sec101row23 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, maury77 said: Fields ran ever so slightly slower than I expected, I really thought he was going to get into the 4.3s. Still the fastest time for a QB since RG3 and the 2nd fastest since 2006. It’s hard to break 4.4 when you are almost 230 pounds, especially if you are a QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Good numbers for Alim McNeil who I think will sneak into day 2 and be a good IDL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I loved Cam Sample at the Senior Bowl. He can rush from outside and inside he’d work well in our scheme. Patrick Johnson is also an edge rusher but he’s more OLB than DE. Once again here’s Carl Lawson for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Keith Taylor had a nice senior bowl and has great size. Late round cover 3 guy definitely seems like a JD type. Molden is so good but he’s physically limited. I think JD really likes Guidry so I’d be shocked if we go for him. I hate Joe Tryon but those are really good numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Any more workout #'s from Baron Browning? I saw the 40 time but I haven't seen anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Any more workout #'s from Baron Browning? I saw the 40 time but I haven't seen anything else. I’m trying to get the OSU numbers but everyone seems to have been distracted by Fields. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Not bad from my preferred OSU linebacker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Jim Nagy is a godsend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Good looks on Werner and Browning. Bad looks on Hilliard and Borland. I really like Jonathon Cooper’s potential. I’d draft Tommy Togiai. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Here’s the measurables on Davis, Wade and Meyers. I’m down on all 3 but they’re all draftable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, kdels62 said: Here’s the measurables on Davis, Wade and Meyers. I’m down on all 3 but they’re all draftable. I think Davis is gonna be a good one, but I haven’t decided how high of a pick I’m ok with just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, kdels62 said: Here’s the measurables on Davis, Wade and Meyers. I’m down on all 3 but they’re all draftable. Davis and Wade both had disappointing seasons and now neither of them tested in the speed and agility drills. I wonder if Davis will be there in the 3rd. I think if you can grab Wade in the 3rd or 4th round and play him at nickel (where he excelled prior to this season) it might be a good pickup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kdels62 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I get the Ja’marr Chase thing. But that LSU turf is insanely fast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I get the Ja’marr Chase thing. But that LSU turf is insanely fast. That doesn't explain the vert or broad jump, though, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Pitts 4.44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: That doesn't explain the vert or broad jump, though, right? Of course not. I love Ja’marr Chase. His short area bust and explosion definitely translates, idk if that 4.38 does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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football guy Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, C Mart said: That wingspan! That's Mekhi Becton-like... longest wingspan of any TE or WR in the NFL. 40-time: 4.44 V-jump: 33.5" B-jump: 10'9" Bench: 22 reps We're talking about Calvin Johnson-esque with him. I don't see how Atlanta can pass him at #4. Matt Ryan can play for another 5 years with those weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football guy Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, football guy said: That wingspan! That's Mekhi Becton-like... longest wingspan of any TE or WR in the NFL. 40-time: 4.44 V-jump: 33.5" B-jump: 10'9" Bench: 22 reps We're talking about Calvin Johnson-esque with him. I don't see how Atlanta can pass him at #4. Matt Ryan can play for another 5 years with those weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 It really sucks we need a qb because Pitts has HoF potential written all over him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 47 minutes ago, kdels62 said: I get the Ja’marr Chase thing. But that LSU turf is insanely fast. I have to rewatch his tape. I didn't see this type of athlete on the tape, but I could have been wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrebetfan80 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 38 minutes ago, maury77 said: I have to rewatch his tape. I didn't see this type of athlete on the tape, but I could have been wrong. athletically I knew he'd test well, I saw a really good athlete when I watched him Burrows year. But I never thought he'd be a 4.3 guy. He got deep a ton, but It never looked like he was burning at those speeds. Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Jamin Davis 40 yard times are all over the place. Have seen 4.41, 4.49 and 4.37 reported. Yeah, he's going late second round at worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 I'm sorry I'm not buying these 40 times. Everyone and their mother is running 4.4 or less. Are they even running a full 40 yards or is it 36-37 yards? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Aren't teams going to be allowed to have individual workouts? If so, re time them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 33 minutes ago, section314 said: Aren't teams going to be allowed to have individual workouts? If so, re time them. I do not believe so. Just zoom calls and pro days at colleges. And medicals are next week 4/8-4/10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 A later round alternative for TE? 2021 NFL Draft: From Division II punter to NFL tight end, the most intriguing prospect you've never heard of Zach Davidson is the 2021 draft's best-kept secret Would you believe me if I told you that one of the most intriguing tight end prospects in the 2021 NFL Draft -- arguably one of the most fascinating draftees regardless of position -- never caught footballs in games with any regularity until his senior year in tiny Webb City, Missouri? What if I told you that, had the punter on the Webb City JV team not been suspended midseason seven years ago, this young man -- now a 6-foot-7, 246 pound specimen -- almost certainly never plays college football in any capacity, let alone end up wowing NFL scouts as an invitee to Missouri's pro day. Would you buy it? Or what about this -- Zach Davidson was only recruited by Division II or NAIA schools as a punter, but is now counting down the days until he hears his name called draft weekend as tight end. How about this: Davidson is less than five years removed from redshirting for the Division II Central Missouri Mules, and caught just 11 passes for them prior to a breakout 2019 season in which he was an All-American punter and tight end. And, despite being stripped of his entire senior season due to the pandemic, Davidson more than held his own at a premier pre-draft training center in South Florida with some of the best receivers, tight ends and running backs from the ACC this winter before crushing that pro day. Oh yeah, and he still