Jack Straw Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 43 minutes ago, Falco21 said: Joe Douglas is a moron, but even a broke clock is right twice a day Joe Douglas is the kind of guy who stretches his budget thin to buy a car with a five-year loan. He diligently makes payments, but three years in, gets lured by the promise of a lower monthly payment. So, he refinances, tacking on another five years to the loan. After several years, Joe's cruising in a beat-up Toyota Corolla, forking over $700 every month, convinced he snagged a steal. Not quite the financial victory he envisioned. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Mosley was smart. He knew was expendable. This team has too many holes to create one by cutting Mosley if he agreed to reasonable money. He will be playing for 2025 because they will cut him if he stinks in 2024. I personally would have replaced him with Payton NCSU but that requires a second round pick, and there will be good WRs and OL in the second round, if we have a second round pick. We need to find mosley’s replacement rd 3-4 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Columbia Jet Fan Posted March 14 Popular Post Share Posted March 14 23 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Joe Douglas is the kind of guy who stretches his budget thin to buy a car with a five-year loan. He diligently makes payments, but three years in, gets lured by the promise of a lower monthly payment. So, he refinances, tacking on another five years to the loan. After several years, Joe's cruising in a beat-up Toyota Corolla, forking over $700 every month, convinced he snagged a steal. Not quite the financial victory he envisioned. This isn't right - and neither are a lot of the posts in this thread. CJ was due $17mm in salary this year - with his deferred signing bonus ($1.5mm) and his restructure (~$3mm) he was slated to be a $21.5mmish cap hit in 2024. His restructure was spread over void years so there would have been a $3mm cap hit in 2025 and a $3mm cap hit in 2026. If we cut him we'd have been free of the $17mm salary - but would still be carrying his signing bonus ($1.5mm) for this year and ~$9mm of restructured bonuses (~$10.5mm) in dead cap for 2024. So if we wanted to cut CJ and sign Bobby Wagner we'd essentially have $19mm on the cap for Bobby Wagner/CJ Mosley to play somewhere else. This new deal essentially throws out the old one. CJ was never going to make $17mm this year with the Jets - and the restructure of ~$10.5mm was already paid to him previously so he isn't giving that up. He gets more guaranteed money at a more reasonable level. For the Jets its a massive win. We don't have a $10.5mm dead cap and don't need to fill a hole. His cap hit this year will likely be $8-$10mm ( so less or equal to what the dead cap would have been anyway) - and there is only ~$4mm of guarantees for 2025 - so if he sucks this year we can wash our hands with him for a relatively nominal cost. This is a win. Even if people didn't want CJ Mosley on the team we free up as much or more money as if we were going to cut him anyway. If he played this year - even at a reduced salary we would have been on the hook for his $6mm of cap hits in 2025 and 2026 - so the dead cap next year will be better than having him just take a pay cut. This is how teams get around pushing money into the future. You basically keep pushing cap into the future and then in the last year of the deal just throw out the contract - restructure a new one and you wipe the slate clean. . 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, faba said: Pat his prime obviously but still need someone like him that can be a leader I am OK with this Let him retire and be the LBs coach if they need his "leadership" so GD much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 hours ago, slimjasi said: Are you predicting a major drop-off from last season? Cuz he was "fine" last year. Overpaid like Hell, but fine. He turns 32 in June and he sucked last year. Hell yes a "dropoff" is coming. It's already arrived, and JD just handed him 2 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Two weeks into camp we would all be marveling at the mid to late round draft LB looking so damn good or the cheap 4 million dollar vet looking really good. We would also be marveling at the leadership of Quincy Williams. Don't pay ilbs big bucks unless they can rush the passer and wreck games along with making tackles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 26 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He turns 32 in June and he sucked last year. Hell yes a "dropoff" is coming. It's already arrived, and JD just handed him 2 more years. Eh, I think “sucked” is a pretty big exaggeration. He was fine last year. He’s average. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, slimjasi said: Eh, I think “sucked” is a pretty big exaggeration. He was fine last year. He’s average. No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: He turns 32 in June and he sucked last year. Hell yes a "dropoff" is coming. It's already arrived, and JD just handed him 2 more years. 2 more years? He was already under contract for the upcoming season, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: He turns 32 in June and he sucked last year. Hell yes a "dropoff" is coming. It's already arrived, and JD just handed him 2 more years. 2 more years? He was already under contract for the upcoming season, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 The Jets have bigger problems than Mosley. Let’s use the picks and money to fill other holes now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Maxman Posted March 15 Popular Post Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: He turns 32 in June and he sucked last year. Hell yes a "dropoff" is coming. It's already arrived, and JD just handed him 2 more years. He didn't suck last year. The Jets just saved a ton of money and get to invest that hopefully on offense. The guy is the leader of the defense. This move is great news. