T0mShane Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I think it's time to close the books on Sanchez's alleged potential to be an elite QB. He is what he is--a streaky, inaccurate, tough little dude. That's it. No QB in the league has a more comfortable situation to play in--an elite defense and special teams guaranteeing him great field position and opportunities, to go along with a good OL and high-end receiving corps. And, yet, the offense is a consistent ****fest. We can blame Scottenheimer, sure, but it's Sanchez out there still throwing INT's that rookies shouldn't even be throwing and missing receivers that rookies shouldn't miss, in Year Three. This is not to say that Sanchez isn't a good QB. Obviously, you can win with him. But, we have to stop deluding ourselves into believing that there's some great, as-yet untapped pool of talent under the surface here. He's not, nor will he ever be, a top-10 QB. He's basically the reincarnation of Steve Beurlein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 boooooooo troll thread, don't fall for it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 God I just couldn't possibly disagree more. He makes some incredible throws. He's got a ton of potential. He's not there yet, but I believe he will be soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 he also throws TDs that most pros cant throw. so its a wash. sometimes he's rock bottom, sometimes he is a rockstar. same with jets fans. some of us say it sucks. rest say he rocks. its a microcosm-macrocosm situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 LOL, holy crap. You're nuts. You're all ******* nuts. It's his 3rd year and he's getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 he also throws TDs that most pros cant throw. so its a wash. sometimes he's rock bottom, sometimes he is a rockstar. same with jets fans. some of us say it sucks. rest say he rocks. its a microcosm-macrocosm situation. agreed. he's got sooo much freakin potential, makes throws that elite qb's do, but just seems to toss the int here and there. can he get over it? time will tell. in the meantime i'll just have to keep gulping down ant acids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 When he's playing with Wayne Hunter and without Nick Mangold, he isn't going to get more than 3 seconds. Problem is that the OL ahs gone from a strength to a liability. Injuries are part of the game; look at Green Bay last year. But either there has to be inmprovement in OL play or the offense is going to struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I think it's time to close the books on Sanchez's alleged potential to be an elite QB. He is what he is--a streaky, inaccurate, tough little dude. That's it. No QB in the league has a more comfortable situation to play in--an elite defense and special teams guaranteeing him great field position and opportunities, to go along with a good OL and high-end receiving corps. And, yet, the offense is a consistent ****fest. We can blame Scottenheimer, sure, but it's Sanchez out there still throwing INT's that rookies shouldn't even be throwing and missing receivers that rookies shouldn't miss, in Year Three. This is not to say that Sanchez isn't a good QB. Obviously, you can win with him. But, we have to stop deluding ourselves into believing that there's some great, as-yet untapped pool of talent under the surface here. He's not, nor will he ever be, a top-10 QB. He's basically the reincarnation of Steve Beurlein. Actually Sanchez throws the same INTs that even vets do. He didn't have a good game today but he completed 70% of his passes and the team won by 29 ******* points so lighten the **** up will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Sucks that a 24 yr old QB in his 3rd year cant improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I think it's time to close the books on Sanchez's alleged potential to be an elite QB. He is what he is--a streaky, inaccurate, tough little dude. That's it. No QB in the league has a more comfortable situation to play in--an elite defense and special teams guaranteeing him great field position and opportunities, to go along with a good OL and high-end receiving corps. And, yet, the offense is a consistent ****fest. We can blame Scottenheimer, sure, but it's Sanchez out there still throwing INT's that rookies shouldn't even be throwing and missing receivers that rookies shouldn't miss, in Year Three. This is not to say that Sanchez isn't a good QB. Obviously, you can win with him. But, we have to stop deluding ourselves into believing that there's some great, as-yet untapped pool of talent under the surface here. He's not, nor will he ever be, a top-10 QB. He's basically the reincarnation of Steve Beurlein. So true. But, as you can see by your responses already, it's not gonna fly here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets90 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1105354/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 So true. But, as you can see by your responses already, it's not gonna fly here. Because it just seems dumb to call it a career for a 24 yr old QB in his 3rd year. Youre killing Sanchez but his stats now are projected better than last year. Hes raising the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 The earlier you bury a player here, the more points you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 He will NEVER EVER be elite. Period. But who gives a $hit. With a very good running game (which at the moment we dont have) and this kid can definately QB this team to a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Because it just seems dumb to call it a career for a 24 yr old QB in his 3rd year. Youre killing Sanchez but his stats now are projected better than last year. Hes raising the floor. See, here you go again fabricating an argument. No one's 'calling it a career', we're simply calling it what it is... As I said in the other thread, "raising the floor" is improving his completion percentage, but his mistakes are still awful and he's still starring down WRs and missing open targets. He's got tunnel vision, and unlike his completion percentage, that has shown no signs of improving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billo83 