Tankathon (2023-24 Season Edition)

[Dunnie]

T-SHIRT TIME -- ITS HAPPENING

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/28/2023 at 1:14 PM, Warfish said:

The Jets aren’t tanking. So don’t be shocked when we get a late win that screws this all up.

Anyway, by pick 4, if that’s the highest we could get, both top QN’s and the top elite WR are likely to be gone. 

We tank every year. We just do it unintentionally 

[Bronx]

Let's root for all our opponents.  

4-13 is the MOFO goal!

[fullblast]

Joe Alt, you are a New York Jet.

[oatmeal]

1 minute ago, fullblast said:

Joe Alt, you are a New York Jet.

This is a deep class for offensive linemen you picking top 5 it’s QB or trade down.

[gdfodder]

appreciate this

This is the qb rankings from 7 days ago via: pfn 
1) Drake Maye
2) Caleb Williams, USC Trojans
3)J.J. McCarthy, Michigan Wolverines
4) Michael Penix Jr., Washington 

5)Bo Nix, Oregon Ducks
6) Jayden Daniels, LSU Tigers
7) Shedeur Sanders, Colorado Buffaloes
Cameron Ward, Washington State Cougars
9) Quinn Ewers, Texas Longhorns
10) Jordan Travis, Florida State Seminoles
The bottom 6 may all go back to school though, I think # 7 father already said he’s returning 

I wouldn’t take any one of those dudes without changing the MetLife turf, fortifying the oline and poaching a coach/s from the shanahan tree FIRST.


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[TuscanyTile2]

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

We are only 1 game away from the Pats passing us.  Washington is ahead of us at the moment but it's because they have a 9th loss.  We have the easier SoS, which goes in our favor here.  And we play both the Pats and Washington.  If we can lose out, this will be mighty interesting.

 

Jets' Remaining Schedule:

[dcJet]

I have confidence in Saleh's ability to lose December games because his teams always quit.

Does anyone know Saleh's career record in December?

[Maynard13]

8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl

We are only 1 game away from the Pats passing us.  Washington is ahead of us at the moment but it's because they have a 9th loss.  We have the easier SoS, which goes in our favor here.  And we play both the Pats and Washington.  If we can lose out, this will be mighty interesting.

 

Jets' Remaining Schedule:

If Pats beat us, and we both end up 5-12, they pass us in draft order. They would have swept us yet again. Get ready. There's really only 1 game we have a chance to win and thats against Washington.  Belicheat loves to beat us and Zach has been awful vs. the Pats. 

[Green Ghost]

We’re going to lose out, and draft another USC QB with the #2 pick.

This can’t end up any other way.

[dcJet]

 

Saleh has a .326 winning pct.  Here is where he fits all-time so far.  Minimum 4 years to qualify on this list. 

 

[dcJet]

22 minutes ago, dcJet said:

I have confidence in Saleh's ability to lose December games as his team quits.

Does anyone know Saleh's career record in December?

Saleh's 0-12 in games in December and after.  

We beat Jacksonville on 12-26-21 but Saleh didn't coach that game.

[dcJet]

After NE win on Thursday, we control our own destiny for the 4th pick if we lose out!.  

Go Texans!

[PS17]

T E X A N S 

TEXANS

TEXANS

TEXANS!

[jetspenguin]

We’re going to lose out, and draft another USC QB with the #2 pick.
This can’t end up any other way.

You know this is true, right? Fuggnn Jetsy as hell. At least he's already used to crying on the sidelines

Sent from the FOREVER AND EVER Suicide Watch desk.

[neckdemon]

5 hours ago, dcJet said:

After NE win on Thursday, we control our own destiny for the 4th pick if we lose out!.  

Go Texans!

if we lose out we get , at worst, the 3rd pick

[neckdemon]

On 12/4/2023 at 9:04 AM, oatmeal said:

This is a deep class for offensive linemen you picking top 5 it’s QB or trade down.

if joe alt is there we are picking him

[TuscanyTile2]

If we can get a top 3 pick, that might be enough to convince the Raiders to trade us Devante Adams!!!!  /s

[Barton]

Guys, the Jets never lose out properly.

They will win some BS "moral victory". The offense might even show up for 1 of these games. 

[OilfieldJet]

6 hours ago, dcJet said:

 

Saleh has a .326 winning pct.  Here is where he fits all-time so far.  Minimum 4 years to qualify on this list. 

 

Wow, like the Jets and the 2024 draft board, he is shooting up this chart.

[TuscanyTile2]

5 minutes ago, Barton said:

Guys, the Jets never lose out properly.

They will win some BS "moral victory". The offense might even show up for 1 of these games. 

Agreed.  I predict we get 2 more wins because that'll likely keep us out of the top 10.

[Adoni Beast]

@TuscanyTile2 fyi this has been my favorite thread since the Raiders game.

[Dunnie]

I know what's going to happen .. lose out... draft the consensus #2 QB .. be wrong about the pick ... Marvin Harrison Jr becomes the next better version of Jerry Rice and Joe Alt becomes a Joe Thomas.

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Edited December 8, 2023 by Dunnie

[derp]

2 hours ago, neckdemon said:

if we lose out we get , at worst, the 3rd pick

Assuming SOS holds - a couple of them are pretty close. 

[derp]

3 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

I know what's going to happen .. lose our draft the consensus #2 QB .. be wrong about the pick ... Marvin Harrison Jr becomes the next better version of Jerry Rice and Joe Alt becomes a Joe Thomas.

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Beat the Patriots, pick sixth, take Brock Bowers, he’s good but not good enough to justify a top ten pick at a non premium position, and in the process pass on Jayden Daniels who becomes a franchise QB.

