Comp pick discussion thread.

[eboozer]

Brian Costello ‏@BrianCoz · 11m

Compensatory draft picks will be awarded today. Jets expected to receive 4. #nyj

Hoping we somehow get a 4th for Landry. Will be very disappointed if we only get a 5th, 6th and two 7th rounders.

[GREENBEAN]

Good. FINALLY some excitement around here.   It's been ZZZzzzzzzzzzz all week.  

[eboozer]

Hope we don't lose a draft pick with Woody's stupid comments on DeSean!! Hope we don't get nailed with tampering.

[brian101193]

4th is the highest a comp pick can be right?

 

And they are added to the end of the round so a 4th round comp is almost like the first pick in the 5th, correct?

[eboozer]

4th is the highest a comp pick can be right?

 

And they are added to the end of the round so a 4th round comp is almost like the first pick in the 5th, correct?

3rd is the highest.

 

"a 4th round comp is almost like the first pick in the 5th, correct?" and a 5th rd. comp is like a 6th.....

 

Minimum of 32 pick separation= Diluted talent pool.

[brian101193]

Thanks, cant wait to see what we get.

[eboozer]

Thanks, cant wait to see what we get.

BTW.... Welcome to the board!

[New York Mick]

Anything that takes away from Vick and DeSean threads is a welcomed addition.

[BroadwayJoe12]

Was hoping for that 4th, but still think we're gonna end up with the 5th, 6th and two 7ths as mentioned.  Outside of the 5th, if they could turn one of those picks into a decent player like Antonio Allen I'd be happy, other than that, I tend not to expect too much out of 7th round selections. Still good for specials and depth though, something that was drastically devalued in the Tanny era.

[slats]

Was hoping for that 4th, but still think we're gonna end up with the 5th, 6th and two 7ths as mentioned.  Outside of the 5th, if they could turn one of those picks into a decent player like Antonio Allen I'd be happy, other than that, I tend not to expect too much out of 7th round selections. Still good for specials and depth though, something that was drastically devalued in the Tanny era.

Those seventh round comp picks are nice for drafting those priority UDFAs that you think you won't be able to sign after the draft. West coast guys, or DTs who'd like a shot on a roster not as stocked as the Jets (at that lone position, lol), etc.

[Cmartin]

One of items on the agenda this week at the NFL owners meetings in Orlando, Fla., is the awarding of compensatory draft picks to teams that lost free agents during the previous offseason.

Any compensatory picks will be granted in addition to a team's regular rotation of selections in the draft's seven rounds. As things now stand, the Jets have eight picks in May's draft: One of their own for all seven rounds, starting with the No. 18 selection in the first round, plus an additional fourth-round pick obtained from the Bucs for last year's trade of some cornerback who's now with the Patriots.

The league does not make the formula for determining compensatory picks public, so there's a lot of murkiness surrounding how they're divvied up. There are, however, a few basic rules to keep in mind:

• The maximum number of compensatory picks any team can get is four.
• Compensatory picks cannot be traded.
• Compensatory picks are added at the end of rounds three through seven. They are not taken from other teams.
• Playing time and salary are believed to be the biggest factors in the compensatory-pick formula.

While it's not certain, the Jets last spring seemed pretty confident they would get as many as four compensatory picks, which would bring their total draft haul for this May to 12 selections:

Basically, the Jets' free-agent gains last year of linebacker Antwan Barnes and running back Mike Goodson, plus their losses of defensive end Mike DeVito (Chiefs), safety Yeremiah Bell (Cardinals), tight end Dustin Keller (Dolphins), safety LaRon Landry (Colts), guard Matt Slauson (Bears), and running back Shonn Greene (Titans) all seem to have some impact on how many compensatory picks they stand to get.

But, again, the formula is tough to pin down because of salary and playing-time considerations, so it's possible the Jets could get less than four additional choices based on whether any of the above players qualify for the compensatory-pick pool. I recommend you read The Jets Blog's excellent detailed explanation of how it all works, with an updated rundown here. While taking care to note their forecast is not air-tight, The Jets Blog projected the Jets getting one compensatory pick at the end of the fourth round, another at the end of the fifth round, and two at the end of the seventh round.

We'll all know for sure soon enough.

