SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Is the question we have been asking ourselves and each other ever since we all started getting together on Jets' message boards. I know for a lot of us it began in the mid-to late 90's on The old Rivals Boards, then Matt's Greenhouse and Addicts, JI, and then/now; here-on Jets nation. It seems that the internet started to hit it's stride just as Woody Johnson was awarded the New York Jets over The Dolan group. Every season since, we have all been sitting at our keyboards wondering why whenever Free Agency starts in March the Jets, having all of these needs and are NEVER in the running for any of the top tiered players. It's always seems to be the same teams that get the big name FA players. It's always like Denver or Pittsburgh, New England, and even Washington for some reason (crazy rich owner?) was ALWAYS a player. The Jets are the team that has always had guys say thanks but no thanks-the Jets idea of a big free agency signing is RE-signing guys they let go at a better price. The biggest problem that faces our team and GM, is a simple one; Less and less people even want to play for the New York Jets anymore. Amazingly a few years ago the Jets had 10 million dollars of cap space and couldn't even sign a decent wide receiver. Whatever the reasons are, and we can come up a bunch of them ourselves. Be it the division we're in, the owner we have, the HC we have, the market we're in, the stadium we continue to share with a better team (don't even start) or some perceived jinx associated with this team, we are always left to pick up the scraps. All I know is one thing: the Jets and GM John Idzik better start being really good at drafting starting players or we will continue to be the Cleveland Browns or worse year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 SO MANY FEELS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Calvin Pace Allen Faneca Damien Woody Kris Jenkins Bart Scott Santonio Holmes Antonio Cromartie Laron Landry Tim Tebow LT Trevor Price Tony Richardson Brett Farve Thomas Jones We never sign good big name players. Stupid Idzik and Eric Decker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Calvin Pace Allen Faneca Damien Woody Kris Jenkins Bart Scott Santonio Holmes Antonio Cromartie Laron Landry Tim Tebow No, bad JiF LT Trevor Price Tony Richardson Brett Farve Thomas Jones We never sign good players. Stupid Idzik and Eric Decker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Has anyone ever looked at the bright side and say THANK YOU GOD that we are not owned by the Dolans? I do every morning. Can you even imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Is the question we have been asking ourselves and each other ever since we all started getting together on Jets' message boards. I know for a lot of us it began in the mid-to late 90's on The old Rivals Boards, then Matt's Greenhouse and Addicts, JI, and then/now; here-on Jets nation. It seems that the internet started to hit it's stride just as Woody Johnson was awarded the New York Jets over The Dolan group. Every season since, we have all been sitting at our keyboards wondering why whenever Free Agency starts in March the Jets, having all of these needs and are NEVER in the running for any of the top tiered players. It's always seems to be the same teams that get the big name FA players. It's always like Denver or Pittsburgh, New England, and even Washington for some reason (crazy rich owner?) was ALWAYS a player. The Jets are the team that has always had guys say thanks but no thanks-the Jets idea of a big free agency signing is RE-signing guys they let go at a better price. The biggest problem that faces our team and GM, is a simple one; Less and less people even want to play for the New York Jets anymore. Amazingly a few years ago the Jets had 10 million dollars of cap space and couldn't even sign a decent wide receiver. Whatever the reasons are, and we can come up a bunch of them ourselves. Be it the division we're in, the owner we have, the HC we have, the market we're in, the stadium we continue to share with a better team (don't even start) or some perceived jinx associated with this team, we are always left to pick up the scraps. All I know is one thing: the Jets and GM John Idzik better start being really good at drafting starting players or we will continue to be the Cleveland Browns or worse year after year. Do you really long for the "good old days" of the Leon Hess era? How bad is your memory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Has anyone ever looked at the bright side and say THANK YOU GOD that we are not owned by the Dolans? I do every morning. Can you even imagine? The Dolans have completely ruined my enjoyment of basketball. I am pretty much no longer an NBA fan at all because of James Dolan. If he owned the Jets, I might have to go Hinkley on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Has anyone ever looked at the bright side and say THANK YOU GOD that we are not owned by the Dolans? I do every morning. Can you even imagine? No, I figure we probably would still not have won a SB yet, but we WOULD have be able to watch the Jets in a cool stadium on the West side of Manhattan Island with these two words emblazoned above our heads as we walked in: JETS STADIUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Do you really long for the "good old days" of the Leon Hess era? How bad is your memory? That's not what I'm saying Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 No, I figure we probably would still not have won a SB yet, but we WOULD have be able to watch the Jets in a cool stadium on the West side of Manhattan Island with these two words emblazoned above our heads as we walked in: JETS STADIUM You give Jimmy Dolan too much credit. Leon Hess approached the Dolans about making the WSS the new Garden and the Dolans turned him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 That's not what I'm saying Joe If James Dolan owned the Jets, Isaiah Thomas would have been our team president for the last 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Calvin Pace Allen Faneca Damien Woody Kris Jenkins Bart Scott Santonio Holmes Antonio Cromartie Laron Landry Tim Tebow LT Trevor Price Tony Richardson Brett Farve Thomas Jones We never sign good big name players. Stupid Idzik and Eric Decker. Technically we traded for like 6 of those guys. #doesntcount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 No, I figure we probably would still not have