SMC Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I hope Braylon and Holmes aren't both suspended for the season opening MNF game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I'm with everyone else on this. As soon as I saw the thread title I looked at the poster name thinking it was a bot or a noob trying to have a little fun with us. This is absolutely the most unbelievable deal I've ever seen a Jets FO pull off. The guy is a legit emerging #1 WR and we got him for a 5th? That's just sick. Sick I tell ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Anyone know how many years Holmes has left on his current deal? I'm curious if this is preparing for the possibility of being unable to retain Edwards, or if it could possibly become a one or the other situation, or the Jets really have intentions of going forward with Cotchery / Edwards / Holmes long term. And the question in that case becomes how long can you keep all three of those guys happy with the obviously reduced number of targets they would each be receiving? +1....this is a win now team, win now move. Edwards maybe gone after this year but let's see if Santonio behaves himself in NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dee Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Hope they didnt print the back page yet... lol Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Anyone know how many years Holmes has left on his current deal? I'm curious if this is preparing for the possibility of being unable to retain Edwards, or if it could possibly become a one or the other situation, or the Jets really have intentions of going forward with Cotchery / Edwards / Holmes long term. And the question in that case becomes how long can you keep all three of those guys happy with the obviously reduced number of targets they would each be receiving? This is the last year of his deal. Not to be Captain Bringdown or anything, but we now have two WRs who will be looking to get paid in 2011. Meanwhile we need to extend Brick, Mangold, and Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So what next at the draft? Dline, Oline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Anyone know how many years Holmes has left on his current deal? I'm curious if this is preparing for the possibility of being unable to retain Edwards, or if it could possibly become a one or the other situation, or the Jets really have intentions of going forward with Cotchery / Edwards / Holmes long term. And the question in that case becomes how long can you keep all three of those guys happy with the obviously reduced number of targets they would each be receiving? 2010 is the end of his 5 yr deal. Unless 2011 has the same rules as 2010 (needing 6 yrs for UFA), Holmes will be an UFA after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Anyone know how many years Holmes has left on his current deal? I'm curious if this is preparing for the possibility of being unable to retain Edwards, or if it could possibly become a one or the other situation, or the Jets really have intentions of going forward with Cotchery / Edwards / Holmes long term. And the question in that case becomes how long can you keep all three of those guys happy with the obviously reduced number of targets they would each be receiving? Holmes is our slot receiver. I want this trio forever!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is the last year of his deal. Not to be Captain Bringdown or anything, but we now have two WRs who will be looking to get paid in 2011. Meanwhile we need to extend Brick, Mangold, and Revis. 2010: Win a Super Bowl 2011: Let Braylon walk...sign Holmes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is the last year of his deal. Not to be Captain Bringdown or anything, but we now have two WRs who will be looking to get paid in 2011. Meanwhile we need to extend Brick, Mangold, and Revis. Just hope it stays uncapped The JETS are going for it all in 2010 and making the most out of no cap... you gotta love it... who cares about 2011? How many times have you seen an entire group of players come and go and never get it done? Gotta win NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is the last year of his deal. Not to be Captain Bringdown or anything, but we now have two WRs who will be looking to get paid in 2011. Meanwhile we need to extend Brick, Mangold, and Revis. That sucks. It really does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is the last year of his deal. Not to be Captain Bringdown or anything, but we now have two WRs who will be looking to get paid in 2011. Meanwhile we need to extend Brick, Mangold, and Revis. If you ever doubt Mike Tannenbaum like this anymore, I will take your take your mother, Dorothy Mantooth, out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Holmes took the fall for Big Ben being a serial rapist. Big words from a little man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 To answer my own question, Holmes is also in the last year of his deal. Sounds like he and Edwards will likely be battling it out for who gets the contract extension after this year. If that's the case, Jets could still go WR later in order to develop a replacement as the #3 starting next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Oh boy, Steeler fans are quite peeved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Anyone know how many years Holmes has left on his current deal? I'm curious if this is preparing for the possibility of being unable to retain Edwards, or if it could possibly become a one or the other situation, or the Jets really have intentions of going forward with Cotchery / Edwards / Holmes long term. And the question in that case becomes how long can you keep all three of those guys happy with the obviously reduced number of targets they would each be receiving? Pretty sure his contract expires after this year and he won't come cheap...said at some point that he's pretty sure that the Steelers won't pay him market value. Regardless, pretty sweet trade. You get him for at least 12 games and you get to see if he works better or if Edwards does. Plus you have to know Ryan is going to have some comments about having to game plan for playing him just like he did for Edwards, and he's an emerging talent. They're certainly setting up Sanchez to succeed, that's for sure. Picking up proven NFL talent, on the cheap, as opposed to using draft picks to get a WR. Tremendous move. The passing offense was going to get better anyway after Sanchez had a year under his belt, now with Holmes this