Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Jets at $8,433, 751. Please direct all inquiries to OTC. I don’t know why it isn’t 18 million anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 That’s about enough for in season injuries. Really not in a position to add a 20 million dollar contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 teams in the red. Don’t think I’ve seen that before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Ya figured we’d keep around 10mill in space to make a trade at the deadline perhaps. But where did the 12mill more we we had just the other day go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reasonable Jets Fan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Larz said: Jets at $8,433, 751. Please direct all inquiries to OTC. I don’t know why it isn’t 18 million anymore. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/ Spotrac has it all broken down showing the top 51 as 15+ Mil in cap space... I find that number more reliable, since he breaks it down more thoroughly. What I did not realize was Berrios, Moore and Jake Martin? Costing nearly 7.5 Mil in dead cap... Who is Jake Martin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/ Spotrac has it all broken down showing the top 51 as 15+ Mil in cap space... I find that number more reliable, since he breaks it down more thoroughly. What I did not realize was Berrios, Moore and Jake Martin? Costing nearly 7.5 Mil in dead cap... Who is Jake Martin? He updated it today with all the new top 51’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, Larz said: That’s about enough for in season injuries. Really not in a position to add a 20 million dollar contract The huge dead money some of these teams have is what I find most shocking. That is some bad GMing there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, Reasonable Jets Fan said: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/cap/ Spotrac has it all broken down showing the top 51 as 15+ Mil in cap space... I find that number more reliable, since he breaks it down more thoroughly. What I did not realize was Berrios, Moore and Jake Martin? Costing nearly 7.5 Mil in dead cap... Who is Jake Martin? Jacob Martin. Edge we signed last year and traded midseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Larz said: That’s about enough for in season injuries. Really not in a position to add a 20 million dollar contract You can always borrow from the future, if so inclined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 This is with Corey Davis off the books? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Yeah...>NONE of this makes sense. I could have sworn someone said, after signing Dalvin Cook, we had about $5-6 million left. Then, Cory retires. Should that not mean we have, at the very least, $10 million? I mean, if he was making $10 million, with zero guarantees, how is he not on the books anymore and we have less than $10 million? Wouldn't that mean we were $2 million over? I fully admit, I am not the guy who gets all this stuff, so for those who do, help us non-math people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Over The Cap also says we have about $25 million next year, but does not have Aaron Rodgers salary listed at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Maxman said: This is with Corey Davis off the books? Unfortunately, yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Over The Cap also says we have about $25 million next year, but does not have Aaron Rodgers salary listed at all. Actually he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 We're not missing any cap money. The NFL just has a lower salary cap for the Jets because we're supposed to be the losers at the bottom of the barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Yeah...>NONE of this makes sense. I could have sworn someone said, after signing Dalvin Cook, we had about $5-6 million left. Then, Cory retires. Should that not mean we have, at the very least, $10 million? I mean, if he was making $10 million, with zero guarantees, how is he not on the books anymore and we have less than $10 million? Wouldn't that mean we were $2 million over? I fully admit, I am not the guy who gets all this stuff, so for those who do, help us non-math people. He’s got Morestead as a million dollar dead cap hit. It’s a one year deal. The only thing I can think of is that cutting him and bringing him back cost a million bucks in cap space. It should be noted that I am guessing on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastMole Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Larz said: Unfortunately, yes I was under the impression the Jets were still on the hook for the full value of CD's contract until he was cut or traded as his contract is in full effect when he was placed on the "Reserve/Retired" List. If the Jets do move Davis then the Cap for the final season is returned. I dont see any team making a move for Davis until after all of the Top Tier Players are traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 2, 2023 Author Share Posted September 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, WestCoastMole said: I was under the impression the Jets were still on the hook for the full value of CD's contract until he was cut or traded as his contract is in full effect when he was placed on the "Reserve/Retired" List. If the Jets do move Davis then the Cap for the final season is returned. I dont see any team making a move for Davis until after all of the Top Tier Players are traded. He’s not listed as a contract liability but is listed as dead money. I’ll message jason and see if he responds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 Some clarity but basically bad news I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 well on the bright side at least we wont have to deal with those annoying posts every time someone becomes available about us signing them. 8-10 million at a position were stacked at...i dont care.... JD sign the beast...make the call... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 12:53 PM, Larz said: Unfortunately, yes 3.2M in dead $ for Berrios What a joke And Jacob Martin, did he ever play a down for the NYJ? