Jetsfan80 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Mogglez said: Zach Wilson was handed the best situation a young Jets QB has had since ‘09 or ‘10, and he absolutely filled his pants with sh*t, while playing the role of game-manager, all because he didn’t have someone to tell him “it’s okay Zachy, you play big-boy football when you want to”, every single time he was sailing passes 20 yards over the head of a WR, who was only 5 yards away. He has absolutely no one to blame but himself for his poor play, as of right now. Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence enter rough situations (bad OL, horrid HC) and are studs. Zach Wilson entered a comparatively nice situation and got "ruined". Somehow there are fans who still think like this and it baffles the mind. A QB can't just suck. Has to be external reasons for it all because he throws a pretty ball sometimes. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence enter rough situations (bad OL, horrid HC) and are studs. Zach Wilson entered a comparatively nice situation and got "ruined". Somehow there are fans who still think like this and it baffles the mind. A QB can't just suck. Has to be external reasons for it all because he throws a pretty ball sometimes.Revisionist History ... Trevor Lawrence sucked mooseballs till three weeks before Zach got benched. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, Dunnie said: Revisionist History ... Trevor Lawrence sucked mooseballs till three weeks before Zach got benched. And then what happened 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Zach Wilson was handed the best situation a young Jets QB has had since ‘09 or ‘10, and he absolutely filled his pants with sh*t, while playing the role of game-manager, all because he didn’t have someone to tell him “it’s okay Zachy, you play big-boy football when you want to”, every single time he was sailing passes 20 yards over the head of a WR, who was only 5 yards away. MLF wasn’t good, but he is far and away better than the guys Geno Smith and Sam Darnold had to deal with. He has absolutely no one to blame but himself for his poor play, as of right now. Nothing would justify playing him this year. He was QB3 on a team that was rostering the corpse of Joe Flacco, and the late round round draft pick of another team in Mike White. This is a long-winded list of excuses for a kid who was given the keys to the Ferrari, and decided to go drunk driving in the middle of Time Square. You cannot discount a poorly prepared rookie coaching staff ... It's imprudent to do so at best.The kid wasn't ready to drive .. was not his fault that a mlf and Saleh couldn't see it ... He's like a unpolished diamond .. needed to sit for a year.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted April 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Dunnie said: You cannot discount a poorly prepared rookie coaching staff ... It's imprudent to do so at best. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk I’m sick of hearing this. Matthew Stafford dealt with worse. Geno Smith dealt with worse. Sam Darnold dealt with worse. Plenty of other QBs dealt with worse. Amazingly though, only Zach Wilson has played historically bad. Enough excuses. He’s a bad QB because he never got popped in the mouth at BYU, and folded the second he dealt with a shred of adversity in the NFL. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I’m sick of hearing this. Matthew Stafford dealt with worse. Geno Smith dealt with worse. Sam Darnold dealt with worse. Plenty of other QBs dealt with worse. Amazingly though, only Zach Wilson has played historically bad. Enough excuses. He’s a bad QB because he never got popped in the mouth at BYU, and folded the second he dealt with a shred of adversity in the NFL.What are you talking about ??? How did Stafford deal with worse coaching wise ... Or Geno ? Can't defend Gase.We'll see.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I’m sick of hearing this. Matthew Stafford dealt with worse. Geno Smith dealt with worse. Sam Darnold dealt with worse. Plenty of other QBs dealt with worse. Amazingly though, only Zach Wilson has played historically bad. Enough excuses. He’s a bad QB because he never got popped in the mouth at BYU, and folded the second he dealt with a shred of adversity in the NFL. The bold is why it's important to separate the QB from the situation. Which, granted, is extremely difficult to do. There was no indication that Wilson the any ability to handle pressure or adversity because he didn't have to, he just got to run around and show off the arm talent behind an elite OL against a bad schedule. The talent was there to take a chance on and try to develop, but he was risky enough that taking him at 2 and starting him right away instead of a massive trade down package in that insanely good draft was absolutely bananas. But if you questioned that in 2021 or 2022, you were just a Zach hater. In general I think QB's who should go in the mid-late first or second tend to go in the top half of the first, if not the top ten nowadays. And honestly, it doesn't help the players or the teams. Players make more money earlier, I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Dunnie said: What are you talking about ??? How did Stafford deal with worse coaching wise ... Or Geno ? Can't defend Gase. We'll see. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Are you gonna sit here with a straight face and tell me that the wonder crew of Scott Linehan and Jim-Bob Cooter was, actually, good? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Revisionist History ... Trevor Lawrence sucked mooseballs till three weeks before Zach got benched. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Fun fact: the Offensive Coordinator Trevor “sucked Moose Balls” under was, statistically, the best Offensive Coordinator Matthew Stafford had during his time in Detroit. Maybe the idea that a coordinator makes or breaks a QB, no ifs, ands, or butts, is categorically false, and it’s up to the QB to grow, learn, and improve? