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Meh, he helped install the defense and changed the culture. He was an extension of Ryan on the field and he helped create what looked like a lasting identity for the Jets at the time. He was a crucial plug in a top 3 defense in back to back years.

He's way over paid. No doubt. But I think he was necessary.

It was all fluff.

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I know, I've seen the stats. That said, it is not difficult to draft ILB's that matriculate to the NFL successfully. From a salary cap standpoint, paying a free agent ILB is dumb. Spend your money on positions that are harder to develop, matter more, and draft for positions that don't bust often coming from college.

Plus, he's an a$$hole. I decided I hated him the minute he said "Can't wait" and then that whole team, his team, the team he's supposed to be here to provide veteran leadership to... came out and got spanked because his Jets have no spine.

Well it's dumb if you're making him the highest paid LB in history (not just the highest for ILBers, which would have been bad enough) and his job is to attempt to occupy blockers for someone else to be the playmaker. At $8M/year he's supposed to be the playmaker.

You pay Johnny Carson to host the talkshow, not Ed McMahon.

You shine a signal into the sky to call Batman to come to the rescue, not Robin.

And particularly if it's going to be for an ILB, you pay Ray Lewis (in his prime) or Patrick Willis the highest LB contract in history, not Bart Scott.

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Meh, he helped install the defense and changed the culture. He was an extension of Ryan on the field and he helped create what looked like a lasting identity for the Jets at the time. He was a crucial plug in a top 3 defense in back to back years.

He's way over paid. No doubt. But I think he was necessary.

You are 100% correct. However, he's an a$$hole and we should have gotten Ray. :)

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Super Bowl appearance or God forbid win?

Still exciting seasons, IMO. 2010 was probably my favorite as a Jets fan. To each his own. When you're a Jets fan, you settle for those things, I guess.

It was all fluff.

2 top 3 finishes on D is not fluff, bub.

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Still exciting seasons, IMO. 2010 was probably my favorite as a Jets fan. To each his own. When you're a Jets fan, you settle for those things, I guess.

2 top 3 finishes on D is not fluff, bub.

Where is the culture now?

F-L-U-F FLUF FLUF FLUFF!

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You are 100% correct. However, he's an a$$hole and we should have gotten Ray. :)

Lol - there is no way on earth that Steve Bisciotti or Ozzie Newsome would let him leave. Come'on. He's one of the if not, the greatest LB of all time and the face of the franchise for the last decade.

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Lol - there is no way on earth that Steve Bisciotti or Ozzie Newsome would let him leave. Come'on. He's one of the if not, the greatest LB of all time and the face of the franchise for the last decade.

Lewis was a FA on the day we signed Bart Scott. He was still a FA for about 2 weeks after Bart Scott was signed.

Bart Scott got 50% more guaranteed money on his deal than Ray Lewis got 2 weeks later, after the the Jets set the bar with Bart Scott's deal. That's how out of whack Bart Scott's contract was. Lewis could have easily been had for less than Scott.

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You are 100% correct. However, he's an a$$hole and we should have gotten Ray. :)

Lewis, Suggs and Reed made Rex Ryan. They set a tone on the field for their teammates to exemplify, and Rex got accolades and ultimately a head coaching job, because of their performance.

With the Jets, their are no real leaders on the field (despite the want of the head coach to just give out "C"s), and that leaves Ryan in a lurch. He is seemingly unable to develop leaders, as he is not one himself, and this leaves the Jets desolate in seeking identity.

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Lewis was a FA on the day we signed Bart Scott. He was still a FA for about 2 weeks after Bart Scott was signed.

So? They still werent going to let him walk.

Lewis, Suggs and Reed made Rex Ryan. They set a tone on the field for their teammates to exemplify, and Rex got accolades and ultimately a head coaching job, because of their performance.

His top 3 ranked D's 2 years straight followed by a top 5, would beg to differ.

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Rex's defense is a lot like the Yankees offense when they face a pitcher for the first time. Lights out the first time he see's them....then gets figured out.

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Lewis, Suggs and Reed made Rex Ryan. They set a tone on the field for their teammates to exemplify, and Rex got accolades and ultimately a head coaching job, because of their performance.

With the Jets, their are no real leaders on the field (despite the want of the head coach to just give out "C"s), and that leaves Ryan in a lurch. He is seemingly unable to develop leaders, as he is not one himself, and this leaves the Jets desolate in seeking identity.

I think you are right. Even though he was a players coach there, he was an assistant. Brian Billick didn't take any sh*t. The guys you listed are leaders in their roles, something that doesn't happen if you're immature and unfocused. Having fun and playing hard is different than being a loud mouthed burnout who physically cannot lead by example.

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So? They still werent going to let him walk.

After two weeks of negotiating after Scott's deal set the market with $8M/year with $22M guaranteed, Baltimore signed Lewis for $6M/year with $15M guaranteed.

We got Scott instead of Lewis because that's who Rex Ryan wanted, not because Baltimore was going to pay any price for Lewis.

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After two weeks of negotiating after Scott's deal set the market with $8M/year with $22M guaranteed, Baltimore signed Lewis for $6M/year with $15M guaranteed.

We got Scott instead of Lewis because that's who Rex Ryan wanted, not because Baltimore was going to pay any price for Lewis.

As I recall, Lewis was upset that Ryan would not target him.

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After two weeks of negotiating after Scott's deal set the market with $8M/year with $22M guaranteed, Baltimore signed Lewis for $6M/year with $15M guaranteed.

We got Scott instead of Lewis because that's who Rex Ryan wanted, not because Baltimore was going to pay any price for Lewis.

Believe whatever you want, but IMO you're all delusional if you think Ray Lewis was ever leaving Baltimore.

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Lewis, Suggs and Reed made Rex Ryan. They set a tone on the field for their teammates to exemplify, and Rex got accolades and ultimately a head coaching job, because of their performance.

With the Jets, their are no real leaders on the field (despite the want of the head coach to just give out "C"s), and that leaves Ryan in a lurch. He is seemingly unable to develop leaders, as he is not one himself, and this leaves the Jets desolate in seeking identity.

They made Ryan, and all the defensive coordinators for that team before him. Honestly that defense was a launchpad for many head coaching opportunities, with varying degrees of success. Mike Nolan for example.

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The Jet organization, devoid of leadership has no idea how to handle these types of situations. Regardless of how you feel, do not take it to the media. It only makes you look more trite and sensitive.

But, with a loudmouth like Ryan in charge, who feels it is appropriate to tell everyone exactly what he is thinking, this is what you get.

The Jets PR department could stand to talk to some of these guys.

Yes. This.

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