 

[Greenseed4]

Jets Blog says: 1 (4th), 1 (5th),  2 (7th's)

http://thejetsblog.com/bga/compensatory-picks-to-be-announced-today/

 

Philly.com says: 1( 5th), 3 (6th's)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003927-nfl-compensatory-picks-2014-rules-formula-explanation-and-latest-projections

 

 

 

Three picks in the fourth round would be huge.  This is a good year to get players on fliers:

-Colt Lylera, TE

-Isaiah Crowell,RB

-Jeff Janis, WR

-Hakeem Smith, S

[bitonti]

 

Basically, the Jets' free-agent gains last year of linebacker Antwan Barnes and running back Mike Goodson,  

 

 

what a terrible signing Mike Goodson was

[jgb]

Jets Blog says: 1 (4th), 1 (5th),  2 (7th's)

http://thejetsblog.com/bga/compensatory-picks-to-be-announced-today/

 

Philly.com says: 1( 5th), 3 (6th's)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003927-nfl-compensatory-picks-2014-rules-formula-explanation-and-latest-projections

 

 

 

Three picks in the fourth round would be huge.  This is a good year to get players on fliers:

-Colt Lylera, TE

-Isaiah Crowell,RB

-Jeff Janis, WR

-Hakeem Smith, S

 

hockey players?

 

[eboozer]

Jets Blog says: 1 (4th), 1 (5th),  2 (7th's)

http://thejetsblog.com/bga/compensatory-picks-to-be-announced-today/

 

Philly.com says: 1( 5th), 3 (6th's)

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003927-nfl-compensatory-picks-2014-rules-formula-explanation-and-latest-projections

 

 

 

Three picks in the fourth round would be huge.  This is a good year to get players on fliers:

-Colt Lylera, TE

-Isaiah Crowell,RB

-Jeff Janis, WR

-Hakeem Smith, S

C'mon...... Jetsblog!

 

That third 4th would be awesome!!

 

Do the Jets get to present their case concerning these picks? Does Idzik's guy go in there with charts, graphs and player comparisons to get the best deal? 

[Greenseed4]

C'mon...... Jetsblog!

 

That third 4th would be awesome!!

 

Do the Jets get to present their case concerning these picks? Does Idzik's guy go in there with charts, graphs and player comparisons to get the best deal? 

 

No, but the picks come out today so we'll all know what we're dealing with. 

[eboozer]

No, but the picks come out today so we'll all know what we're dealing with. 

Who decides? Bob Kraft and Mr. Rooney?

 

We're screwed!

[faba]

NFL Announces 32 Compensatory Draft Choices to 13 Clubs

A total of 32 compensatory choices in the 2014 NFL Draft have been awarded to 13 teams, the NFL announced today.

Under the rules for compensatory draft selections, a team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks.

The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four. The 32 compensatory choices announced today will supplement the 224 choices in the seven rounds of the 2014 NFL Draft (May 8-10), which will kick off in primetime for the fifth consecutive year.

The first round will be held on Thursday, May 8 and begin at 8:00 PM ET. The second and third rounds are set for Friday, May 9 at 7:00 PM ET followed by rounds 4-7 on Saturday, May 10 at 12:00 PM ET.

This year, the compensatory picks will be positioned within the third through seventh rounds based on the value of the compensatory free agents lost.

Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.

The NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement limits the number of compensatory picks to the number of clubs then in the league (32). This year, three clubs – Chicago, Atlanta and Cincinnati – qualified for compensatory picks under the net loss formula but will not receive those picks because they ranked 33rd, 34th and 35th, respectively, among all compensatory picks. Atlanta and Cincinnati will receive picks for other compensatory free agents lost who ranked within the top 32 compensatory picks.

A fourth club, Oakland, did not suffer a net loss of compensatory free agents last year but qualified for a compensatory pick because the compensatory free agents lost by the club were ranked higher than the ones they signed (by a specified points differential based upon salary and playing time). Because such picks are awarded after all compensatory picks at the end of the seventh round have been made, Oakland’s pick effectively ranked 36th among all compensatory picks, so the club will not receive a selection.

For the complete release, click here

[faba]

Jets get 4 picks one fourth and three 6th rounders

[Arsis]

Jets get 4 picks one fourth and three 6th rounders

Not bad at all.

[Greenseed4]

Fourth round: pick 137

Sixth round: pick 209 

Sixth round: pick 210

Sixth round: pick 213

 

 

 

F*ck yeah!!   I get a boner for back-to-back picks.  I dunno why. 

[BroadwayJoe12]

Fourth round: pick 137

Sixth round: pick 209 

Sixth round: pick 210

Sixth round: pick 213

 

 

 

F*ck yeah!!   I get a boner for back-to-back picks.  I dunno why. 

 

Same here.

 

 

While nothing to do with actual football, it's why if I don't get one of the first three picks in fantasy football, I sometimes prefer getting 10 and 11 or 12 and 13, depending on the league that I'm in. 

[Greenseed4]

San Francisco received a third round comp, netting them 2 picks in the second round, and 3 picks in the third round.  That's a lot of ammo to move around. 

