mason... guys I have linked to the Jets... see what happens in 40+ days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 hours ago, jetsons said: Nico, Ambry & Mason... guys I have linked to the Jets... see what happens in 40+ days. I'm intrigued by Mason given that the Jets new offense is going to feature a FB, but I really don't know a lot about him as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 @Paradis I'll keep my Fields pro day comments here, the landing strip is like the Port Authority bathroom on this subject, useful if you have to take an emergency sh!t, but otherwise to be avoided at all costs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Big day today for University of MiamiSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 1 hour ago, maury77 said: Big day today for University of Miami Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk One of those I'm looking forward to for sure. Just hope everyone runs their agility drills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Miami and UNC pro days today. Watching to see those NC RB's & Receivers, and I want to see how Brevin Jordan tests out for the U. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 If Dyami Brown is good, I want you to remember that before all these pundits said anything, it was I who loved his game. If he busts then forget I said anything 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Nobody with a crazy athletic profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Rousseau is tumbling down draft boards. He needs a good day. Jaelan Phillips is still perfect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, kdels62 said: Rousseau is tumbling down draft boards. He needs a good day. Jaelan Phillips is still perfect. NFL teams or Mock drafts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, C Mart said: NFL teams or Mock drafts? Mock drafts since NFL teams usually don’t broadcast their draft boards. The buzz usually coincides with professional consensus in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Bad start for Rousseau Oof Rousseau might be tumbling out of the 2nd round. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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