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More head scratchers (I'm going off your notes and not the podcast, which I refuse to listen to out of principle):

-This "own" stadium thing is somewhat ridiculous.  How is Met Life (which I hate by the way) not the Jets stadium?  On game days, there is not a single thing that indicates the Giants play there.  

- The Jets biggest Jets mistake was losing BB even though BB had no intention of coaching the Jets?  How do the Jets keep him exactly?

- Rex and Tanny - Uggh.  They were great, but they made mistakes?  No kidding.  Neither could build a team or sustain success.  One lost it by 2011 but hung on for years after that. The other only added 2 players a season to the roster by trading up in the draft and focusing on one free agent at a time while others were signed away by other teams.  By the time Tanny was done, the Jets roster was paper thin.

-MIchaels was the second best coach in Jets history and would have had the Jets in a SB in the 1980s if they let him stay.  Ryan won so many playoff games because he couldn't win in the regular season.  The Jets had to climb the wild card ladder in 09 and 10. I give him credit for winning those playoff games, but losing to the Steelers in 10 was due to lack of preparation. And starting in 11, the Jets were a complete circus and that was on Ryan.  He had no clue what was going on offense.  The NFL became a passing league for real around 2010 and Ryan was still playing "ground and pound."  He was out of touch.

-Erik McMillan was good for two seasons and then fell off the face of the earth.  There were many  safeties better than him.  Hudon, Ray, Hamilton, Washington, Green, Rhodes....

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-This "own" stadium thing is somewhat ridiculous.  How is Met Life (which I hate by the way) not the Jets stadium?  On game days, there is not a single thing that indicates the Giants play there.  

I think he's jealous that, when you go to other stadiums, you feel the team's history.  There's no Namath statue or anything like that in Metlife.  Plus he's saying the team has never had their own stadium.  Shea -> Giants Stadium -> MetLife.

 

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- The Jets biggest Jets mistake was losing BB even though BB had no intention of coaching the Jets?  How do the Jets keep him exactly?

He didn't really say how that would happen but he did say that he felt like BB wanted to get away from BP.  So maybe he thinks we could have dumped BP entirely and handed the franchise over to BB.  Tbh, I don't think BB would've gone for that either.  My guess is that BB's bigger issue was with ownership.

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- Rex and Tanny - Uggh.  They were great, but they made mistakes?  No kidding.  Neither could build a team or sustain success.  One lost it by 2011 but hung on for years after that. The other only added 2 players a season to the roster by trading up in the draft and focusing on one free agent at a time while others were signed away by other teams.  By the time Tanny was done, the Jets roster was paper thin.

I don't agree with him on this.  Tanny was never going to have any kind of sustained success with the way he traded up every year.  And the Jets got progressively worse under Rex.

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-MIchaels was the second best coach in Jets history and would have had the Jets in a SB in the 1980s if they let him stay.  Ryan won so many playoff games because he couldn't win in the regular season.  The Jets had to climb the wild card ladder in 09 and 10. I give him credit for winning those playoff games, but losing to the Steelers in 10 was due to lack of preparation. And starting in 11, the Jets were a complete circus and that was on Ryan.  He had no clue what was going on offense.  The NFL became a passing league for real around 2010 and Ryan was still playing "ground and pound."  He was out of touch.

You're all over the place on this one.  Rex won so many playoff games because he couldn't win in the regular season?  The guy won road playoff games against Brady and Peyton.  And losing to the Steelers was due to lack of preparation?  You don't think Rex prepared them that week?  Probably the team just came out flat after winning 2 straight gigantic road games.  I agree with what you wrote from "And starting in 11" until the end though.  But I have to admit I loved the style of football he wanted to play.  The current NFL is arena league football.

 

 

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2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Wants an OT at #4.  (He has no faith in Mekhi)

Doesn't love McGovern and wouldn't be mind drafting Linda Baum.  He'd be ecstatic if we traded the 2 2nd rounders for Linda Baum.

This is meathead thinking from a cranky old man who claims to remember the ‘68 championship game. I can’t think of a worse draft. 

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3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Thinks JD has done a tremendous job.  Favorite move was bringing back Berrios.  Really liked bringing back Tevin Coleman.

Has legit optimism about ZW.  He has to show us more but he improved over the year

Wants more running out of ZW.

He concerned with Saleh (and he said he wanted him to be our HC).  Thinks he's "too nice".  Not enough accountability.  Also, Saleh hinting that Cincy took 3 years to get to the SB, which Joe B thinks is Saleh setting the fans up for another losing year. 

Thinks there's no reason Jets can't get 9 wins.  That's the minimum he's expecting.

He doesn't want any of the WRs in a trade (Deebo, Tyreek, AJ Brown, DK Metcalf).  Thinks they're not worth it on a team that's not ready to win a SB.

Thinks Mekhi and Mims stink

Wants an OT at #4.  (He has no faith in Mekhi)

Doesn't love McGovern and wouldn't be mind drafting Linda Baum.  He'd be ecstatic if we traded the 2 2nd rounders for Linda Baum.