I hope they like the #18 selection pool. 

[THOP]

In the last 10 years we have had 14 comp picks. 4 of them this year.  Looks like idzik knows what he is doing.

[Greenseed4]

THREE picks in the fourth round!!!  I'm letting it settle in.  That's 6 picks in the first four rounds, potentially 7 if we can swing a trade back. 

[eboozer]

San Francisco received a third round comp, netting them 2 picks in the second round, and 3 picks in the third round.  That's a lot of ammo to move around. 

I hope they like the #18 selection pool. 

I've heard they're looking for WR help. Maybe someone they like is at 18

 

THREE picks in the fourth round!!!  I'm letting it settle in.  That's 6 picks in the first four rounds, potentially 7 if we can swing a trade back. 

It could also allow us to move back into the mid to late 3rd rd. and still have a 4th round pick.

"Me likes it"

[Greenseed4]

I've heard they're looking for WR help. Maybe someone they like is at 18

 

I'm guessing they would have their pick of the litter of WRs not named Watkins or Evans. 

They might also get giddy about the 2nd best CB prospect ( one of Gilbert or Dennard should be there) or S (I think one of Clinton-Dix or Pryor will be there).

 

It would help if we make a move on Desean Jackson being as we need the WR help more than anyone else in the league, but even if we don't the flurry of guys available at the 1-2 fringe are legit.  (Moncrief, Adams, Matthews, Allen, Cooks, OBJ) and extra picks can go a long way at improving this roster, especially if it's the "lifeline" of our roster.  

[THOP]

Interesting bit of information looking at the history of comp picks.

 List of the last 10 Superbowl champs along with where they rank in total comp picks from the last 20 years.

 

Seattle          14th

Baltimore      1st

NY Giants     10th

Green Bay     3rd

New Orleans 29th

Pittsburg        7th

NY Giants      10th

Indianapolis    13th

Pittsburg         7th

New England  8th

 

That averages out to about 10th place. So if Idzik keeps doing what he is doing the odds are in our favor to win.

Isn't it strange the lengths Jets fans will go to find the silver lining.

[eboozer]

So Baltimore gains a 3rd round comp and 4th rd. comp pick to go along with their #17, #48, #79 and #112

They have some ammo to move up in this draft.

Sucks they pick before us.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter · 10m

4th-round compensatory picks go to Detroit, Baltimore, Houston, Detroit, NYJ, Baltimore, Atlanta and New England.

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter · 12m

3rd-round compensatory picks go to Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and SF.

[TnT]

LOVE this!

If Idzik can pull 2 starting caliber players out of this...Huge success!

[Stonehands]

Just want to add that Comp picks cannot be traded.

[eboozer]

Full 7 Rd. order of picks.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2014/story/_/id/10628041/2014-nfl-draft-seven-round-order

Below is the complete seven-round 2014 NFL draft order. Compensatory picks were awarded to teams that lost more or better compensatory free agents than they acquired in the previous year. A team can receive a maximum of four compensatory picks.

Round 1


1 1 Houston Texans
2 2 St. Louis Rams (from Washington)
3 3 Jacksonville Jaguars
4 4 Cleveland Browns
5 5 Oakland Raiders
6 6 Atlanta Falcons
7 7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8 8 Minnesota Vikings
9 9 Buffalo Bills
10 10 Detroit Lions
11 11 Tennessee Titans
12 12 New York Giants
13 13 St. Louis Rams
14 14 Chicago Bears
15 15 Pittsburgh Steelers
16 16 Dallas Cowboys
17 17 Baltimore Ravens
18 18 New York Jets
19 19 Miami Dolphins
20 20 Arizona Cardinals
21 21 Green Bay Packers
22 22 Philadelphia Eagles
23 23 Kansas City Chiefs
24 24 Cincinnati Bengals
25 25 San Diego Chargers
26 26 Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis)
27 27 New Orleans Saints
28 28 Carolina Panthers
29 29 New England Patriots
30 30 San Francisco 49ers
31 31 Denver Broncos
32 32 Seattle Seahawks