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 When he's playing with Wayne Hunter and without Nick Mangold, he isn't going to get more than 3 seconds. Problem is that the OL ahs gone from a strength to a liability. Injuries are part of the game; look at Green Bay last year. But either there has to be inmprovement in OL play or the offense is going to struggle. +1 exactly what I was going to say. I think any QB would struggle with Wayne Turnstile Hunter playing and on top of that losing your top flight center early in the game. Add to that the running game was non existant, and what can you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 See, here you go again fabricating an argument. No one's 'calling it a career', we're simply calling it what it is... As I said in the other thread, "raising the floor" is improving his completion percentage, but his mistakes are still awful and he's still starring down WRs and missing open targets. He's got tunnel vision, and unlike his completion percentage, that has shown no signs of improving. Fabricating argument? Tom just said that this is all Sanchez is, which means its a career. Hes nothing more, regardless of how long he plays. Yes, I agree with the mistakes, but not that he hasnt improved. Facts dont support that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Hes alright. So long as he stays healthy time, upside, and potential are all on his side. Right now he's significantly better than he was, and that's all I'm looking for so early in a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Fabricating argument? Tom just said that this is all Sanchez is, which means its a career. Hes nothing more, regardless of how long he plays. Yes, I agree with the mistakes, but not that he hasnt improved. Facts dont support that. I think 'calling it a career' would be saying he's done. He's not done, this is just what he is. He's ok, with the ability to fairly good, and the ability to be exceptionally bad. Nothing has supported the fact that he's anything but that. He's turned the ball over 4 times thus far, only one of those occasions can even be talked about as a decent play made by the defender (cowboys INT). The rest were all on him. Again, completion percentage is improving, but not his awareness, and to be honest, he's taking less risks down field, which is contributing to his improving completion percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 OH MY GOD, TOM BRADY JUST MISSED A WIDE OPEN RECEIVER IN THE END ZONE, HE SUCKS. BENCH HIM!!!! START THE RYAN MALLETT ERA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Tom just said that this is all Sanchez is, which means its a career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Sucks that a 24 yr old QB in his 3rd year cant improve. Agreed. These threads are all the same. Pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 OH MY GOD, TOM BRADY JUST MISSED A WIDE OPEN RECEIVER IN THE END ZONE, HE SUCKS. BENCH HIM!!!! START THE RYAN MALLETT ERA!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 T0m Shane is what he is... A cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 He's turned the ball over 4 times thus far, only one of those occasions can even be talked about as a decent play made by the defender (cowboys INT). The rest were all on him. Again, completion percentage is improving, but not his awareness, and to be honest, he's taking less risks down field, which is contributing to his improving completion percentage. The sample size is too small to declare that he has or hasn't regardless. Through two games however, there's not much to be impressed with. He was average against Dallas and horrible today. Jacksonville stinks, so this was the game to throw up a bomb like this, but there isn't much to suggest thus far a noticeable improvement aside from that little side-out to LT that he seems to have perfected. Unfortunately this gets balanced out by him running around and holding the ball like he's Jerry running from that old lady with a marble rye in his hands constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 It's not nearly as stupid as saying Sanchez has reached his ceiling at 24. That's absolutely moronic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 It's not nearly as stupid as saying Sanchez has reached his ceiling at 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Doug, You're a pretty funny guy but you're not nearly as good with the funny pics as Vic. Just leave that to him. It's kind of his thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Doug, You're a pretty funny guy but you're not nearly as good with the funny pics as Vic. Just leave that to him. It's kind of his thing. Ruh ruh, Kleckbot switching to First Names Mode. Him no happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I think Beurlein is a rough comparison. Beurlein was a never was, while Sanchez makes throws that are really top of the line passes. There is just no consistency to his game. He was great on drive 1 and had a real nice TD to Keller later on, but more or less stunk in between. I personally think the ship sailed on him being an Elway type last year when he didnt improve a ton, but there is nothing wrong with being Bernie Kosar or Eli Manning provided the team acknowledges that that is his upside and surrounds him with talent accordingly. The problem occurs when they give him a 15M a year contract and entrust him to carry the offense on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Ruh ruh, Kleckbot switching to First Names Mode. Him no happy. Correct I would be much happier if you were funny today. Where's the movie quotes? Play to your strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Play to your strengths. This coming from the man who thinks he's a statistics professor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 This coming from the man who thinks he's a statistics professor. Looks like I touched a nerve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Ruh ruh, Kleckbot switching to First Names Mode. Him no happy. Sounded like he called you a swagjacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Jets fans are pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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