offense is going to be scary with weapons all over the place and the killer running game. Plus we can concentrate on the lines in the draft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 If you ever doubt Mike Tannenbaum like this anymore, I will take your take your mother, Dorothy Mantooth, out for a nice seafood dinner and never call her again. Who called Mr T the Accountant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 +1....this is a win now team, win now move. Edwards maybe gone after this year but let's see if Santonio behaves himself in NYC I disagree on Edwards being gone after this year. Edwards and Holmes are both on a 1 year audition, but Holmes has 2 strikes against him: 1) He makes Ricky Williams look like a casual marijuana user, and 2) He's 1 more screw up from an 8 game suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I want to retain both Edwards and Holmes, though. WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 To answer my own question, Holmes is also in the last year of his deal. Sounds like he and Edwards will likely be battling it out for who gets the contract extension after this year. If that's the case, Jets could still go WR later in order to develop a replacement as the #3 starting next year. Although it seems like a few of you beat me to the punch. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Who called Mr T the Accountant That would be AngryMichael. I've loved the guy from day 1. Awesome GM. AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Big words from a little man. Thanks! Too bad your sense of humor got lost in cyberspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Santonio Holmes....Overrated??? KC Joyner, the Football Scientist: Not in my estimation. He's posted dominant numbers in vertical YPA and short pass YPA during his career. He may lack something in consistency but in explosiveness he is absolutely as good as advertised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Who called Mr T the Accountant Madmike Where is he? He would not like any of these moves, it ruins his chances of crying about the team all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midget Love 20 Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I disagree on Edwards being gone after this year. Edwards and Holmes are both on a 1 year audition, but Holmes has 2 strikes against him: 1) He makes Ricky Williams look like a casual marijuana user, and 2) He's 1 more screw up from an 8 game suspension My mistake, I thought Holmes had more than 1 year left on his deal. We'll see who plays better but this is such a win now move...putting all the chips in that the Jets should be favorites to win the AFCE at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 I disagree on Edwards being gone after this year. Edwards and Holmes are both on a 1 year audition, but Holmes has 2 strikes against him: 1) He makes Ricky Williams look like a casual marijuana user, and 2) He's 1 more screw up from an 8 game suspension Agreed. I think Edwards is the more likely to stay of the two, with the two exceptions to that possibility being if Holmes greatly outplays Edwards this year or if Holmes is willing to sign for significantly less than Edwards is willing to. I can certainly see them making the effort to keep both or if they can lock up Mangold, Harris and one of these two before their contracts are all up, they could franchise the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 To answer my own question, Holmes is also in the last year of his deal. Sounds like he and Edwards will likely be battling it out for who gets the contract extension after this year. If that's the case, Jets could still go WR later in order to develop a replacement as the #3 starting next year. This is what I figured. FO's not sold on Braylon so they hold a season-long competition. Not a bad idea, since suspension or no suspension a 5 for Holmes is terrific value. And Dorothy Mantooth is a saint, RJF. You hear me? A saint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 So, I heard we might get Jason Taylor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Who called Mr T the Accountant Tyson, is that you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 Santonio Holmes....Overrated??? KC Joyner, the Football Scientist: Not in my estimation. He's posted dominant numbers in vertical YPA and short pass YPA during his career. He may lack something in consistency but in explosiveness he is absolutely as good as advertised. Holmes' talent isn't even a question. From a value standpoint in terms of production and potential a 5th rounder is an absolute steal. Dude was 10th in DYAR and 21st in DVOA, his PFF ranking is very good, and not to mention the cojnones to make big time catches in big time games. The risk here comes in the fact that Holmes is a moron, but we've got leaders on this team who've been through their own tribulations and a coach who's nothing short of beloved. Meaning aside from the suspension, there's reasons to be optimistic about cleaning up on the off-field issues. From a football standpoint there's so much to love about this from a Jet angle. And don't forget that the odds of landing a receiver this good at the end of the 5th round are astronomically high. Great trade, just a great trade. After the Jenkins and Sanchez deals this really might be his best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is what I figured. FO's not sold on Braylon so they hold a season-long competition. Not a bad idea, since suspension or no suspension a 5 for Holmes is terrific value. And Dorothy Mantooth is a saint, RJF. You hear me? A saint. Also, if one of them leaves as a UFA, we'd recoup most of the value of the pick(s) dealt for Edwards/Holmes via compensatory picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 They are tooling Sanchez to light it up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted April 12, 2010 Share Posted April 12, 2010 This is absolutely awesome. Wonder how many 3 WR sets get run now and who stays on the field in 2 WR sets. Can make a case for each of Cotchery, Edwards, and Holmes to be a starter really. Probably rotate them all to keep guys fresh. Also means Tony Richardson will probably get phased out a bit and Keller will get plenty of breaks as well since one of them will need to be off the field in those sets. Wonder what this means for jumbo sets and ground and pound style too. Regardless, a proven toy for Sanchez! Very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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