T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I'm watching Jacoby Brissett v Mariota right now and it appears that the NFL is evolving away from the statue guys at QB in order to accommodate all of the spread concept QBs coming out of college, which is cool and will help add more QB talent to a league desperate for it. With an OL talent progressively in decline, with freak pass rushers consistently getting freakier, and with most young pocket passers opting to become relief pitchers instead, it seems inevitable that the future looks a lot more like Russell Wilson than it does Tom Brady. As an older, Gen-X douche, I've long argued that these dudes won't make it in the NFL because their legs get wrecked and 50% of their game goes to hell within three years, as with most RBs. But with Deshaun Watson, Mariota, Prescott, etc all starting to take over the league, and with Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger in steep decline, I'm guessing that the future is here and it looks like Chip Kelly's Oregon offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: I'm watching Jacoby Brissett v Mariota right now and it appears that the NFL is evolving away from the statue guys at QB in order to accommodate all of the spread concept QBs coming out of college, which is cool and will help add more QB talent to a league desperate for it. With an OL talent progressively in decline, with freak pass rushers consistently getting freakier, and with most young pocket passers opting to become relief pitchers instead, it seems inevitable that the future looks a lot more like Russell Wilson than it does Tom Brady. As an older, Gen-X douche, I've long argued that these dudes won't make it in the NFL because their legs get wrecked and 50% of their game goes to hell within three years, as with most RBs. But with Deshaun Watson, Mariota, Prescott, etc all starting to take over the league, and with Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger in steep decline, I'm guessing that the future is here and it looks like Chip Kelly's Oregon offenses. Lamar Jackson then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Malik Hooker. Eek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Brissett looks legit, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 If they don't learn to avoid hits then it won't matter. They'll be like RBs who get torn up after a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Well, we've got two elite safeties, so yeah, obv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I'm watching Jacoby Brissett v Mariota right now and it appears that the NFL is evolving away from the statue guys at QB in order to accommodate all of the spread concept QBs coming out of college, which is cool and will help add more QB talent to a league desperate for it. With an OL talent progressively in decline, with freak pass rushers consistently getting freakier, and with most young pocket passers opting to become relief pitchers instead, it seems inevitable that the future looks a lot more like Russell Wilson than it does Tom Brady. As an older, Gen-X douche, I've long argued that these dudes won't make it in the NFL because their legs get wrecked and 50% of their game goes to hell within three years, as with most RBs. But with Deshaun Watson, Mariota, Prescott, etc all starting to take over the league, and with Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger in steep decline, I'm guessing that the future is here and it looks like Chip Kelly's Oregon offenses. Possible, but haven't they been saying since Vick's rookie season that this was the way the NFL was going and the days of the pocket passer were done? How long ago was that? 15 years? Either way, will the Jets be ready? Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Brissett looks legit, btw. Yes he does. Free agent after 2017 season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Lamar Jackson then? Or, coughpernick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Brissett looks legit, btw. Do they dare trade Luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Well, we've got two elite safeties, so yeah, obv Do you have this setup as an auto response for every thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: Do they dare trade Luck? I guess anything is possible. There's always the SF connection. And the Jets still have their hand on on their crotch, with the wrong safety to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Malik Hooker. Eek. Forget Watson for a second and just limit it to DBs. Hooker and Lattimore both look better than Adams. What a complete cluster****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, 56mehl56 said: Do you have this setup as an auto response for every thread. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, AFJF said: Possible, but haven't they been saying since Vick's rookie season that this was the way the NFL was going and the days of the pocket passer were done? How long ago was that? 15 years? Either way, will the Jets be ready? Probably not. They've been saying it, iirc, since Randall Cunningham and it's never happened, but I've come to believe that has more to do with the coaching fraternity being a group of 55+ year old retreads who studied under Lombardi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 wait, are we back to enjoying the NFL? yesterday watching was like getting a face full of rock salt *** the running QB always gets caught eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, T0mShane said: They've been saying it, iirc, since Randall Cunningham and it's never happened, but I've come to believe that has more to do with the coaching fraternity being a group of 55+ year old