Ryno the Jet Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Oh brother... http://once.unicornmedia.com/now/od/auto/4d993388-8b49-4f34-9e48-87906e690281/ba3bbb35-473a-4af7-a649-54de157a3f99/628e0a3b-a3c5-4feb-a233-ee08ba761744/content.once?UMADPARAMreferer=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8183702&UMADPARAMcsid=espnmobileweb:nfl:index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Yes, I know. We've already established we're going to the ship this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I love Rex's goofy logic in this. Sanchez was one of the best redzone QBs last year in terms of TD percentage, but the Jets had a hard time running the ball. So in order to help that running deficiency, Rex is putting Tebow out that at the sake of losing their high TD percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Any good QB's coming out in 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 ESPN has it wrong. What I read was that Tebow is being prepared as a red zone runner. Not the QB who only plays in the red zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 ESPN has it wrong. What I read was that Tebow is being prepared as a red zone runner. Not the QB who only plays in the red zone. Wheel, reinvented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno the Jet Posted July 20, 2012 Author Share Posted July 20, 2012 ESPN has it wrong. What I read was that Tebow is being prepared as a red zone runner. Not the QB who only plays in the red zone. Where did you read it? Can't find anything else on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I think I came across it like 2-3 days ago on either rotoworld or a similar fantasy site. Let me see if I can re-find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I will believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I can't find it, basically it said "Tebow has been asked to bulk up to 250 because he'll be used as a runner in the red zone, and at the goal line" and that "it will lower the ceiling on Shonn Greene's TD potential" since it was fantasy football related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I will believe it when I see it. It's amusing how in denial Jets fans seem to be about what Tebow does for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 It's amusing how in denial Jets fans seem to be about what Tebow does for a living. I didn't read that article. But what I was told it said was that Tebow would take every red zone snap at QB. That isn't going to happen. But like I said, I didn't read that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Chalk "reporting" on the long list of words that have been watered down. That said, he'll probably be a big part of the GL and short offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Jump pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 he will get short yardage runs 4th down runs 2 pt conversions everyone settle down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Having tebow as rb/fb on short yardage/goal line makes sense to me will give Sanchez more time and help receivers get open. Don't really see what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I don't understand what all the commotion is about... We don't exactly have a manning at qb... Heck we don't even have a hasselbeck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I don't understand what all the commotion is about... We don't exactly have a manning at qb... Heck we don't even have a hasselbeck quarterback. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 I will believe it when I see it. bingo. enough of this crap already. Lets just see what happens in actual games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 If this was true. Does Sanchez keep changing the play so he can throw it to the end zone every time he gets close to the red zone. So he does not have to come out?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The Jets want Sanchez to succeed as their QB. They're not pulling him in the redzone. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnj18 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The Jets want Sanchez to succeed as their QB. They're not pulling him in the redzone. Next. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnj18 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Every week there will be a new "need" for Teblow. My needs?? Yea, well, he can't fulfill those needs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Every week there will be a new "need" for Teblow. My needs?? Yea, well, he can't fulfill those needs.... he may be able to. but he wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The Jets want Sanchez to succeed as their QB. They're not pulling him in the redzone. Next. Rex Ryan wants Rex Ryan to succeed. Tony Sparano wants Tony Sparano to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Rex Ryan wants Rex Ryan to succeed. Tony Sparano wants Tony Sparano to succeed. And Sanchez was very good in the redzone last year, so why would they fvck with that? We go thru complaints here so fast -especially about Sanchez- that you seem to've forgotten one from about four months ago. The one where they gave Sanchez a three year, $40M extension with half of it fully guaranteed. There's no way they're pulling him in the redzone with any regularity. They want him to throw TD passes, maybe even to Tebow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnj18 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 he may be able to. but he wont No way in hell can he fulfill my needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 And Sanchez was very good in the redzone last year, so why would they fvck with that? We go thru complaints here so fast -especially about Sanchez- that you seem to've forgotten one from about four months ago. The one where they gave Sanchez a three year, $40M extension with half of it fully guaranteed. There's no way they're pulling him in the redzone with any regularity. They want him to throw TD passes, maybe even to Tebow. The extension