4HCrew Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Can this regime cut out the nonsense with the secracy, privacy and arrogance. All you are doing is coming off like morons when you have proved next to nothing in this league. How about you figure out why the hell your defense cannot stop back up running backs and why everyone including my blind turtle can figure out your conservative weak offensive game plans. Enough already with this...you are not the Patriots, your name is not Parcells and YOU ARE 1-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Sad but true. I hate to say this but I really think we should cut ties with Manny and Tanny. Go after Bill Cower next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Sad but true. I hate to say this but I really think we should cut ties with Manny and Tanny. Go after Bill Cower next year. DITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo i hopt you meant Cowher;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I'd get a new GM and let mangini have a chance to coach a team that dosn't get physically dominated every game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I give Mangini a third year. If this team is playing like it is this year, next year, then he's gone. Bill Cowher isn't coming back into coaching until 2009 and if Mangini struggles again next year, you couldn't pick a better time for Cowher to come out of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alot of people on the board were prasing the FO and Mangini laike they were the saviors of the franchise. Now they want them out of here. The Kid was not a genius and our record was obviously a product of our schedule seeing as the team is pretty much the same team that went 10-6 hell with the exception of the loos of Pete Kendall you can say on paper we are better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Alot of people on the board were prasing the FO and Mangini laike they were the saviors of the franchise. Now they want them out of here. The Kid was not a genius and our record was obviously a product of our schedule seeing as the team is pretty much the same team that went 10-6 hell with the exception of the loos of Pete Kendall you can say on paper we are better... The FO has done a TERRIBLE job the past 2 years in the trade and FA markets. That has nothing to do with Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The FO has done a TERRIBLE job the past 2 years in the trade and FA markets. That has nothing to do with Mangini. Our free agent signings have just about been a bust these two years-when that happens you are in for a season like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The FO has done a TERRIBLE job the past 2 years in the trade and FA markets. That has nothing to do with Mangini. You are sadly mistaken if you do not believe that Mangini and Tannenbaum consult very closely on any player that becomes a member of teh new York jets. Mangini has a stamp of approval of any player that is signed or is drafted. His hands are all over this roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Our free agent signings have just about been a bust these two years-when that happens you are in for a season like this. They have been cheap and stupid, the killer combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The only good FA signings I can think of so far are Andre Dyson, who has been out of favor and injured this year, and Kenyon Coleman, who is our best 34 Defensive Lineman. Other then that, who have we went out and signed on the FA market that has worked out? Where is David Bowens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The only good FA signings I can think of so far are Andre Dyson, who has been out of favor and injured this year, and Kenyon Coleman, who is our best 34 Defensive Lineman. Other then that, who have we went out and signed on the FA market that has worked out? Where is David Bowens? Dyson is so terrible that he can't even push Barrett the human turnstile for playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I'd get a new GM and let mangini have a chance to coach a team that dosn't get physically dominated every game... LOL. That is so damn funny because it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Dyson is so terrible that he can't even push Barrett the human turnstile for playing time. He's been hurt and like Justin McCareins is in Mangini's doghouse. I really want to see more of Drew Coleman, enough of Hank Poteat. I know he has an interception in his last two games, but I want to see what Coleman has back there. We saw him last year and he didn't do too bad for a 6th round rookie. STICK HIM IN THERE MANGINI! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 He's been hurt and like Justin McCareins is in Mangini's doghouse. I really want to see more of Drew Coleman, enough of Hank Poteat. I know he has an interception in his last two games, but I want to see what Coleman has back there. We saw him last year and he didn't do too bad for a 6th round rookie. STICK HIM IN THERE MANGINI! Dyson missed 3 tackles in 2 games that each lead to TD's. I don't care how hurt you are thats unacceptable and embarrassing. Him and Jmac are in the doghouse because they SUCK. They have each cost us games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I think the young nucleus drafted over the last two years has potential but only if Clemens becomes a pro bowl QB can you say the FO has done a great job. IMO it all hinges on that. The other moves are window dressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 Just so tired of this "As the Jets turn" environment...downright embarassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Can this regime cut out the nonsense with the secracy, privacy and arrogance. All you are doing is coming off like morons when you have proved next to nothing in this league. How about you figure out why the hell your defense cannot stop back up running backs and why everyone including my blind turtle can figure out your conservative weak offensive game plans. Enough already with this...you are not the Patriots, your name is not Parcells and YOU ARE 1-6 Wednesday, October 24, 2007 By J.P. PELZMAN, Bergen Record Coach Eric Mangini keeps bemoaning the Jets' "inconsistency" during their current four-game losing streak. But more likely, this simply is who the Jets are in 2007, as they have been unable to match what the 2006 team did. And for that, general manager Mike Tannenbaum has to take some heat. During the off-season, a New England organization that lost in the AFC Championship Game made major moves. Meanwhile, the Jets, who lost to the Patriots in the wild-card round, seemed content to just tweak their team, as if it were only a couple of players away from a Super Bowl appearance. Here were the major free agent signings the Jets made in March: fullback Darian Barnes (a good blocking back who has fewer offensive touches this season than center Nick Mangold), linebacker David Bowens (a situational pass rusher who has been underutilized), quarterback Marques Tuiasosopo (an insurance policy) and defensive end Kenyon Coleman (a career backup who fits the 3-4 well). The Jets reportedly entered the season about $10 million under the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 The only way I'd be comfortable with Mangini staying on as head coach is if he has zero say in personnel decisions. I'm tired of the Schlegals, the Kimos, the Kassells, the Chathams, the Thomas Jones', and the slow, less talented white guys - I mean "character" guys