retreads who studied under Lombardi. Could be. Even if it goes that way, it'll eventually evolve back again, and the Jets will still be looking for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I guess anything is possible. There's always the SF connection. And the Jets still have their hand on on their crotch, with the wrong safety to boot. They won't do it, but the Jets could justifiably throw their next three drafts at the Colts for Luck and it would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Forget Watson for a second and just limit it to DBs. Hooker and Lattimore both look better than Adams. What a complete cluster****. Yes. Yes they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: They won't do it, but the Jets could justifiably throw their next three drafts at the Colts for Luck and it would be fine. Im good with that. He's not agreeing to come here though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: wait, are we back to enjoying the NFL? yesterday watching was like getting a face full of rock salt *** the running QB always gets caught eventually. I've concluded that nothing is worse than watching a football game--pro, college, high school--where one team has a plus QB and the other team has Charlie Whitehurst. It's like watching True Detective Season Two where Colin Farrell had to carry scenes with Rachel McAdams. Heartbreaking. And that's the story of the NFL for the past 15+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Im good with that. He's not agreeing to come here though. I was thinking about that the other day: imagine the Jets draft Rosen and he just refuses to report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I'm watching Jacoby Brissett v Mariota right now and it appears that the NFL is evolving away from the statue guys at QB in order to accommodate all of the spread concept QBs coming out of college, which is cool and will help add more QB talent to a league desperate for it. With an OL talent progressively in decline, with freak pass rushers consistently getting freakier, and with most young pocket passers opting to become relief pitchers instead, it seems inevitable that the future looks a lot more like Russell Wilson than it does Tom Brady. As an older, Gen-X douche, I've long argued that these dudes won't make it in the NFL because their legs get wrecked and 50% of their game goes to hell within three years, as with most RBs. But with Deshaun Watson, Mariota, Prescott, etc all starting to take over the league, and with Brady, Brees, Manning, Rivers, Roethlisberger in steep decline, I'm guessing that the future is here and it looks like Chip Kelly's Oregon offenses. Racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Forget Watson for a second and just limit it to DBs. Hooker and Lattimore both look better than Adams. What a complete cluster****. I've long maintained that NFL defensive success is solely about sacks and turnovers. Adams is athletic and scrappy and all that, but if he's not gonna factor into sacking the QB or picking people off, he's meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Forget Watson for a second and just limit it to DBs. Hooker and Lattimore both look better than Adams. What a complete cluster****. Leadership......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I've long maintained that NFL defensive success is solely about sacks and turnovers. Adams is athletic and scrappy and all that, but if he's not gonna factor into sacking the QB or picking people off, he's meh I mean he didnt do either of those things in college. Gronk abusing him yesterday was really, really bad. Aside from the Miami game- Adams has been awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I mean he didnt do either of those things in college. Gronk abusing him yesterday was really, really bad. Aside from the Miami game- Adams has been awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just now, Pac said: Cant cover, doesnt turn the ball over, doesnt return punts or score touchdowns. Totally worth it at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 33 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Well, we've got two elite safeties, so yeah, obv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I mean he didnt do either of those things in college. Gronk abusing him yesterday was really, really bad. Aside from the Miami game- Adams has been awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Racist. E 19 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I've long maintained that NFL defensive success is solely about sacks and turnovers. Adams is athletic and scrappy and all that, but if he's not gonna factor into sacking the QB or picking people off, he's meh It's all a limp dick with no viagra refills on the script without a legit edge rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 15 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I mean he didnt do either of those things in college. Gronk abusing him yesterday was really, really bad. Aside from the Miami game- Adams has been awful. Best--BEST--case was Polamalu-lite and I don't know if even that kind of player is as useful anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Crusher said: E It's all a limp dick with no viagra refills on the script without a legit edge rusher. Which it appears we have no ability or interest in drafting anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 lamar jakson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Which it appears we have no ability or interest in drafting anyway Taste of Vernon Gholston still tainting the palette? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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