Kind of like 2017 minus the pick being a narcissist whose play style fit the league two decades ago.

[Asymmetrical]

if the reports about running it back are true, tanking would be the organizationally responsible thing to do. Even if they don't want a qb for some reason, a trade down from 2-3 would give them the tools to dig out of the increasingly large hole they're in. 

[Asymmetrical]

Just now, derp said:

Beat the Patriots, pick sixth, take Brock Bowers, he’s good but not good enough to justify a top ten pick at a non premium position, and in the process pass on Jayden Daniels who becomes a franchise QB.

Kind of like 2017 minus the pick being a narcissist whose play style fit the league two decades ago.

6 and passing on Daniels is a mortal lock. I feel it in my bones

[Adoni Beast]

• The Cardinals have a rough finish to the season with the only winnable game being against Chicago and maybe Seattle.
• Patriots can beat the Broncos and will probably beat us (hopefully)
• Bears have winnable games against the Cardinals, Browns, and Falcons
• Commanders aren't winning another game unless it's against us

I think there's a decent shot we get to 3 and it's looking like a top 5 pick. We're not drafting a QB unfortunately so a lot of the suspense is dying down, other than hoping for Harrison Jr at 3.

[bgivs21]

There is a very good chance we end up with the #2 pick 

[Adoni Beast]

4 minutes ago, Asymmetrical said:

if the reports about running it back are true, tanking would be the organizationally responsible thing to do. Even if they don't want a qb for some reason, a trade down from 2-3 would give them the tools to dig out of the increasingly large hole they're in. 

Bingo. If they're getting a pass and everything is aimed + geared toward 2024 then just mulligan this the right way.

Bench Breece + G. Wilson + Quinnen + Huff + Sauce + DJ

Play Izzy + Ruckert + Cook (just to embarrass himself further) + Brownlee + Gipson + Warren at RT 

As far as QB goes --- play Zach --- and let him play his game of quick / uptempo / stop playing scared of turnovers. It doesn't matter if we lose and him throwing for 147 yards 0 TD and 0 INT and 2 recovered fumbles doesn't help him stay on this team or increase trade value.

Let him play free and see what happens.  The odds are extremely low but let's say the kid starts moving the ball and scoring touchdowns, but throwing 2 picks per game and the scoreboard has us over 21 points each game. Maybe the coaching staff says ohhhh yeah we should let him throw the ball and he can go back to red shirt as originally planned or at least have some trade value.

[Adoni Beast]

2 hours ago, Barton said:

Guys, the Jets never lose out properly.

They will win some BS "moral victory". The offense might even show up for 1 of these games. 

There is not much we can hope on anymore. One day we would like to tank properly.

[Asymmetrical]

2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Bingo. If they're getting a pass and everything is aimed + geared toward 2024 then just mulligan this the right way.

Bench Breece + G. Wilson + Quinnen + Huff + Sauce + DJ

Play Izzy + Ruckert + Cook (just to embarrass himself further) + Brownlee + Gipson + Warren at RT 

As far as QB goes --- play Zach --- and let him play his game of quick / uptempo / stop playing scared of turnovers. It doesn't matter if we lose and him throwing for 147 yards 0 TD and 0 INT and 2 recovered fumbles doesn't help him stay on this team or increase trade value.

Let him play free and see what happens.  The odds are extremely low but let's say the kid starts moving the ball and scoring touchdowns, but throwing 2 picks per game and the scoreboard has us over 21 points each game. Maybe the coaching staff says ohhhh yeah we should let him throw the ball and he can go back to red shirt as originally planned or at least have some trade value.

agreed. let Rodgers call the plays too. have Zach run a full figure eight behind the line of scrimmage before attempting to throw. let's explore the space and do this right

[Adoni Beast]

1 minute ago, Asymmetrical said:

agreed. let Rodgers call the plays too. have Zach run a full figure eight behind the line of scrimmage before attempting to throw. let's explore the space and do this right

There are a handful of games or moments of games where I thought okay Zach Wilson can be a good starter:

- Tennessee game 2021

- Tampa Bay game 2021

- 4th quarter Pittsburg game 2022

- KC game 2023 once down 17 points

- Some of the Denver game and the Vegas game this year

What did all of those have in common? They were letting the kid throw, move in the pocket, and had some motion offense. I'm not Zach Truther and I think it best for both sides that he move on from this team, nor do I have any confidence that he ever will be the guy anywhere....but let the kid actually just play and stop playing scared the rest of the way.

The season is over anyway. It's worth a shot to see if he actually can be consistently better in an uptempo offense that isn't scared to make a mistake.

[Asymmetrical]

5 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

There are a handful of games or moments of games where I thought okay Zach Wilson can be a good starter:

- Tennessee game 2021

- Tampa Bay game 2021

- 4th quarter Pittsburg game 2022

- KC game 2023 once down 17 points

- Some of the Denver game and the Vegas game this year

What did all of those have in common? They were letting the kid throw, move in the pocket, and had some motion offense. I'm not Zach Truther and I think it best for both sides that he move on from this team, nor do I have any confidence that he ever will be the guy anywhere....but let the kid actually just play and stop playing scared the rest of the way.

The season is over anyway. It's worth a shot to see if he actually can be consistently better in an uptempo offense that isn't scared to make a mistake.

I was just messing around, I think the guy is pretty awful. but no harm in letting him rip it at this point. I do think we ran that experiment in Detroit last year - result was a lot of yardage, a million bad misses, a brain breaking pick and 17 points. But sure, why not at this point.

[TuscanyTile2]

36 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

@TuscanyTile2 fyi this has been my favorite thread since the Raiders game.

It's become an annual tradition at this point.