Wants a WR at #10.

In the 2nd round he's open to suggestion.  If JD wants to take the 2 best D players, that's fine with him. 

Doesn't want anything to do with a safety in round 1.

Wearing a Laveranues Coles jersey.  Thinks he's highly underrated in Jet history.

Watches old games on YouTube.  He recently re-watched the playoff loss to the Raiders in 2002.  Plus the 1986 playoff disaster in Cleveland (he couldn't believe Walton got 3 more years after that).  He also re-watched the fake spike game.  Wants to re-watch the 42-17 win from 2002 over the Packers that got us into the playoffs.

Thinks the fact that the Jets have never had their own stadium has contributed to the team not making a SB.  He thinks MetLife is still Giants' stadium.  He's upset that there's no Namath statue.  When you go to other teams' stadiums you feel that team's history (unlike MetLife with the Jets).  

At the 24 minute mark, Asman plays a clip of his first day at WFAN.  Joe B gets upset that Marcus Maye (who he and Evan were interviewing) had a bad connection.  Hilarious rant.

His most memorable rant was the day they lost to the Lions in Parcells' rookie year (Leon Johnson INT).  Francesa called in on Joe B's overnight show at around 2:15AM and they talked for around an hour (Francesa was close with BB).

Doesn't blame BB for 1999.  Says BB never wanted that job.  Thinks BB wanted to get away from BP.

He initially said the biggest mistake in franchise history was losing BB but then changed to them not drafting Marino.  He thinks the Jets would have at least gone to a SB with Marino (though he wasn't sure they'd have won due to the NFC teams being really tough).  

Gase vs Kotite: He thinks Kotite was worse.  "As bad as Gase was, at least he tried".

At 31:41 another hilarious Joe B rant while on the phone with Brian Costello (regarding Gase).

Biggest mistake Woody made as owner was firing Tanny.  "They should've left Tanny and Rex alone".  Liked that Rex gave the franchise an identity.  Didn't back down from anybody.  Rex won more playoff games than any HC in the history of the franchise.  Got to 2 AFC CGs with Sanchez as his QB.  Beat Brady and Peyton on the road with Sanchez.  That's Rex's doing.  They made lots of mistakes though.  Signing Santonio was a mistake.  That's part of why he wants nothing to do with any of these WRs (Tyreek, etc).  Thinks Rex was the best coach other than Weeb.  BP only won 1 playoff game.

Best wins:

1) SB III

2) AFL title game to get to the SB

3) Win in New England in 2011

At 39:20, the "funniest moment in Joe and Evan history"

Best Jet HCs: Weeb, Rex, Walt Michaels.  Praised Herm.  Said he played too conservatively at times but is the only HC to take the team to the postseason 3 times

Doug Brien was his #2 worst loss of all time.

Doesn't count the Steeler AFC CG loss in his worst 10 losses.

Becoming a Jet fan was the biggest mistake he's made.

Namath is the GOAT Jet.  Wants a statue of Namath (holding his finger up with #1) and in the Jets' own stadium.

Thinks the Jets should have a stadium next to Citifield.

He's not in the Jet fan HOF.  Says he has no shot at it.

As far as ZW, he thinks he has a chance to be a great QB.  Great arm.  Great escapability.  Should get more designed runs.  Needs good coaching.  Build OL.  Get another WR.

Worst #1 draft pick.  "There's so many of them".  Johnny Lam Jones.  Dee Milliner.  Calvin Pryor.  Steve Tannen (DB out of Florida).  Johnny Mitchell.  Mike Haight.  Blair Thomas is right up there with them.  "And how about some of the #2's they've taken?!"  Thinks Maccagnan might be the worst GM in franchise history (refers to Hackenberg).

Says you can't find AFL Championship game from 1968 anywhere (e.g. on YouTube) but that was the game that Namath showed his greatness.

Never got to meet Don Maynard but says he was one of the greatest WRs of all time.  88 career TD - Jet record.  "Namath to Maynard".  "But let's not forget George Sauer" (who he says was highly underrated).  Maynard and Sauer will always be his favorite WR combo.

Talks about how, in his opinion, Erik McMillen was the best S in Jet history.  Marty Lyons will be on "Oh The Pain" next Monday.

 

this guy doesnt have a clue. 

its bad enough he wants to draft a OT at 4 but then trade both 2nd rds to get Linda Baum. i would lost my %$#@$##$%^@%*&*&$#%^&**& MIND!!!

so 2 out of the top 3 picks are on the OL. and no 2nd rd picks. thats horrible.

but he did say Rex was our 2nd best HC so we do agree on that.

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3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Of course he is.  But I still laugh during his interviews (sometimes at him and other times with him).  But laughter aside, he's watched the NFL for the entirety of the Super Bowl era.  That makes him somewhat of an NFL historian.

Sorry, all he does is rant and scream. If I want to hear that, I'll tape myself during a game.

