JonEJet Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I have a new found respect for Vilma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Then they should be punished the same, right Garb? Or did Goodell run out of lighter fluid to burn the evidence this time? Won't be punished the same because of the timing....you know, the players b*tching last year about health, safety, health bene's, concussions, etc. This opens the door for the 18 game season. Obviously players DO NOT care about health. And bs that Goodell does. It's all about the money, Tom. Always has been, always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19andOhWait Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 so did they have to add cash to the pot when they got ran over?? o my Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYGiantFan10 Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 anyone who says this isnt dirty is crazy..theres a difference being physical and being a cheap shot artist.. they were trying to make people get carted off and get knocked out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 you guys realize a ryan coaches here, right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Won't be punished the same because of the timing....you know, the players b*tching last year about health, safety, health bene's, concussions, etc. This opens the door for the 18 game season. Obviously players DO NOT care about health. And bs that Goodell does. It's all about the money, Tom. Always has been, always will be. Agreed on the last part--the reason Goodell wouldn't run the Pats up the flagpole was because admitting that one of its premiere franchises was sodomizing competitive balance would have hurt the league's implicit and crucial ties to Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Agreed on the last part--the reason Goodell wouldn't run the Pats up the flagpole was because admitting that one of its premiere franchises was sodomizing competitive balance would have hurt the league's implicit and crucial ties to Vegas. you're such an angry young man. leave work now - go have a drink - decompress, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It's over a decade now? Wow, the legend of an overblown "crime" perpetuated by ESPN for ratings grows still....helps that half the staff at ESPN are New Yorkers. This is what I think: Bountygate is probably alot like spygate. Most everyone does it, but only one gets caught and made an example of. And more to my point - everyone's a freakin' hypocrite. Also, generally speaking, Jets fans are angry people. Very angry. Relax. Have a coacktail. First of all, you accusing someone of being angry is hysterical. Second, based on your comments in this post I highly doubt you watch ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 you think Lawrence Taylor wasn't getting extra bonus's for knocking out QBs? unlike spygate this is not "cheating" so i don't see how it's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Then they should be punished the same, right Garb? Or did Goodell run out of lighter fluid to burn the evidence this time? My question is, how can this be proven? I mean, did the Saints really document this type of stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 My question is, how can this be proven? I mean, did the Saints really document this type of stuff? According to one source the NFL examined 10,000 pages of documents during the "investigation." Where was this crack NFL investigative unit when multiple teams accused the Pats of cheating over a 7-year period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 According to one source the NFL examined 10,000 pages of documents during the "investigation." Where was this crack NFL investigative unit when multiple teams accused the Pats of cheating over a 7-year period? Why do these documents exist? That's my question. I mean, did Vilma try to write off the 10K as a business expense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 My question is, how can this be proven? I mean, did the Saints really document this type of stuff? Eye witnesses? Like the players perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Why do these documents exist? That's my question. I mean, did Vilma try to write off the 10K as a business expense? Who the hell could Vilma have possibly knocked out of a game? I mean the guy is good but he doesn't exactly hit like a Mack truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 this is much worse than spygate Spygate pushed the boundries on something that other teams have done periodically. This is a team organizing a program specifically to injure other players. At a time when the NFL is making an enormous operations and PR effort to emphasize player safety, the Saints are going to get hammered for this. No. Systematic cheating is worse than bounties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 you're such an angry young man. leave work now - go have a drink - decompress, sir. I like to think of myself as passionate. A stallion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Nice. All Belichick did was defraud the league and steal a few Super Bowls. The Saints players throw a couple of bucks around to do sh*t they're going to do anyway and Big Rog gets to play moral relativist. Unreal. It's over a decade now? Wow, the legend of an overblown "crime" perpetuated by ESPN for ratings grows still....helps that half the staff at ESPN are New Yorkers. This is what I think: Bountygate is probably alot like spygate. Most everyone does it, but only one gets caught and made an example of. And more to my point - everyone's a freakin' hypocrite. Also, generally speaking, Jets fans are angry people. Very angry. Relax. Have a coacktail. Wow. Patsy fans never cease to amaze me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 My question is, how can this be proven? I mean, did the Saints really document this type of stuff? I'd imagine they had one bitter ex-Saint come forward, then Goodell's boys just waited outside the locker room on cutdown day for three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 "cease." Thanks. I dont read and right good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Isn't it funny that the same people that say there is nothing wrong with bounties are the first to call "player X" a dirty bastard. Can't have it both ways, fellas. For example, you can't call Rodney Harrison dirty - but say the bounty system is okay. But a majority will call Rodney Harrison dirty and say the bounty system is not okay! And the majority would not include Pats fans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It's over a decade now? Wow, the legend of an overblown "crime" perpetuated by ESPN for ratings grows still....helps that half the staff at ESPN are New Yorkers. This is what I think: Bountygate is probably alot like spygate. Most everyone does it, but only one gets caught and made an example of. And more to my point - everyone's a freakin' hypocrite. Also, generally speaking, Jets fans are angry people. Very angry. Relax. Have a coacktail. It only happened for a decade and changed the outcome of many games and a few Super Bowls. Yup, it was way overblown! I am still waiting for half those New Yorkers to show some bias towards NY teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I think bounties should be incorporated into official NFL stats and player compensation packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ILK Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 you're such an angry young man. leave work now - go have a drink - decompress, sir. LOL you have a very dark soul. I know you won't admit it but I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I am still looking for someone to finally win a Carnegie Deli Cheesecake Bounty, too many pussies in NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Classic, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 They killed Favre that year in the NFCC, now we find out there was a 10G bounty for Favre...wow, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LottsMissingFingerTip Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 MONSTERS OF THE MIDWAY Its all about money. If the NFL wasn't sued by 60 something year old players, they would give two sh*ts about illegal hits and concussions...they'd be organizing them for one of the stupid NFL top ten hits of 2011 shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 the word disappointed has been thrown around, are they disappointed they got caught? Get up close to the game, this is not surprising. on a day with all these franchise tags this barely registers for me as a news story. A defensive locker room breeds some interesting characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 This will only get worse for the Saints. After the NFL gets done with them, I can see other teams (especially those in the NFC South) going out for a little revenge. They're facing an 8-8 season at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 This could destroy the saints for years especially if Brees and Colston decide to leave on top of it. Didn't something major happen to a pro team along time ago that killed the team, I think it was in baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 this is really a terrible reflection of win at any cost. Society needs to do better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightCash Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 They killed Favre that year in the NFCC, now we find out there was a 10G bounty for Favre...wow, just wow. Exactly. That is what stands out to me the most about this. I remember ESPN talking about how the Saints were destroying QB's that playoff run. Warner got killed also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 this is really a terrible reflection of win at any cost. Society needs to do better Humans lie, steal and cheat. They always have and always will. The problem isn't cheating it's getting caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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