Vader Posted Wednesday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:43 PM 38 minutes ago, Paradis said: At what point in the last 3 years, did you feel like Saleh was in complete control and navigated the situation with cunning prudence? He wasn't fired because of our W/L record. He failed to evolve as a HC. He failed to be a reason why we won games and overcame circumstances. He was gift wrapped a top 5 roster. We are 2-3 and look even worse. That is Saleh's sword to fall on. Too many excuses for too long. He wasn't the worst Jets HC, but he also wasn't THE man to get us to the next level. This. he actually seems to be antagonistic to overall team success at the expense of his "championship" defense. It almost seemed like the antagonism between the offense and defense was a feature not a bug of his system. he treated the offense almost as a disregarded entity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted Wednesday at 07:50 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:50 PM Saleh is responsible for the offense, he was supposed to take a hands on approach this season. It's failure falls squarely on him. The offense had issues with MiLF. Issues because of Zach and the OL. Saleh hired Hackett, they brought in an entirely new OL and a future HOF at QB. Eventually you have to say, maybe the issue isn't all of the other pieces, maybe...just maybe, its the leader of this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted Wednesday at 08:02 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:02 PM 17 minutes ago, Vader said: This. he actually seems to be antagonistic to overall team success at the expense of his "championship" defense. It almost seemed like the antagonism between the offense and defense was a feature not a bug of his system. he treated the offense almost as a disregarded entity indeed, a few of us have been discussing that very theme. He was never able to truly ascend out of his DC headspace. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted Wednesday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:04 PM 2 minutes ago, Paradis said: indeed, a few of us have been discussing that very theme. He was never able to truly ascend out of his DC headspace. And seems to be a common theme with DC first time HC hires that go poorly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted Wednesday at 08:39 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:39 PM 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: What did he do to not be fired? I tried Googling it, but nothing. Well that’s that. Crusher the Googler settled it. END THREAD! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted Wednesday at 08:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:43 PM 3 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Well that’s that. Crusher the Googler settled it. END THREAD! Might have spelled his name wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted Wednesday at 08:48 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:48 PM 5 hours ago, GangGreened said: QB is a big problem still but Saleh sucked. Correct on both counts. JD sucks too and is next to be fored as proven by the fact that he was not in the room when Saleh got fired. Vrabel can't get here soon enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted Wednesday at 09:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:12 PM Rampant lack of accountability is a leadership issue. Including the captains 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted Wednesday at 09:16 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:16 PM 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Rampant lack of accountability is a leadership issue. Including the captains The entire reason everyone blamed on losing for 3 yrs was zach wilson, so there was no other real reason to find another. Everyone knew he was terrible. But now that rodgers is playing, and mostly playing well enough to win and score points, there has to be some other kind of accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted Wednesday at 09:18 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:18 PM SF D got better after he left this D is what it is because of Jeff Ulbrich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetluv58 Posted Wednesday at 09:23 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:23 PM What I don’t get is there seemed to be a widespread call for Saleh’s job, but then when it happened, all this talk of it being unfair surfaced. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM Can we toss this salad into one bowl? (Mods, could we kindly merge all the Saleh's threads by the end of this week?) @The Crusher @Sperm Edwards @Charlie Brown@Lith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSOJ Posted Wednesday at 11:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:59 PM 8 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: We all know what happened. Rodgers sucked the last 2 weeks, had 3 ints last week and wanted none of the blame on him. The perfect diversion was to fire the head coach and he put out the code red. The accountability stuff is laughable as the ones who need to be held accountable are Hackett and Rodgers and they are not The Jets are feeding you a sh!t sandwich and telling you its filet mignon. And as usual, jets fans are eating it up. What planet do you live on? RS was a terrible HC, period. As for accountability RS never heald anyone, as in anyone, esp. himself... You support a guy that weeped after AR went down and complained about media coverage.... dude only S sandwich is coming from you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago On 10/9/2024 at 5:16 PM, Augustiniak said: The entire reason everyone blamed on losing for 3 yrs was zach wilson, so there was no other real reason to find another. Everyone knew he was terrible. But now that rodgers is playing, and mostly playing well enough to win and score points, there has to be some other kind of accountability. The media's job is to create controversy for clicks. If Kyle Brandt really believes what he said then he's absolutely clueless. He's talking like Robert Saleh was "Head Coach Of The Defense", not the whole team. And now that the so called "defensive mastermind" is no longer here, let's see if the Jets' defense falls off at all. My money is that it won't. And if that's the case then Saleh was the single most useless person on the entire CS. Robert Saleh was a huge part of the problem and was as deserving of this firing as any HC in recent memory. He never should've been brought back this year to begin with. He was all hot air and excuses. "AGNB", "It's early", "It's the nothing part of football". If anyone was scapegoated, it was Zach Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago If Saleh is as good as Kyle Brandt is arguing then he should have no difficulty getting another HC job. Let's see if that happens. (I won't hold my breath on that one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Judging from Ciminis article today it sounded like Woody was fed up with Salehs extreme patience for everything. Also, Elhai the team president appears involved in the football decisions and is ahead of Douglas in any pecking order the Jets have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Scapegoat??? Whats he got on his jacket that says he deserved to keep his job? 20 games under .500 not enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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