won a SB yet, but we WOULD have be able to watch the Jets in a cool stadium on the West side of Manhattan Island with these two words emblazoned above our heads as we walked in: JETS STADIUM No offense, but you're dreaming if you think the Dolans would have built a $2B stadium in NYC and would not have sold the naming rights. It never would have said Jets Stadium. Never. Oh, and MetLife Stadium sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Jets have one of the longest droughts going on finding a franchise QB. Don't get me wrong, you can win without an elite guy but there is one thing the brady, brees, manning type guys usually do for you and that's keep you from those gut punching 11+ loss seasons. Thanks to our defense we are lucky to have not suffered one of those abject failure years recently. It will get awfully crowded underneath the GW bridge if we have one of those Jacksonville-type lost years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I just went back 5 years and the Jets signed NO top 50 FA's from other teams-NONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 No offense, but you're dreaming if you think the Dolans would have built a $2B stadium in NYC and would not have sold the naming rights. It never would have said Jets Stadium. Never. Oh, and MetLife Stadium sucks. OK, I'll give you that, it might have read Jet Blue Stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I just went back 5 years and the Jets signed NO top 50 FA's from other teams-NONE go back and do a little research yourself JiF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I just went back 5 years and the Jets signed NO top 50 FA's from other teams-NONE There were 2 years we were not permitted to by the CBA. After that was done, there was no cap space to do so either. We were supposed to sign a high-priced FA when we were limited to Jay Feely's contract amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 OK, I'll give you that, it might have read Jet Blue Stadium And then again, it might read MetLife Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 There were 2 years we were not permitted to by the CBA. After that was done, there was no cap space to do so either. We were supposed to sign a high-priced FA when we were limited to Jay Feely's contract amount? Players could have been cut or contracts renegotiated I'm sure...we also have to ask ourselves why ther was no cap space left? Who GOT the big re-ups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 And then again, it might read MetLife Stadium. who cares, as long as the Giants weren't in the stadium eveey other week ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 who cares, as long as the Giants weren't in the stadium eveey other week ya know? All I'm gonna say about that is if you think the PSLs and ticket prices are high for Metlife Stadium, think about what they might have been in a domed stadium in Manhattan where you wouldn't be able to tailgate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaJetsFan Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I just went back 5 years and the Jets signed NO top 50 FA's from other teams-NONE Maybe that's because all the top FAs were already ON the Jets roster? Hmmmm? Just blew your mind there, didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 More SoFlaJets whining? NO WAY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Maybe that's because all the top FAs were already ON the Jets roster? Hmmmm? Just blew your mind there, didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 More SoFlaJets whining? NO WAY!!! Who's whining idiot, I started a conversation you effing J.O.-you don't like the topic-leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 There were 2 years we were not permitted to by the CBA. After that was done, there was no cap space to do so either. We were supposed to sign a high-priced FA when we were limited to Jay Feely's contract amount? Man did I hate that guy. I mean sure, he was no Eric Smith, but he was certainly up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Man did I hate that guy. I mean sure, he was no Eric Smith, but he was certainly up there. Two words: kicking gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 All I'm gonna say about that is if you think the PSLs and ticket prices are high for Metlife Stadium, think about what they might have been in a domed stadium in Manhattan where you wouldn't be able to tailgate. I'll take the dome, no Giants and a nice west side bar restaurant with hot waitresses before the game any day, any time over freezing outside at Metlife. Have you even been to Metlife? And fork the PSLs. I only go to one or two games a year now so who cares. At this time a lot of us would prefer to watch our team lose in comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 It's a shame that Woody didn't have the juice to make the West Side stadium a reality. Part of the whole curse, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Players could have been cut or contracts renegotiated I'm sure...we also have to ask ourselves why ther was no cap space left? Who GOT the big re-ups? It's been pretty well documented here why. But off the top of my head: Revis, Sanchez, Holmes, Harris, Ferguson, Mangold, Scott, Cromartie, Jenkins. Those are just the tippy-top guys. Then there are other mid-level ones (still millions but less millions) from DeVito to Moore to Pouha and others like any years' first round picks. But 2 of those 5 years we were not allowed to sign a FA for greater $ than one we let go of signed elsewhere for. That's why in 2010 I think our big FA splash was Taylor. He was the most expensive FA we were allowed to sign because that's how much Feely got from Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 What is the last team that signed a big free agent and won a championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'll take the dome, no Giants and a nice west side bar restaurant with hot waitresses before the game any day, any time over freezing outside at Metlife. Have you even been to Metlife? And fork the PSLs. I only go to one or two games a year now so who cares. At this time a lot of us would prefer to watch our team lose in comfort. Do you live in Manhattan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 What is the last team that signed a big free agent and won a championship Saints? Though, it took a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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