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3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Plus I want to try to find the 1968 AFL Championship game that he said showed Namath's greatness.

Sadly, that tape does not exist.

Most exciting game I've ever attended (was 14 years old) and it was one of Namath's greatest games. Threw an unbelievable pass to Maynard late in the game.

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10 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I think he's jealous that, when you go to other stadiums, you feel the team's history.  There's no Namath statue or anything like that in Metlife.  Plus he's saying the team has never had their own stadium.  Shea -> Giants Stadium -> MetLife.

 

He didn't really say how that would happen but he did say that he felt like BB wanted to get away from BP.  So maybe he thinks we could have dumped BP entirely and handed the franchise over to BB.  Tbh, I don't think BB would've gone for that either.  My guess is that BB's bigger issue was with ownership.

I don't agree with him on this.  Tanny was never going to have any kind of sustained success with the way he traded up every year.  And the Jets got progressively worse under Rex.

You're all over the place on this one.  Rex won so many playoff games because he couldn't win in the regular season?  The guy won road playoff games against Brady and Peyton.  And losing to the Steelers was due to lack of preparation?  You don't think Rex prepared them that week?  Probably the team just came out flat after winning 2 straight gigantic road games.  I agree with what you wrote from "And starting in 11" until the end though.  But I have to admit I loved the style of football he wanted to play.  The current NFL is arena league football.

 

 

Agree with All of this 100% ?

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Great interview.  Benningo is the best.  He completely understand what this franchise needs to do.
DO NOT TRADE for any of these high priced receivers.  Go OT at 4 and WR at 10.
Great minds think alike.
Joe W ... I typically fall on your side of the.fence in terms of positivity.. but Joe B is about as far on one could be from Genius.

Great Minds ???? The guys is about as smart as a cucumber.

I always wondered if his over the top accent was a schtick.

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21 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Great interview.  Benningo is the best.  He completely understand what this franchise needs to do.

DO NOT TRADE for any of these high priced receivers.  Go OT at 4 and WR at 10.

Great minds think alike.

i feel like you're benigno.  purposely misspelled your last name

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32 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said:

Ever notice that Joe B alternates between saying Braxton Barrios and Braxton Berrios?

He calls Linda Baum "Leder Bomb".  And for a long while (until Kim Jones forced him to correct the pronunciation), he called Quinnen Williams "Keenan Williams".

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1 hour ago, TuscanyTile2 said:
Asman said today that it's a big deal that barrettsportsmedia wrote an article on the interview.
https://www.barrettsportsmedia.com/2022/04/22/joe-benigno-shares-his-favorite-wfan-memories/

Are you referring to the Youtuber Asman ?? Unwatchable.

Yep, I'm referring to Jake Asman, the YouTuber.

You think he's unwatchable?  I actually like his show.  I've been listening a lot lately.  Though I think it's partly due to needing my daily draft fix - lol.

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18 hours ago, Dunnie said:
19 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:
Asman said today that it's a big deal that barrettsportsmedia wrote an article on the interview.
https://www.barrettsportsmedia.com/2022/04/22/joe-benigno-shares-his-favorite-wfan-memories/
 
 

Are you referring to the Youtuber Asman ?? Unwatchable.

Very watchable. One of the most watchable Jets voices. Now what?

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On 4/21/2022 at 5:39 PM, Joe Willie White Shoes said:

More head scratchers (I'm going off your notes and not the podcast, which I refuse to listen to out of principle):

-This "own" stadium thing is somewhat ridiculous.  How is Met Life (which I hate by the way) not the Jets stadium?  On game days, there is not a single thing that indicates the Giants play there.  

- The Jets biggest Jets mistake was losing BB even though BB had no intention of coaching the Jets?  How do the Jets keep him exactly?

- Rex and Tanny - Uggh.  They were great, but they made mistakes?  No kidding.  Neither could build a team or sustain success.  One lost it by 2011 but hung on for years after that. The other only added 2 players a season to the roster by trading up in the draft and focusing on one free agent at a time while others were signed away by other teams.  By the time Tanny was done, the Jets roster was paper thin.

-MIchaels was the second best coach in Jets history and would have had the Jets in a SB in the 1980s if they let him stay.  Ryan won so many playoff games because he couldn't win in the regular season.  The Jets had to climb the wild card ladder in 09 and 10. I give him credit for winning those playoff games, but losing to the Steelers in 10 was due to lack of preparation. And starting in 11, the Jets were a complete circus and that was on Ryan.  He had no clue what was going on offense.  The NFL became a passing league for real around 2010 and Ryan was still playing "ground and pound."  He was out of touch.

-Erik McMillan was good for two seasons and then fell off the face of the earth.  There were many  safeties better than him.  Hudon, Ray, Hamilton, Washington, Green, Rhodes....

Rex was a good head coach.  He had his limitations but he is way better than the 3 clowns we have had since.

 

MetLife sucks.  Would rather have the West Side Stadium

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