Joe Jets fan Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 back to having a great line. Everything sets up if this is our first priority, running the ball and giving Mark a little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Agreed.... which means the Jets wont make it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Agreed.... which means the Jets wont make it happen HEY!!! Today is a day for dreams. Don't you dare take today away from us. I choose to believe the Jets will fill every single need with the best possible fit for the right price dammit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston would be a welcome addition if he came at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston would be a welcome addition if he came at the right price. This fell right into our laps this should be priority number one because not only does it solidify our O-line it gives us a solid back up situation as well. On the other hand if the Jets do want this guy they will most likely over pay for him. GREENBEAN I will not take away your hope, Im hopeing as well my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Top 5 RT in the NFL, I would be OK paying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 This fell right into our laps this should be priority number one because not only does it solidify our O-line it gives us a solid back up situation as well. On the other hand if the Jets do want this guy they will most likely over pay for him. GREENBEAN I will not take away your hope, Im hopeing as well my friend I agree, but it depends. If someone with a ton of cap space is willing to fork over $8-9M/year for Winston then they can have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Can he man block. He is excellent in zone, can he do it in man. I know the transition can be easier from zone to man, IF he has the athleticism to beat his individual one on one. I would imagine he can make the transition, give em a strong look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I agree, but it depends. If someone with a ton of cap space is willing to fork over $8-9M/year for Winston then they can have him. Yeah this might be the case with the Dolphins but they are still pushing for Manning and if not him they will probably push for Flynn I would think they do that first before getting the RT .... how much room do they have ? I thought I read they had some good cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston would be a welcome addition if he came at the right price. Too bad Tanny guaranteeing $2.5 million this season will likely prevent the Jets from signing Winston at the right price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I did a little more research into Winston. Turns out run blocking is actually his strength and pass blocking was his weakness (i thought it was opposite). He had several bad holding penalties this season. He gave up 7 sacks. He was due 6 mil salary (roughly 3x more than Hunter) and could likely earn more on the open market. Houston fans thought he was too talkative on radio shows and should have been focusing on his play more than his media career. Overall he was great in 2009 and 2010 but 2011 was somewhat of a down season. to say he's a top 5 or top 10 RT is his reputation, but those numbers don't bear out in 2011 (he was neither in the top 20 OT or the bottom 20 OT in PFF rankings). the Texans were over the cap and they needed to cut Winston and Leinart to get under the cap (possibly to try to resign Mario williams?). I don't have a conclusion either way as to what the Jets should pursue Winston or not... just thought i'd throw that out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Turns out run blocking is actually his strength and pass blocking was his weakness (i thought it was opposite). He had several bad penalties this season. He gave up 7 sacks. He was due 6 mil salary and could likely earn more on the open market. Houston fans thought he was too talkative on radio shows and should have been focusing on his play more than his media career. Overall he was great in 2009 and 2010 but 2011 was somewhat of a down season. to say he's a top 5 or top 10 RT is his reputation, but those numbers don't bear out in 2011 (he was neither in the top 20 OT or the bottom 20 OT in PFF rankings). Sounds like a born Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 also just to add the Jets run both Man and Zone blocking. Most teams do run both looks. The exceptions are teams like HOU, DEN and WAS who specialize mostly in zone. but ideally the OL can change it up and that can create big holes (Defense expecting a zone scheme, gets blocked man). It's even the type of situation where Mangold can change the type of blocking pre-snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I don't have a conclusion either way as to what the Jets should pursue Winston or not... just thought i'd throw that out there. With a couple of interesting RT options on the FA market who are also young, he's not the slam dunk must sign most are making him out to be. I think Collins from the Bengals might/would fit us a little better in both cost and skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Too bad Tanny guaranteeing $2.5 million this season will likely prevent the Jets from signing Winston at the right price. Not really. His price will be what his price will be. If we really came down to that last million or so because of Hunter there are always ways of clearing that much space or structuring Winston's contract differently. He'll either be reasonable for his value or he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 We already have a post about this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 I see that now but since the tittle only said "sign this beast" which is sometimes real and sometimes crap I did not open it, this one everyone knows what it is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 back to having a great line. Everything sets up if this is our first priority, running the ball and giving Mark a little time. Winston is visiting Miami first. With them trading away Marshall I think the fins are going to try hard to sign this guy in order to give Manning that protection. I think this is going to be the year that miami is the splash free agency team. I think they're doing everything to get Winston, Manning and Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Phins will get'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston is visiting Miami first. With them trading away Marshall I think the fins are going to try hard to sign this guy in order to give Manning that protection. I think this is going to be the year that miami is the splash free agency team. I think they're doing everything to get Winston, Manning and Wayne. ArmandoSalguero Beat Writer / Columnist Eric Winston says on Sirius that he is flying to Miami TONIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Zone blocker. Can't win with him, won't play with him (in the voice of M. singletary). Not worth what he'll cost IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 visiting miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I did a little more research into Winston. Turns out run blocking is actually his strength and pass blocking was his weakness (i thought it was opposite). He had several bad holding penalties this season. He gave up 7 sacks. He was due 6 mil salary (roughly 3x more than Hunter) and could likely earn more on the open market. Houston fans thought he was too talkative on radio shows and should have been focusing on his play more than his media career. Overall he was great in 2009 and 2010 but 2011 was somewhat of a down season. to say he's a top 5 or top 10 RT is his reputation, but those numbers don't bear out in 2011 (he was neither in the top 20 OT or the bottom 20 OT in PFF rankings). the Texans were over the cap and they needed to cut Winston and Leinart to get under the cap (possibly to try to resign Mario williams?). I don't have a conclusion either way as to what the Jets should pursue Winston or not... just thought i'd throw that out there. Thanks for some solid facts. It's knocked me off my initial "sign this beast" bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 visiting miami Money being equal from all offers, being a hurricane would probably tip the scale towards the fins. Given the cap space and gaping hole at RT, i would imagine the fins would be the highest bidder and most likely ideal destination for winston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 TheJetsStream Beat Writer / Columnist RT @ProFootballTalk Eric Winston has visits lined up with Dolphins, Chiefs, Rams, per league source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 We already have a post about this... Hater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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