It's too early to give up

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, jgb said:

The data disagrees with you 

The data:

 

[jgb]

3 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said:

If the Jets run with Wilson as the QB1 the rest of the season, then THEY are giving up.  This defense is too good to waste another year.  The need to do whatever it takes to get a veteran QB in here who can act as a game manager and keep mistakes to a minimum and let the defense do their thing to keep us in every game.

Basically, JD is now forced to trade for one of the guys @Jetsfan80, myself and others wanted to sign when they were available on the free market mere weeks ago, in some cases.

[jbt]

[PorP]

3 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said:

If the Jets run with Wilson as the QB1 the rest of the season, then THEY are giving up.  This defense is too good to waste another year.  The need to do whatever it takes to get a veteran QB in here who can act as a game manager and keep mistakes to a minimum and let the defense do their thing to keep us in every game.

This very well maybe a 10 win team with @The Crusher under center.

[jgb]

13 minutes ago, PorP said:

This very well maybe a 10 win team with @The Crusher under center.

We should go 8 in line blockers with a backfield of Breece, Cook, Carter

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, PorP said:

This very well maybe a 10 win team with @The Crusher under center.

Which is why it was madness that JD didn't add to the QB room.  His current starter for the "rest of the season" per Saleh (not true, but he still said it) is more than capable of losing games on his own.  A baseline, JAG QB2 acquired during the offseason was the simplest solution to this and Douglas botched it.

[Rhg1084]

We just need a QB who can get us 20 points a game and we will win a majority of our games. Def not “giving up” with this defense we have. Buffalo was a top 3 team in Super Bowl odds and look what we did to them last night. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 minute ago, jgb said:

We should go 8 in line blockers with a backfield of Breece, Cobb, Carter

Direct snaps to the RBs is a preferable approach to the current one.  If we're gonna play hide-the-QB, just take the QB off the field entirely.  Why not?

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Which is why it was madness that JD didn't add to the QB room.  His current starter for the "rest of the season" per Saleh (not true, but he still said it) is more than capable of losing games on his own.  A baseline, JAG QB2 acquired during the offseason was the simplest solution to this and Douglas botched it.

And even if we go get one now, we can’t go back in time and have him go through training camp.

[Jetsfan80]

Just now, jgb said:

And now even if we go get one now, we can’t go back in time and have him go through training camp.

Yep.  Douglas could add a QB in the next 5 minutes and Zach or Tim Boyle are still our only options against Dallas.

[jgb]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Yep.  Douglas could add a QB in the next 5 minutes and Zach or Tim Boyle are still our only options against Dallas.

If I’m Dallas I’m signing Boyle off Jets PS today 😂 

[Jetsfan80]

2 minutes ago, jgb said:

If I’m Dallas I’m signing Boyle off Jets PS today 😂 

Oh sh*t that would be the ultimate troll move lol.

[jgb]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

Oh sh*t that would be the ultimate troll move lol.

If we were facing Pats next week, he’d be on the Amtrak right now up to Boston 

[Brady's a catcher]

12 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said:

If the Jets run with Wilson as the QB1 the rest of the season, then THEY are giving up.  This defense is too good to waste another year.  The need to do whatever it takes to get a veteran QB in here who can act as a game manager and keep mistakes to a minimum and let the defense do their thing to keep us in every game.

 

Who can they realistically get right now though, for no more than a 3rd? And how soon can that guy absorb the playbook enough to actually play well?

[jgb]

1 minute ago, Brady's a catcher said:

Who can they realistically get right now though, for no more than a 3rd? And how soon can that guy absorb the playbook enough to actually play well?

At a minimum they need a backup to Zach so the sooner the better. Zach isn’t exactly an Iron Man himself.

[bitonti]

19 minutes ago, David Harris said:

I'm just trying to get through the workday. Stayed up late to watch the post-game, drank one more than planned. Woke up today feeling down due to the AR injury.  I'm a grown man still letting this crap affect my days, lol - need to do some self-scouting

The key to being a functional human and also a Jets fan is to have low expectations 

Or no expectations at all

This team does not deserve our faith trust and hope 

 

[jgb]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

The key to being a functional human and also a Jets fan is to have low expectations 

Or no expectations at all

This team does not deserve our faith trust and hope 

The best surprise is positive upside surprise. No one jumped off a bridge because things worked out like they expected.

[More Cowbell]

28 minutes ago, PorP said:

Got the devastation but here are a few things that are silver lining,  some we didn't have last year. 

We won the turnover battle huge. 

Penalties were really low,  2 for 10 yards. 

5 sacks on one of the most mobile QB's in the NFL

67% completion by the back up QB

A kicker who actually kicks field goals

Breece had 109 yards on his first 2 carries and now he is back up by pro bowl cook. 

Just saying,  maybe give it a week of ZW practicing with the 1's and NH actually planning for ZW.

Well this didn't  take long. I just expected this from Joe W Namath. 

Let's recap this post.

We won the T/O battle against the most T/O prone QB in the last 3 years.