in general. Get in a GM that has a clue of how to build a team. If Mangini doesn't like that, then let the new GM pick a new head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 The only way I'd be comfortable with Mangini staying on as head coach is if he has zero say in personnel decisions. I'm tired of the Schlegals, the Kimos, the Kassells, the Chathams, the Thomas Jones', and the slow, less talented white guys - I mean "character" guys in general. Get in a GM that has a clue of how to build a team. If Mangini doesn't like that, then let the new GM pick a new head coach. Mangini is trying to build a culture here. He must have say in the personnel decisions. I think any coach should. He is insisting on a certain kind of player to play a certain kind of system. Maybe some of the guys are rebelling against that. Maybe Mangini is a just a ****ty coach, but if you strip him of his player input he's not getting a fair shake. I think he gets this year and next. If things don't turn for the better next season he's out. Why keep him on if you neuter him anyway? It's not like his play calling, offensive or defensive systems are so stellar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Wednesday, October 24, 2007 By J.P. PELZMAN, Bergen Record Coach Eric Mangini keeps bemoaning the Jets' "inconsistency" during their current four-game losing streak. Enough of this bullsh1t! What does he think, other teams dont make physical and mental mistakes? Get over it, and make some better coaching decisions and playcalls on fourth down. What a clown. I see the handwriting on the wall very clearly from this a0hole. He is the type that is going to continuously throw players under the bus. The Jets reportedly entered the season about $10 million under the salary cap. As long as they dont want to spend money, arguing there isnt enough talent is spitting in the wind. They can raise prices but cant spend the cap allotment on QUALITY FAs? meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Mangini is trying to build a culture here. He must have say in the personnel decisions. I think any coach should. He is insisting on a certain kind of player to play a certain kind of system. Maybe some of the guys are rebelling against that. Maybe Mangini is a just a ****ty coach, but if you strip him of his player input he's not getting a fair shake. I think he gets this year and next. If things don't turn for the better next season he's out. Why keep him on if you neuter him anyway? It's not like his play calling, offensive or defensive systems are so stellar. He needs to be neutered, or he needs to go. If the Jets don't put some restrictions on him, this team will be in far worse shape in a couple years than it ever was with Herm. Hell, it will be NEXT YEAR, if he keeps trading draft picks for ****ty vets and signing scrap heap free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 The only way I'd be comfortable with Mangini staying on as head coach is if he has zero say in personnel decisions. I'm tired of the Schlegals, the Kimos, the Kassells, the Chathams, the Thomas Jones', and the slow, less talented white guys - I mean "character" guys in general. Get in a GM that has a clue of how to build a team. If Mangini doesn't like that, then let the new GM pick a new head coach. couldn't agree with this more. this team values character WAY too much. you don't win with high character crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 As long as they dont want to spend money, arguing there isnt enough talent is spitting in the wind. They can raise prices but cant spend the cap allotment on QUALITY FAs? meh Remember when i was saying this exact same thing and everyone was calling me insane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Thank God none of you own the Jets. Just cant wait to see every one of you in here in 2 years when we win the division and are in the AFC championship game. But, then again y'all have amnesia anyway and just jump back on the Mangini bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Remember when i was saying this exact same thing and everyone was calling me insane? People call you insane everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted October 26, 2007 Author Share Posted October 26, 2007 oh so now we have to wait a couple more years for success? give me a break, this team is a mess built from inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 People call you insane everyday. Not really. Just trolls like you and other clueless people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Enough of this bullsh1t! What does he think, other teams dont make physical and mental mistakes? Get over it, and make some better coaching decisions and playcalls on fourth down. What a clown. I see the handwriting on the wall very clearly from this a0hole. He is the type that is going to continuously throw players under the bus. As long as they dont want to spend money, arguing there isnt enough talent is spitting in the wind. They can raise prices but cant spend the cap allotment on QUALITY FAs? meh Dam....you tricked the sensor's by putting the number 1 in your words. Crazy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjam76 Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Thank God none of you own the Jets. Just cant wait to see every one of you in here in 2 years when we win the division and are in the AFC championship game. But, then again y'all have amnesia anyway and just jump back on the Mangini bandwagon. Haven't we heard this for the past 30 something years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 They have been cheap and stupid, the killer combo. Great post !! I doubt Woody would pay the bucks for Cowher either. Cheap and Stupid, that's us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 He needs to be neutered, or he needs to go. If the Jets don't put some restrictions on him, this team will be in far worse shape in a couple years than it ever was with Herm. Hell, it will be NEXT YEAR, if he keeps trading draft picks for ****ty vets and signing scrap heap free agents. Then you think he needs to go. IMO he deserves another off-season. If you want to have a good coach and put a new system in place sometimes you have to take your lumps. Somewhere I posted the worst seasons for some HOF coaches, it's not surprising that in his first two seasons a young 1st time head coach would have an extremely . I believe this team has made do with band-aids for too long and I'm willing to give Mangini more of a chance. Most of this board (not making claims about the Troll) was singing Mangini's praises last year as if he were the second coming of Lombardi. Anybody who was one of that gang and calls for his head now needs to check themselves. I think 124 has the right idea. Ride with Mangini through 2008. If he ****s the bed again go after somebody new. Maybe Cowher. At least he runs a 3-4 and we won't be gutting the D. Again. Remember when i was saying this exact same thing and everyone was calling me insane? No, I don't remember that. I remember when you were screaming that they were idiots for not throwing a ton of money at Adalius Thomas. I agree that they should have spent money on the FA market and I am disgusted that they left money on the table, but I think people only called you insane because your criticism was premature. We didn't know that they weren't going to do anything. Just because you were right doesn't mean you're not insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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