Matt39 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, redlichtie said: It’s easy to say it wasn’t a big hit watching from your sofa, I can tell you he didn’t want to go into the tent and wanted to go back out but the medical staff insisted he go in. Echols did well in his place He’s rail thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, T0mShane said: First, I think Sauce is a great corner He's not. He's been exposed badly this season for what he is. Hype, and handsy, not help. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 57 minutes ago, T0mShane said: First, I think Sauce is a great corner and a good dude, but I also think the Jets have to think about a future wherein they don’t make the playoffs with Rodgers and he bails. I do not want to pay Sauce and Garrett and Breece and Jermaine Johnson and, of those, Sauce is the most expendable. The going rate for a CB is currently around $25 mil per and a CB is only worth that if they’re truly lockdown in man to man *or* they produce a bunch of turnovers in zone. Sauce, in this defense, does neither. Brandin Echols and DJ Reed have both outplayed him this year. Sauce is expendable and soon to be expensive. The Bengals need CB help in the worst way and they’re also 1-4. Maybe a Sauce for Tee Higgins trade makes sense? Maybe Sauce to the Raiders for Davante and picks? There’ll be a market for him, regardless. I want to see a DC that will put him on the #1 WR every game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: I want to see a DC that will put him on the #1 WR every game. That’s a good idea in theory but in reality Jefferson ate him up today when he was on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 55 minutes ago, Matt39 said: He was standing on the sideline helmet on for at least 2 possessions Because he had to be cleared to go back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Out of sauce, Garret Wilson, Breece and Jermaine Johnson. The guy you think we should get rid of is sauce? The guy you don’t extend is Breece hall. RBs are easily replaceable and he has already been replaced by Allen who has clearly been the better rb this year. Jermaine Johnson is solid but nothing special. I’d have no problem letting him walk. sauce had a few bullsh*t penalties today. 1 or 2 were legit. Another 1 or 2 were completely bogus. Hes a lot better than dj reed. Not sure what yall are watching. sauce has given up like 4 tds in 3 seasons and yall want to get rid of him lol. 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Because he had to be cleared to go back in. He was cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Not going there right now on Sauce. Not yet. I'd dont see an issue with his play. Jets pass defense is doing a good job despite a weak pass rush. I dont see Sauce getting beat much aside from Ridleys lucky TD catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago This season, DJ Reed is clearly better than Sauce and Brandon Echols make more plays than Sauce. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Barton said: Not going there right now on Sauce. Not yet. I'd dont see an issue with his play. Jets pass defense is doing a good job despite a weak pass rush. I dont see Sauce getting beat much aside from Ridleys lucky TD catch. They don’t have Gardner guarding anyone. They’ve been able to juice his coverage “stats” by him guarding a spot and not a player. He never gets targeted because he’s running around playing air. JJ had him in a blender the few plays he was on him. He’s a liability in space on outside runs. Just a sh*tty football player at all levels. And he’s tapped out twice this season because teams now know he doesn’t want to tackle. I can’t wait for him to be off the roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: First, I think Sauce is a great corner and a good dude, but I also think the Jets have to think about a future wherein they don’t make the playoffs with Rodgers and he bails. I do not want to pay Sauce and Garrett and Breece and Jermaine Johnson and, of those, Sauce is the most expendable. The going rate for a CB is currently around $25 mil per and a CB is only worth that if they’re truly lockdown in man to man *or* they produce a bunch of turnovers in zone. Sauce, in this defense, does neither. Brandin Echols and DJ Reed have both outplayed him this year. Sauce is expendable and soon to be expensive. The Bengals need CB help in the worst way and they’re also 1-4. Maybe a Sauce for Tee Higgins trade makes sense? Maybe Sauce to the Raiders for Davante and picks? There’ll be a market for him, regardless. If he is so ineffective and playing poorly, he isn't going to get a $25 million per contract. The answer isn't to trade one of your better players because the HC is an idiot. You get rid of the idiot and run a D scheme that takes advantage of Sauce's ability and talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, JKlecko said: If he is so ineffective and playing poorly, he isn't going to get a $25 million per contract. The answer isn't to trade one of your better players because the HC is an idiot. You get rid of the idiot and run a D scheme that takes advantage of Sauce's ability and talent. I think teams see he runs like a baby deer navigating a frozen pond. The staff sees the film on Sauce- whether they’re allowed to do something about it is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Out of sauce, Garret Wilson, Breece and Jermaine Johnson. The guy you think we should get rid of is sauce? The guy you don’t extend is Breece hall. RBs are easily replaceable and he has already been replaced by Allen who has clearly been the better rb this year. Jermaine Johnson is solid but nothing special. I’d have no problem letting him walk. sauce had a few bullsh*t penalties today. 1 or 2 were legit. Another 1 or 2 were completely bogus. Hes a lot better than dj reed. Not sure what yall are watching. sauce has given up like 4 tds in 3 seasons and yall want to get rid of him lol. Not a great day from SauceBut DJ Reed from what I watched today he was playing well out thereSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago Get a real HC in here and Sauce will look like a shutdown corner again Saleh is the most uninspiring HC in the NFL since Adam Gase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted 54 minutes ago Share Posted 54 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, Matt39 said: He was cleared. Prove it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Prove it. I don’t think I’m on the stand here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago Ya think? We traded Revis who was a generational CB for draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 47 minutes ago Share Posted 47 minutes ago What would you get for a good corner like Sauce who is going to command a huge contract and he isnt a playmaker? I would not give a 1st for that. For a 1st round pick, I need that player to get turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago Two time 1st team all pro in his first 2 seasons. He has his first bad game of his career and a “trade Sauce” thread pops up smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago Buy high, sell low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted 45 minutes ago Share Posted 45 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, Matt39 said: They don’t have Gardner guarding anyone. They’ve been able to juice his coverage “stats” by him guarding a spot and not a player. He never gets targeted because he’s running around playing air. JJ had him in a blender the few plays he was on him. He’s a liability in space on outside runs. Just a sh*tty football player at all levels. And he’s tapped out twice this season because teams now know he doesn’t want to tackle. I can’t wait for him to be off the roster. He's weak in run support, I agree but I'm unfortunatelty OK with that. We dont need him getting 5 concussions by age 27 and retiring. Your other point has merit but thats on the coaches IMO. Sauce is still eliminating his portion of the field wherever he roams, essentially. JMO. Coaches need to let him follow people, pass rush needs to get to the QB faster. I suppose they can consider trading him for multiple 1st rd picks but I dont see him as a problem on the team, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted 44 minutes ago Share Posted 44 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: What would you get for a good corner like Sauce who is going to command a huge contract and he isnt a playmaker? I would not give a 1st for that. For a 1st round pick, I need that player to get turnovers. We got 2 1st for a blitzing safety that couldn't cover. You'll get 2 1's for a lock down corner in his prime. I have no doubt about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Barton said: He's weak in run support, I agree but I'm unfortunatelty OK with that. We dont need him getting 5 concussions by age 27 and retiring. Your other point has merit but thats on the coaches IMO. Sauce is still eliminating his portion of the field wherever he roams, essentially. JMO. Coaches need to let him follow people, pass rush needs to get to the QB faster. I suppose they can consider trading him for multiple 1st rd picks but I dont see him as a problem on the team, either. The Jets and Saleh play the Seattle Pete Carroll zone. I don’t think Sauce is capable of shadowing receivers as he’s a clunky runner, but he was never going to be that guy in this defense. Kind of why the pick was odd (and likely heavy influenced by Woody) as Hughes was convinced the Jets were taking the tackle from NC State- who’s also a bust lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjets1969 Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago Think he will be traded when they clean house next year no way they can afford to resign him once Rogers retires they will be hit with 100 million cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted 38 minutes ago Share Posted 38 minutes ago I wouldnt hate it. He's a huge pusswah and he's not lock down enough to make up for the fake he cant create at turnover to save his life. I do wonder what this "talent" would look like w/ good coaching but either way, it's not a bad idea because he's certainly not worth what he thinks he's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago They don’t have Gardner guarding anyone. They’ve been able to juice his coverage “stats” by him guarding a spot and not a player. He never gets targeted because he’s running around playing air. JJ had him in a blender the few plays he was on him. He’s a liability in space on outside runs. Just a sh*tty football player at all levels. And he’s tapped out twice this season because teams now know he doesn’t want to tackle. I can’t wait for him to be off the roster. You think Sauce is a bad football player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago Dropping that INT in the end zone was egregious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: We got 2 1st for a blitzing safety that couldn't cover. You'll get 2 1's for a lock down corner in his prime. I have no doubt about it. The raiders would trade us the farm for Sauce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 29 minutes ago Share Posted 29 minutes ago 1 minute ago, mfmartin said: You think Sauce is a bad football player? Complete liability that coaches have sniffed out. You run right at him and he taps out. He runs weird, zero ball skills, never looks back at the ball. Echols should be playing over him. At least he can break down and form tackle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 28 minutes ago Share Posted 28 minutes ago 1 minute ago, mfmartin said: You think Sauce is a bad football player? I think Sauce is a good corner. Patrick Surtain is a great corner. He had 2 ints today and one was a pick 6. Sauce could never do that in a million years. Hes not a play maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted 22 minutes ago Share Posted 22 minutes ago 6 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Complete liability that coaches have sniffed out. You run right at him and he taps out. He runs weird, zero ball skills, never looks back at the ball. Echols should be playing over him. At least he can break down and form tackle. Echols is a play maker. Kid is always around the ball and gets his team turnovers. Its a skill that cannot be taught. And he has it. Great nose for the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted 18 minutes ago Share Posted 18 minutes ago ][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji6][emoji6]" timestamp="[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]][emoji6][emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]" name="Joe W. Namath" userid="[emoji[emoji6]][emoji6][emoji6]"] I think Sauce is a good corner. Patrick Surtain is a great corner. He had ints today and one was a pick [emoji6]. Sauce could never do that in a million years. Hes not a play maker.You have to get the ball thrown at you to get picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfmartin Posted 18 minutes ago Share Posted 18 minutes ago ][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]][emoji6][emoji6][emoji[emoji6]]" timestamp="[emoji[emoji6]][emoji[emoji6]][emoji6][emoji6]" name="Matt[emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]" userid="[emoji6][emoji6]"] Complete liability that coaches have sniffed out. You run right at him and he taps out. He runs weird, zero ball skills, never looks back at the ball. Echols should be playing over him. At least he can break down and form tackle. No he shouldn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted 13 minutes ago Share Posted 13 minutes ago I would trade Quinnen Williams first hasn't done sh*t for two season and the only type of pressure he gets is when they stunt him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted 1 minute ago Share Posted 1 minute ago I'd be happy to trade Sauce and believe he will command two first-round picks. You don’t pay a zone corner who doesn’t create turnovers, but some team will likely ante up. Sauce struggles in man coverage against high-end receivers, doesn't tackle well, and hasn't created turnovers. He tends to be overly handsy and is finally getting called for pass interference. He's not on the same planet as Revis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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