villain_the_foe Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't see anything in that article that suggests they will be moving Asomougha. It's a 2nd round pick for McNabb. McNabb would have nothing to lose. If that team succeeds, he will be considered a golden god. If they don't he slinks away another superstar that couldn't turn around that struggling franchise. This wasnt the only article that I read, but you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyzmul Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't see anything in that article that suggests they will be moving Asomougha. It's a 2nd round pick for McNabb. McNabb would have nothing to lose. If that team succeeds, he will be considered a golden god. If they don't he slinks away another superstar that couldn't turn around that struggling franchise. Here's one of the original articles that suggested Nnamdi to Philly for McNabb, but all of those articles originate from a third-hand account of Schefter reporting via twitter on behalf of Len Pastbelli. http://www.scoresreport.com/2010/03/26/asomugha-for-mcnabb-deal-a-possibility/ That followed a couple of weeks after there was a strange trade rumor about a possible 3-way trade with the Jets getting Nnamdi, the Eagles getting our 29th overall pick, and the Raiders getting McNabb and an unnamed LB from the Jets. I laughed it off at first, but you have to wonder now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Here's one of the original articles that suggested Nnamdi to Philly for McNabb, but all of those articles originate from a third-hand account of Schefter reporting via twitter on behalf of Len Pastbelli. http://www.scoresreport.com/2010/03/26/asomugha-for-mcnabb-deal-a-possibility/ That followed a couple of weeks after there was a strange trade rumor about a possible 3-way trade with the Jets getting Nnamdi, the Eagles getting our 29th overall pick, and the Raiders getting McNabb and an unnamed LB from the Jets. I laughed it off at first, but you have to wonder now. Thanks for posting that abyzmul. I was too lazy to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 This wasnt the only article that I read, but you're right. Yeah, the post after mine had a rumor of Asomogha being part of the deal. Abyzmul's psttoo. This was the first I'd seen of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Yeah, the post after mine had a rumor of Asomogha being part of the deal. Abyzmul's psttoo. This was the first I'd seen of it. If a 3 way trade comes about I'd certainly take Nnamdi for our 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeG Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 If a 3 way trade comes about I'd certainly take Nnamdi for our 1st rounder. makes no sense to grab Nnamdi, now that we have AC, none and no way invest that much coin in CB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyzmul Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 If a 3 way trade comes about I'd certainly take Nnamdi for our 1st rounder. I think that possibility probably died the moment we traded for Cromartie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 makes no sense to grab Nnamdi, now that we have AC, none and no way invest that much coin in CB's I think that possibility probably died the moment we traded for Cromartie. These statements are pretty accurate. I dont think however, that if the situation does come about and Nnamdi is willing to restructure his contract which would put Cro as the 3rd CB and Lowery as the 4th that the Jets would pass. I would have to assume that if Nnamdi was traded that #1 he would have to restructure and #2 it would have to be for a contender, which would be a good reason to restructure if you have a chance at a chip. It doesnt hurt that Nnamdi already made it known that he would want to play for Rex and across from the island they call Revis. The probability like you guys said is probably dead though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't care what anyone says, if the Raiders have a good draft and do trade for McNabb, I can see them winning about 7-9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I don't care what anyone says, if the Raiders have a good draft and do trade for McNabb, I can see them winning about 7-9 games. totally agree. I'll actually be rooting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 +1 I'm sick of this ***** attitude of "trade me to a winner". How about you make the team you are on a winner? There are some pieces there in Oakland. If they had some cohesion and a little more than a black hole at QB they have the opportunity to compete. Not that it matters, but I doubt McNabb shares this attitude. He wants to START, period, and will go anywhere to achieve that end. That's why that short-lived rumor of McNabb to the Jets was so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 He's just in a bad spot. There is no way Philly is going to trade him to an NFC contender so that rules out Minnesota or Arizona. The Raiders operate like they are one player away from a championship and are rumored to be offering Nmadi and a pick. Would you turn that down if you were the Eagles? Personally, I think the Eagles are making a huge mistake as I don't see Kolb as a long term solution. He is the one they should be trading. Get value for him while you can while not taking a step back as an organization which will be the end result of trading away McNabb. And they have Vick. Its the right move. McNabb is in the final year of his contract. Cut the cord now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty6 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Somebody at work tried to tell me that this was already a done deal, and confirmed... I should have know better with the leaks from STL last week. At this point, Reid is the only one left in McNabb's corner. P-town (it's not a city) never embraced him, and if I were him, I would embrace getting out of Dodge at this point. He's going to be making around $13M a year from any team that extends him, so I wouldn't complain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 This deal would be a lose/lose for the Raiders and McNabb...and a steal for Philly. It's ridiculous to give a 2nd rounder for a guy who won't be signing with the Raiders long term and who is already 33 years old. Even if Oakland had McNabb, they're at best a 6 win team. Thats what I think. McNabb is not going to roll in there and start winning like its Philly. Everything will be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thats what I think. McNabb is not going to roll in there and start winning like its Philly. Everything will be different. I doubt you really think this. You're rooting hard for this not to happen to get your Patriots a top 10 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I doubt you really think this. You're rooting hard for this not to happen to get your Patriots a top 10 pick. Oakland is a mess. Brady couldnt win there. McNabb has been playing in Philly his whole career. It will be a shock to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Brady couldnt win there. Brady can win anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Brady can win anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Brady can win anywhere. Is 230 your section number or the amount of times you've fantasized about getting a load of Brady's hot sauce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Is 230 your section number or the amount of times you've fantasized about getting a load of Brady's hot sauce? Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Brady can win anywhere. How can you have the balls to say that? That should never come out of a Jets fan's mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 How can you have the balls to say that? That should never come out of a Jets fan's mouth. I have three balls, so thats where the courage comes from, I guess. And if anyone wants to question my fandom then they can take a look at my season ticket AND PSL bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have three balls, so thats where the courage comes from, I guess. And if anyone wants to question my fandom then they can take a look at my season ticket AND PSL bills. I would look at those things, but I can't take my eyes off your 3rd ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I would look at those things, but I can't take my eyes off your 3rd ball. Yeah, I actually find that f'ing amazing myself. Thats better than a 3rd nipple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I have three balls, so thats where the courage comes from, I guess. And if anyone wants to question my fandom then they can take a look at my season ticket AND PSL bills. But haven't you said on here in the past that all the real fans have been priced out of the stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 But haven't you said on here in the past that all the real fans have been priced out of the stadium? I've said all the real fans have been priced out of the LL, unless you're in the $5K section (or now the $6K section since they reduced the $10K). All the real fans, except the very rich ones in suits, are in the Upper Tier, or no farther down the field than the 10/20 yard line in the Mezz or LL. Between the 20's its 95% suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've said all the real fans have been priced out of the LL, unless you're in the $5K section (or now the $6K section since they reduced the $10K). All the real fans, except the very rich ones in suits, are in the Upper Tier, or no farther down the field than the 10/20 yard line in the Mezz or LL. Between the 20's its 95% suits. So rich people can't be "real" fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 And they have Vick. Its the right move. McNabb is in the final year of his contract. Cut the cord now. And Vick is terrible. What has McNabb done to deserve this? Did he **** Jeff Lurie's daughter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 The Eagles haven't been able to get over the hump with McNabb. Multiple Championship game appearances that led to one Super Bowl loss. I think the team and the city are frustrated and ready for someone else. I suspect they also think that Kevin Kolb is Aaron Rodgers, and don't want to risk losing him. It's a business. Get value for McNabb while you can, while simultaneously wiping a chunk of owed cash off the books. Then they have to figure out what to do with Kolb, who's also in the last year of his deal. I'm no Michael Vick fan, either, but he serves as a decent insurance policy if they can't move him. He's also more affordable with Donovan gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've said all the real fans have been priced out of the LL, unless you're in the $5K section (or now the $6K section since they reduced the $10K). All the real fans, except the very rich ones in suits, are in the Upper Tier, or no farther down the field than the 10/20 yard line in the Mezz or LL. Between the 20's its 95% suits. So, Max wears a suit to the games. Figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 And Vick is terrible. Hes dangerous running the ball and an experienced back up for cheap money. What has McNabb done to deserve this? Lose games. What are you going to do, keep him and deal with another new contact and all the drama that goes with it this season? At his age? Trade him now and move on like Holgrem did in Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hes dangerous running the ball and an experienced back up for cheap money. Lose games. What are you going to do, keep him and deal with another new contact and all the drama that goes with it this season? At his age? Trade him now and move on like Holgrem did in Cleveland. Vick was dangerous running the ball five years ago. Last year he was so terrible he was barely used. Why do you think there's no interest in a trade for Vick? He's got nothing left. Not for nothing, but McNabb's won more games than any Eagles QB in history. He's no worse than the third best QB of his generation. If the Eagles ever put a complete team around him he could have won multiple titles. They ain't getting rid of him for "losing games" as you moronically suggest. Holmgren was moving on from two never-was QBs. McNabb is a 5-time ProBowler who still gives Philly their best chance to win of any QB on their roster. HUGE difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 McNabb is not going to roll in there and start winning like its Philly. Everything will be different. McNabb's a classy guy, with talent and pride. He'll be pissed to be in Oakland, but he'll be even more pissed about the Eagles trading him anywhere, and he will play to win. He would help turn around the culture there in a big way. There is some talent on that roster. They should be better than they are now. I don't know why we're not hearing about the Vikes. If I'm Minny, I'd be offering the #30 for McNabb. They've already gotten the best of Favre, and they have to know they were lucky he made it as far as he did being that his arm fell off the year before on the Jets. The best of Favre is still multiple int's when it counts, too. They could get McNabb, have him there for the whole offseason, and be set at QB for the next few years. He'd be dangerous on that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 McNabb's a classy guy, with talent and pride. He'll be pissed to be in Oakland, but he'll be even more pissed about the Eagles trading him anywhere, and he will play to win. He would help turn around the culture there in a big way. There is some talent on that roster. They should be better than they are now. I don't know why we're not hearing about the Vikes. If I'm Minny, I'd be offering the #30 for McNabb. They've already gotten the best of Favre, and they have to know they were lucky he made it as far as he did being that his arm fell off the year before on the Jets. The best of Favre is still multiple int's when it counts, too. They could get McNabb, have him there for the whole offseason, and be set at QB for the next few years. He'd be dangerous on that team. Philly's not going to trade him to a contender inside the NFC. I would expect McNabb to go to Oakland for a year, helping get them moving in the right direction and then bolting for Minny when Oakland drafts a QB (Jake Locker?) in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hes dangerous running the ball and an experienced back up for cheap money. Lose games. What are you going to do, keep him and deal with another new contact and all the drama that goes with it this season? At his age? Trade him now and move on like Holgrem did in Cleveland. Vick is dangerous running the ball? Yeah, maybe like 5-6 years ago. And me thinks McNabb has done everything but lose games. The guy is 82-45 career...thats impressive in comparison to your sweetheart Brady who is who is 87-24 yet you think the Eagles are getting rid of him because he looses games. Where do you come up with this stuff? Anywho, I dont get it. They finally have built and offense around him and they want to drop him for an unknown. Doesnt make a lot of sense. I dont think that I've ever witnessed a QB more under-appreciated than Donovan McNabb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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