hones his punting three days a week -- booming balls with ease -- and is teaching himself to long snap (he is a self-taught punter) and maybe to place hold, too. He could be one of the rarest breeds of hybrid player in the NFL ever (oh yeah, he's worked out as an H-back, as well). Trust me. It's all legit. This kid is a secret no longer in personnel rooms across the league after he flashed elite speed, quickness and athleticism at his pro day a week ago (Davidson's 37 ½-inch vertical would have been tops among all tight ends in the 2020 combine, and his 4.62 40-yard dash and 6.95 three-cone drill would have ranked second among everyone at his position a year ago, but they aren't 6-foot-7). Davidson himself finds all of this difficult to comprehend at times, fully aware of the uniqueness of his story; the amazing confluence of continuous hard work and bizarre circumstances renders him both humbled and overwhelmed by the NFL attention. He's gone from an unknown, D-II punter, to perhaps an un-drafted free agent to someone now projected by many teams to go possibly as high as the end of day two of the draft (late fourth round). "It's been a helluva ride so far," Davidson said after another recent pre-draft workout back at in Webb City (population 11,000). "And I know my road is not done yet." I see the kid move around the field and say he's a little different. Being 6-7, with those long levers, it was amazing how strong he was." Davidson spent his redshirt sophomore year "learning the position more and gaining a real appreciate for the strength and agility required to play it." Svoboda has coached five All-American tight ends at Central Missouri -- never one quite as freakish and complete as this -- and, he says, if he had his druthers, "I'd run 1-2 personnel (two tight ends) 90% of the time." Davidson played roughly 90% of the snaps as a junior, dominating as the top tight end in Division II, earning five All-American Awards. He finished in the top 10 in receiving touchdowns (15) and yards per catch (22.35!), setting school records with 225 yards against Missouri Western and catching four touchdowns in another game. He caught just 40 balls in all, however, despite his prowess, in a limited passing attack (over a third of his receptions were for a score). In the meantime, he was also one of college football's best punters, with 48 punts averaging 40.3 yards, while also downing 19 punts inside the oppositions 20, with nine traveling 50 yards or more. "In our offense, with what we run, this kid wasn't going to have great stats," Svoboda said. "He only caught a handful of balls in his career, but he is a helluva athlete. … And he hasn't been afraid at all to be an out-in-front guy for us. He's a true leader and he's always willing to do the work." To say that 2020 would have been massive for Davidson would be an understatement. He needed all the film he could possibly get for NFL teams given where he was playing (and even more so considering there would be no NFL combine -- though he did get an invite -- or smaller showcase games like the Shrine), and he was excited for a new offense being installed that would likely provide more opportunities to shine. But the Mules got to practice just 25 times before the season was suspended, and then, ultimately, cancelled. "Coach asked the leadership council if we wanted to keep working toward a scrimmage or two," said Davidson, who spent three years on the council. "And we definitely wanted to try to make that happen, and then a couple of weeks before we were going to have the scrimmages in late October or early November we got the word that they were wiped out too. It was really tough for everybody. I was really excited for my senior year and felt like I was ready to put an exclamation point on my college career." Division II schools couldn't afford the costs of the testing and protocols required to play, with limited budgets and slim revenue streams. Regular football was impossible, but Svoboda wanted to take care of a youngster who had given so much to the program if he could. And with no games to play, Davidson had a decision to make -- leave as a grad transfer or declare for the draft. "Before the season I told Zach, 'Dude I'll put you in the (transfer) portal and somebody will definitely pick you up and you can play anywhere,'" Davidson said. "And he goes, 'Coach, I'm not playing for anybody but the Mules.' "He had to decide if it would be legit to put his name in for the draft, and finally he did sign with an agent (Don Yee and Carter Chow, who represent Tom Brady among many others) and it's really beautiful how this has worked out for him." Davidson hung around campus helping to coach the tight ends ahead of an eventual spring game, working out there until graduating in mid-December. Then it was down to Florida to begin rigorous pre-draft training with the big boys from the biggest schools. Turns out he was more than ready for it. As Davidson walked across the track at Missouri after his workout, to get his bag and change into his tennis shoes, the path suddenly got crowded. Reps from several NFL teams wanted his ear, wanted to get to know him a little better, and the communication between player and teams has not stopped. A half dozen or so have been most persistent -- the Jets, Titans, Seahawks and Washington Football Team among them -- but Davidson also knows there is still much work to be done and aims to open as many eyes as possible. He benched 17 reps but wants to add more, and is aiming to get up to 250 pounds of muscle as well, transitioning from a lean diet for pure speed to one geared to add mass. Link to the rest of the article.... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-draft-from-division-ii-punter-to-nfl-tight-end-the-most-intriguing-prospect-youve-never-heard-of/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Matt Miller @nfldraftscout Jamin Davis continues to kill it this off-season with a 4.41s 40, 42" vertical jump and 11'0" broad jump at the Kentucky pro day. My LB2 in this class (Parsons LB1) and a likely top 20 pick. Tony Pauline @TonyPauline Brandin Echols/CB/Kentucky pro day numbers thus far: 42.5 inch vert 11-4 broad First forty timed under 4.30 seconds (as low as 4.28 on some watches). Don't sleep on Echols- he can play!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 3 hours ago, football guy said: Wasn’t Allbright on the Lance to the Falcons train not long ago? Not like Pitts being a freak is a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 1 hour ago, KRL said: I'm sorry I'm not buying these 40 times. Everyone and their mother is running 4.4 or less. Are they even running a full 40 yards or is it 36-37 yards? Yeah, so many sub 4.4s this year. Gonna be an ... interesting draft class to look back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Look at Boogie Basham. Look at him. His potential is so great. I’m tossing the Bosa’s physical profiles in there for comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Good day all around for the Irish. Ogundeji had a good workout. JOK not running a 40 is annoying but he’s the WLB that Saleh dreams about. Eichenberg didn’t run a 40 but I like him a lot. He’s the most boring OL I’ve ever watched. Never overwhelming but always steady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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