Zach threw 21 passes for 140 yards with one terrible pick and one TD that he owes to a complete circus catch by a stud WR. If you think this is the kind of performance that wins games, I don't  know what to tell you.

Agree that GZ has been some what of a revelation  but this just shows how bad our kickers have been when a kicker makes a 40 yard kick and we think we have found a stud. 

Breece was about the only true bright spot of the game for Jet fans. I think we build on this but we are going to be seeing a lot of stacked boxes from here. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Is a color photo of Rodgers on the cart going onto Saleh’s “story wall”?

I mean no team opens their mouth before actually accomplishing anything more than these Jets.

[Darnold Schwarzenegger]

4 minutes ago, bitonti said:

The key to being a functional human and also a Jets fan is to have low expectations 

Or no expectations at all

This team does not deserve our faith trust and hope 

 

This was the first time I’ve had optimism for the jets in ~10 years or so. I should have known better

[ChuckkieB]

9 minutes ago, Brady's a catcher said:

Who can they realistically get right now though, for no more than a 3rd? And how soon can that guy absorb the playbook enough to actually play well?

Trade for Minshew.  Sign Wentz. Either option is an upgrade imo. They can be ready to play in a few weeks. 

[jetswinbaby!]

[Anthony Jet]

37 minutes ago, jgb said:

sh*t, my secret is out. And you’re damned right I am. The real question is: why doesn’t everyone?

Because logic and fandom are polar opposites 

[Anthony Jet]

Im excited for the season 

Defense looked great 

Run game looked like a force, right side looked like they could have their way with anything that wasn’t an overload 

Specials were good 

ARod goes down, said this earlier but indifferent, let out an only us laugh when it happened and besides when it’s brought up on this board. It’s like we never had him anyway. 
 

Can’t wait for next week 

[bitonti]

19 minutes ago, Darnold Schwarzenegger said:

This was the first time I’ve had optimism for the jets in ~10 years or so. I should have known better

yeah well still happy they won what does that say about me? 

Im kind of like F Aaron. The worm was going to turn on this one it's better it happened right away 

rather than Week 17 or something 

he's an old punch drunk boxer they never should have trotted him out there to play with 22 year olds 

[Beerfish]

If the jets get a QB with a pulse in there then no need to give up, they cannot just rely on wilson, boyle stinks.

How aggressively Douglas goes after a QB will tell me if he has given up.

[Saul Goodman]

Super Bowl dream is over but no tanking for a higher draft pick. So sick of that mentality.

We need to make the playoffs one way or another. If we do not, changes must be made. 

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

If the jets get a QB with a pulse in there then no need to give up, they cannot just rely on wilson, boyle stinks.

How aggressively Douglas goes after a QB will tell me if he has given up.

He owes it to the talent on the rest of the roster to make a legitimate addition to the QB room.  

Giving up isn't an option.  

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, Saul Goodman said:

Super Bowl dream is over but no tanking for a higher draft pick. So sick of that mentality.

Team is too good to tank anyways.  Evidence:  Last night's result.

You can't start 1-0 against a divisional opponent and then turn around and toss in the towel. 

[JetPotato]

It's actually too late. 

Don't expect a lot more turnovers going forward. Opposing offenses are going to go super conservative with Zach at the helm.

As for penalties, the refs were asleep last night. Tons of missed calls on both sides.

[Biggs]

3 hours ago, bitonti said:

The key to being a functional human and also a Jets fan is to have low expectations 

Or no expectations at all

This team does not deserve our faith trust and hope 

 

This is a key reason people die of drug overdoses and in despair.   Low expectations is a fear based defense mechanism.

[Vader]

6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Team is too good to tank anyways.  Evidence:  Last night's result.

You can't start 1-0 against a divisional opponent and then turn around and toss in the towel. 

The roster up and down is too good to be uncompetitive. The best player on the team is and has been QW, not AR, and the best unit is the defense, not the offense. As long as the offense doesn't lose us games, we will be in it to win those games. That said, we needed a special teams TD and four turnovers to win this one. That scenario won't replicate itself often meaning as well as we played, it really shouldn't have been enough... many of these games will be "the defense is legit" losses of like, 22-13

[Jetsfan80]

31 minutes ago, Biggs said:

This is a key reason people die of drug overdoses and in despair.   Low expectations is a fear based defense mechanism.

The man is an Italian who can no longer have gluten.  Just be happy he's made it this long!

[Jetsfan80]

31 minutes ago, Vader said:

The roster up and down is too good to be uncompetitive. The best player on the team is and has been QW, not AR, and the best unit is the defense, not the offense. As long as the offense doesn't lose us games, we will be in it to win those games. That said, we needed a special teams TD and four turnovers to win this one. That scenario won't replicate itself often meaning as well as we played, it really shouldn't have been enough... many of these games will be "the defense is legit" losses of like, 22-13

Same page for sure.  Not sustainable at all.  We need a significant upgrade at QB to have a shot at being competitive.  

[Spencer]

No matter how you twist it, the fact is, without the opposing quarterback's miscues, we would have lost by a large margin. Once again, we remain mediocre at best.