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 6 hours ago, Larz said: Some clarity but basically bad news I think Yup, this is the reason. In the offseason, only the top 51 cap numbers count against the cap. During the season, all 53 players on the roster, plus everyone on IR, plus the 16 guys on the practice squad all count against the cap. And that all adds up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 9/2/2023 at 9:01 PM, Larz said: He’s got Morestead as a million dollar dead cap hit. It’s a one year deal. The only thing I can think of is that cutting him and bringing him back cost a million bucks in cap space. It should be noted that I am guessing on that. Morstead's contract was fully guaranteed, which is one of the reasons he rejoined the Jets. When we cut him, that counted as a dead cap hit. We then brought him back on what appears to be a vet minimum deal. So, it looks like the net cost of cutting Morstead for a day and then bringing him back was the added cost of a vet minimum contract on top of his already guaranteed deal. No wonder he agreed to the temporary cut, and no wonder the Jets were so sure about getting him back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 FWIW, Cimini said if was $20+ as of yesterday: 6. Money to burn: The Jets head into the regular season with $20.3 million in cap space, according to Over the Cap, which will allow them to add a big salary at the trading deadline. That's something to watch, assuming they're still in contention. Douglas acknowledged that Rodgers' $35 million voluntary pay cut provides that kind of opportunity. It came with the tacit understanding that it needs to be used for roster bolstering. "It's almost like an unspoken thing," Douglas said. "You know if you're doing this, there's a reason why he's doing this. So it's going to give us great flexibility moving forward." One name that surely will surface in the rumor mill is Bucs receiver Mike Evans, 30, currently engaged in a contract dispute as he looks for an extension. The Jets lost a big target in Corey Davis (6-foot-3), who retired. Evans (6-foot-5) has the body type to fill that role. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: FWIW, Cimini said if was $20+ as of yesterday: 6. Money to burn: The Jets head into the regular season with $20.3 million in cap space, according to Over the Cap, which will allow them to add a big salary at the trading deadline. That's something to watch, assuming they're still in contention. Douglas acknowledged that Rodgers' $35 million voluntary pay cut provides that kind of opportunity. It came with the tacit understanding that it needs to be used for roster bolstering. "It's almost like an unspoken thing," Douglas said. "You know if you're doing this, there's a reason why he's doing this. So it's going to give us great flexibility moving forward." One name that surely will surface in the rumor mill is Bucs receiver Mike Evans, 30, currently engaged in a contract dispute as he looks for an extension. The Jets lost a big target in Corey Davis (6-foot-3), who retired. Evans (6-foot-5) has the body type to fill that role. His source is OTC which the op shows was just updated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 10 hours ago, Larz said: Some clarity but basically bad news I think I was about to mention this but wasn't completely sure. Spotrac knows what they are talking about though. During the preseason, only the top 51 count. This allows some flexibility during the offseason. We must have an expensive practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 It’s pretty ******* amazing what Rodgers / JD accomplished with his deal. The jets have enough money for the season. The Bills…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nycdan Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 OTC is not right yet. He hasn't updated the effective cap space which only accounts for the top-51 salaries. Right now it's the same as the total cap space for all teams. It's weird how much Spotrac differs from OTC but both look wrong. I think Jason needs a few days to catch up as I generally find his numbers more accurate but I've seen this happen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, nycdan said: OTC is not right yet. He hasn't updated the effective cap space which only accounts for the top-51 salaries. Right now it's the same as the total cap space for all teams. It's weird how much Spotrac differs from OTC but both look wrong. I think Jason needs a few days to catch up as I generally find his numbers more accurate but I've seen this happen before. Top 51 part of the off season is over. They all count now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Larz said: Top 51 part of the off season is over. They all count now. Correct. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 5 hours ago, T0mShane said: FWIW, Cimini said if was $20+ as of yesterday: 6. Money to burn: The Jets head into the regular season with $20.3 million in cap space, according to Over the Cap, which will allow them to add a big salary at the trading deadline. That's something to watch, assuming they're still in contention. Douglas acknowledged that Rodgers' $35 million voluntary pay cut provides that kind of opportunity. It came with the tacit understanding that it needs to be used for roster bolstering. "It's almost like an unspoken thing," Douglas said. "You know if you're doing this, there's a reason why he's doing this. So it's going to give us great flexibility moving forward." One name that surely will surface in the rumor mill is Bucs receiver Mike Evans, 30, currently engaged in a contract dispute as he looks for an extension. The Jets lost a big target in Corey Davis (6-foot-3), who retired. Evans (6-foot-5) has the body type to fill that role. I wonder Rodgers considers Quinnen Wiliams' new contract part of that roster bolstering your post refers to. If not then I suppose we are still in the WR market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 Titans Harold Landry: $8.25M Broncos Tim Patrick: $3M Browns Wyatt Teller: $9.136M chiefs still have a lot to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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