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 8 hours ago, Columbia Jet Fan said: This isn't right - and neither are a lot of the posts in this thread. CJ was due $17mm in salary this year - with his deferred signing bonus ($1.5mm) and his restructure (~$3mm) he was slated to be a $21.5mmish cap hit in 2024. His restructure was spread over void years so there would have been a $3mm cap hit in 2025 and a $3mm cap hit in 2026. If we cut him we'd have been free of the $17mm salary - but would still be carrying his signing bonus ($1.5mm) for this year and ~$9mm of restructured bonuses (~$10.5mm) in dead cap for 2024. So if we wanted to cut CJ and sign Bobby Wagner we'd essentially have $19mm on the cap for Bobby Wagner/CJ Mosley to play somewhere else. This new deal essentially throws out the old one. CJ was never going to make $17mm this year with the Jets - and the restructure of ~$10.5mm was already paid to him previously so he isn't giving that up. He gets more guaranteed money at a more reasonable level. For the Jets its a massive win. We don't have a $10.5mm dead cap and don't need to fill a hole. His cap hit this year will likely be $8-$10mm ( so less or equal to what the dead cap would have been anyway) - and there is only ~$4mm of guarantees for 2025 - so if he sucks this year we can wash our hands with him for a relatively nominal cost. This is a win. Even if people didn't want CJ Mosley on the team we free up as much or more money as if we were going to cut him anyway. If he played this year - even at a reduced salary we would have been on the hook for his $6mm of cap hits in 2025 and 2026 - so the dead cap next year will be better than having him just take a pay cut. This is how teams get around pushing money into the future. You basically keep pushing cap into the future and then in the last year of the deal just throw out the contract - restructure a new one and you wipe the slate clean. . Awesome break down, thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Jets Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 16 hours ago, mrcoops said: This lack of love for Greg McElroy is unbelievable, Sarge! And what about Dee Milliner! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Jets Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 16 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: 5 Greatest Bama Players Ever on the Jets? Joe Namath Quinnen Williams Marty Lyons CJ Mosley Richard Todd You're forgetting about Dee Milliner! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, Maxman said: He didn't suck last year. The Jets just saved a ton of money and get to invest that hopefully on offense. The guy is the leader of the defense. This move is great news. He can’t run, tackle, defend the pass or get to the QB but he sure can LEAD!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: He can’t run, tackle, defend the pass or get to the QB but he sure can LEAD!!!! That was a lot of tackles for someone who can't tackle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shuler82 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 $26M in cap space… better not sit on it (assuming that Rodgers isn’t retiring) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 minute ago, shuler82 said: $26M in cap space… better not sit on it (assuming that Rodgers isn’t retiring) Rodgers isn't going anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Rodgers isn't going anywhere. Then they should spend the $$$ no saving for a rainy day this offseason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/14/2024 at 8:32 AM, Rhg1084 said: Leader of our defense is back! I clicked on this thread specifically for this reaction and I was not disappointed - lol! 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Larz said: Can we afford Bryce Huff now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 16 minutes ago, shuler82 said: $26M in cap space… better not sit on it (assuming that Rodgers isn’t retiring) It has to be for Tyron Smith I would think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 9 hours ago, Maxman said: He didn't suck last year. The Jets just saved a ton of money and get to invest that hopefully on offense. The guy is the leader of the defense. This move is great news. Or as Modest Mouse would say "Good News for People Who Love Bad News" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1AjJslkL0o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 20 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Not one statement in this post is true. Impressive. Really? Because you say so lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 hours ago, Warfish said: Unless Mosely gets hurt, there is a 0.000000000231% chance that a 4th Rounder or guy named Chazz playing his position instead of him. Haha Chaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: One day the CJ Mosley type of player will not be on this team Thats how is expect you to reply. GG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 2 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: Thats how is expect you to reply. GG Berrios > Mosley 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 6 hours ago, Maxman said: That was a lot of tackles for someone who can't tackle. Are you impressed by tackles after 7 yard carries? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Are you impressed by tackles after 7 yard carries? No which is why I liked the year he had last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 11 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Are you impressed by tackles after 7 yard carries? Hey. He had 5 tackles for a loss last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 On 3/14/2024 at 9:18 AM, Sperm Edwards said: By PFF ranking, Pat Mahomes is barely even a top 10 QB. Let that sink in. I trust PFF grades as far as I can throw Mekhi Becton. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 21 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Are you impressed by tackles after 7 yard carries? Post of the entire thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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