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted April 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mogglez said: Fun fact: the Offensive Coordinator Trevor “sucked Moose Balls” under was, statistically, the best Offensive Coordinator Matthew Stafford had during his time in Detroit. Maybe the idea that a coordinator makes or breaks a QB, no ifs, ands, or butts, is categorically false, and it’s up to the QB to grow, learn, and improve? The best a great OC can do with a terrible QB is to hide him. While great QBs elevate everyone in the building. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 The only reason Saleh didn’t throw Zach out a window after the cheaters debacle and the infamous “no” is because of his contract. I don’t think anything has been decided. He has a long way to go to earn respect from his teammates and the staff. I can’t even think of the name of backup QB the jets picked up from Green Bay but he would play over Zach if there was a game tomorrow lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswinbaby! Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Just think how harmonious things will be at page 888... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 ......so lets give up draft capital for Methuselah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T0mShane Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, T0mShane said: Translation: third party entities in NFL marketing, scheduling, etc, have been notified that the trade is all but consummated. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Translation: ESPN needs some cheap hype content this week leading up to the draft FYP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 This is going to be an SNL skit at some point lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: JD needs to play hardball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunnie said: Trevor Lawrence sucked mooseballs till three weeks before Zach got benched. I will never view Trevor Lawrence the same way again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Does this mean Rap is plugged in again? I can’t keep up… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, sciond said: JD needs to play hardball The fact that this trade wasn't done weeks ago should tell you that is exactly what he's been doing. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Translation: third party entities in NFL marketing, scheduling, etc, have been notified that the trade is all but consummated. You have to wonder if the league stepped in and said “figure this sh*t out so we can make a schedule, please”. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: The fact that this trade wasn't done weeks ago should tell you that is exactly what he's been doing. Just a note for all the Douglas ball washers out there. The GB fans are saying the same thing about their GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, PS17 said: You have to wonder if the league stepped in and said “figure this sh*t out so we can make a schedule, please”. The draft coming up in a couple of days and the packers wanting picks this year is all that is going to force this trade to happen this week. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, PS17 said: You have to wonder if the league stepped in and said “figure this sh*t out so we can make a schedule, please”. I don’t see that ever happening, although a year ago I thought anyone saying the NFL is fixed was an idiot. Now? I’m not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Does this mean Rap is plugged in again? I can’t keep up… Plugged in with Rodgers? No. The Jets? Probably not. With tertiary entities associated with the NFL? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: I don’t see that ever happening, although a year ago I thought anyone saying the NFL is fixed was an idiot. Now? I’m not so sure. Just a little nudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Green Ghost said: Just a note for all the Douglas ball washers out there. The GB fans are saying the same thing about their GM. No one ever said the packers gm isn't also playing hard ball. This is a jets forum. Not really focusing on the other nfl teams GMs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, PS17 said: You have to wonder if the league stepped in and said “figure this sh*t out so we can make a schedule, please”. FTR, last year Rodgers announced that he was “coming back” to the Packers on the morning of the draft. Likely a similar circumstance here, where ego and marketing concerns dictated action 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: The draft coming up in a couple of days and the packers wanting picks this year is all that is going to force this trade to happen this week. I don’t think they’re as desperate for ‘23 picks as guys here think. They want their perceived value for Rodgers. They have a full slate of ‘23 picks already, not much cap space, and no real pressure or expectations to win this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Plugged in with Rodgers? No. The Jets? Probably not. With tertiary entities associated with the NFL? Yes So if that’s the case, for him to say this one of either the Packers or Jets is now leaking intel to “entities in the league”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dunnie said:was not his fault that a mlf and Saleh couldn't see it ... He's like a unpolished diamond . More like a lump of coal that couldn’t handle the pressure needed to make a diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: No one ever said the packers gm isn't also playing hard ball. This is a jets forum. Not really focusing on the other nfl teams GMs. ? How can you talk about a trade negotiation without taking the other party into account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Green Ghost said: So if that’s the case, for him to say this one of either the Packers or Jets is now leaking intel to “entities in the league”? Boomer Esiason had the same info on Friday—that the trade is done this week. It would be odd for Rapoport to be sitting there on a Sunday afternoon and say to himself, “hey, let me fire off this Rodgers tweet for no reason.” 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: The fact that this trade wasn't done weeks ago should tell you that is exactly what he's been doing. or he being cucked... we will see Let's hope you are right 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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