also makes him eminently more cuttable sooner rather than later, iirc. My point was that the wagons aren't circled around Sanchez anymore, and if he's not vastly improved, Rex is running out of time to nurture him through any further growing pains. Obviously, the Jets want Sanchez to succeed, but it won't come at the cost of losing games at this point. The simple fact that Tebow is on the roster is testament to that. And I still don't subscribe to the belief that Tebow is here to play TE or HBack. He's never done it, and he's not athletic enough to do it anyway. He's a stiff 4.7/40 guy who gets his yardage on scrambles. Getting himself open in the pattern, or picking up yardage running out of the I is a different world. Hell, if they were looking for an athletic conversion player who could primarily play TE and still take a few snaps under center, Vince Young was their best option by far. Tebow is here to play QB, whether it be for five snaps or twenty. If there's a few novelty plays where he lines up in the backfield, I don't see how that's using him to the best of his ability. It sounds cool, but it's not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 No way in hell can he fulfill my needs. I can fulfill 46.7% of your needs. Call me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I didn't read that article. But what I was told it said was that Tebow would take every red zone snap at QB. That isn't going to happen. But like I said, I didn't read that article. The Jets bringing in Tebow would be like your wife hiring a hunky, live-in pool boy. You can pretend all you want that he's just there to clean the pool, but you'd just be kidding yourself. Also, in this analogy, you don't even own a pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The Jets bringing in Tebow would be like your wife hiring a hunky, live-in pool boy. You can pretend all you want that he's just there to clean the pool, but you'd just be kidding yourself. Also, in this analogy, you don't even own a pool. Tebow is the backup quarterback. The thought of him starting games here other than due to injury is as unlikely as you not being grossed out by girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 No way in hell can he fulfill my needs. Yeah Tebow would call you in the morning and treat you with respect. Clearly not your type, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The extension also makes him eminently more cuttable sooner rather than later, iirc. No. The benefit to the Jets was the drop in his 2012 cap number. There would still be a charge in excess of $4M if they opted to cut him next year. My point was that the wagons aren't circled around Sanchez anymore, and if he's not vastly improved, Rex is running out of time to nurture him through any further growing pains. Obviously, the Jets want Sanchez to succeed, but it won't come at the cost of losing games at this point. The simple fact that Tebow is on the roster is testament to that. And I still don't subscribe to the belief that Tebow is here to play TE or HBack. He's never done it, and he's not athletic enough to do it anyway. He's a stiff 4.7/40 guy who gets his yardage on scrambles. Getting himself open in the pattern, or picking up yardage running out of the I is a different world. Hell, if they were looking for an athletic conversion player who could primarily play TE and still take a few snaps under center, Vince Young was their best option by far. Tebow is here to play QB, whether it be for five snaps or twenty. If there's a few novelty plays where he lines up in the backfield, I don't see how that's using him to the best of his ability. It sounds cool, but it's not realistic. Rex bought himself and Sanchez an extra year by changing offensive coordinators. It's the old Herm Edwards trick, but Rex has even more clout with his two AFC Championship appearances. He's not at risk of losing his job unless there's a massive implosion. Barring that, they'll give Sanchez the whole season, IMHO. There's just no way they're planning now to pull him at QB when they're in the redzone. That would pretty much guarantee that he'd finish the season with more ints than TDs, and they're not going to sabotage him that way before the season even begins. I hear you on Tebow, and I think they see him as primarily a wildcat guy, but that he'll get work in those HBack, FB type roles, too. There's no doubt the guy has a nose for the endzone, or that Shonn Greene doesn't. I can see Tebow and his big heart (and 250lb. frame) getting a good amount of short yardage carries for the Jets this year. I also think the team will like using him as a decoy, as he's sure to get a ton of attention whenever he's on the field at the same time as Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Rex bought himself and Sanchez an extra year by changing offensive coordinators. It's the old Herm Edwards trick, but Rex has even more clout with his two AFC Championship appearances. He's not at risk of losing his job unless there's a massive implosion. Barring that, they'll give Sanchez the whole season, IMHO. There's just no way they're planning now to pull him at QB when they're in the redzone. That would pretty much guarantee that he'd finish the season with more ints than TDs, and they're not going to sabotage him that way before the season even begins. Spot on except for 1 part.. Sanchez will be passing inside the 10 just like last year, they will look to keep his numbers healthy.. That being said, If the defense is average suddenly and we start losing more then we win, Sanchez will get the hook. I don't think he has the whole year, not at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I don't understand what all the commotion is about... We don't exactly have a manning at qb... Heck we don't even have a hasselbeck We could have had a manning is we weren't cheap. Don't believe for a second that he didn't want to come. He wanted top dollar and our owner was cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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