Round 2


1 33 Houston Texans
2 34 Washington Redskins
3 35 Cleveland Browns
4 36 Oakland Raiders
5 37 Atlanta Falcons
6 38 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 39 Jacksonville Jaguars
8 40 Minnesota Vikings
9 41 Buffalo Bills
10 42 Tennessee Titans
11 43 New York Giants
12 44 St. Louis Rams
13 45 Detroit Lions
14 46 Pittsburgh Steelers
15 47 Dallas Cowboys
16 48 Baltimore Ravens
17 49 New York Jets
18 50 Miami Dolphins
19 51 Chicago Bears
20 52 Arizona Cardinals
21 53 Green Bay Packers
22 54 Philadelphia Eagles
23 55 Cincinnati Bengals
24 56 San Francisco 49ers (from Kansas City)
25 57 San Diego Chargers
26 58 New Orleans Saints
27 59 Indianapolis Colts
28 60 Carolina Panthers
29 61 San Francisco 49ers
30 62 New England Patriots
31 63 Denver Broncos
32 64 Seattle Seahawks


Round 3


1 65 Houston Texans
2 66 Washington Redskins
3 67 Oakland Raiders
4 68 Atlanta Falcons
5 69 New York Jets (from Tampa Bay)
6 70 Jacksonville Jaguars
7 71 Cleveland Browns
8 72 Minnesota Vikings
9 73 Buffalo Bills
10 74 New York Giants
11 75 St. Louis Rams
12 76 Detroit Lions
13 77 San Francisco 49ers (from Tennessee)
14 78 Dallas Cowboys
15 79 Baltimore Ravens
16 80 New York Jets
17 81 Miami Dolphins
18 82 Chicago Bears
19 83 Cleveland Browns (from Pittsburgh)
20 84 Arizona Cardinals
21 85 Green Bay Packers
22 86 Philadelphia Eagles
23 87 Kansas City Chiefs
24 88 Cincinnati Bengals
25 89 San Diego Chargers
26 90 Indianapolis Colts
27 91 New Orleans Saints
28 92 Carolina Panthers
29 93 New England Patriots
30 94 San Francisco 49ers
31 95 Denver Broncos
32 96 Minnesota Vikings (from Seattle)
33 97 Pittsburgh Steelers (compensatory)
34 98 Green Bay Packers (compensatory)
35 99 Baltimore Ravens (compensatory)
36 100 San Francisco 49ers (compensatory)

Round 4


1 101 Houston Texans
2 102 Washington Redskins
3 103 Atlanta Falcons
4 104 Tampa Bay Buccaneers   **** This should be Jets pick!!
5 105 Jacksonville Jaguars
6 106 Cleveland Browns
7 107 Oakland Raiders
8 108 Minnesota Vikings
9 109 Buffalo Bills
10 110 St. Louis Rams
11 111 Detroit Lions
12 112 Tennessee Titans
13 113 New York Giants
14 114 Jacksonville Jaguars (from Baltimore)
15 115 New York Jets
16 116 Miami Dolphins
17 117 Chicago Bears
18 118 Pittsburgh Steelers
19 119 Dallas Cowboys
20 120 Arizona Cardinals
21 121 Green Bay Packers
22 122 Philadelphia Eagles
23 123 Cincinnati Bengals
24 124 Kansas City Chiefs
25 125 San Diego Chargers
26 126 New Orleans Saints
27 127 Cleveland Browns (from Indianapolis)
28 128 Carolina Panthers
29 129 San Francisco 49ers
30 130 New England Patriots
31 131 Denver Broncos
32 132 Seattle Seahawks
33 133 Detroit Lions (compensatory)
34 134 Baltimore Ravens (compensatory)
35 135 Houston Texans (compensatory)
36 136 Detroit Lions (compensatory)
37 137 New York Jets (compensatory)
38 138 Baltimore Ravens (compensatory)
39 139 Atlanta Falcons (compensatory)
40 140 New England Patriots (compensatory)


Round 5

1 141 Houston Texans
2 142 Washington Redskins
3 143 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4 144 Jacksonville Jaguars
5 145 Cleveland Browns
6 146 Seattle Seahawks (from Oakland)
7 147 Atlanta Falcons
8 148 Minnesota Vikings
9 149 Buffalo Bills
10 150 Jacksonville Jaguars (from Detroit)
11 151 Tennessee Titans
12 152 New York Giants
13 153 St. Louis Rams
14 154 New York Jets
15 155 Miami Dolphins
16 156 Chicago Bears
17 157 Pittsburgh Steelers
18 158 Dallas Cowboys
19 159 Jacksonville Jaguars (from Baltimore)
20 160 Arizona Cardinals
21 161 Green Bay Packers
22 162 Philadelphia Eagles
23 163 Kansas City Chiefs
24 164 Cincinnati Bengals
25 165 San Diego Chargers
26 166 Indianapolis Colts
27 167 New Orleans Saints
28 168 Carolina Panthers
29 169 Philadelphia Eagles (from New England)
30 170 San Francisco 49ers
31 171 Denver Broncos
32 172 Seattle Seahawks
33 173 Pittsburgh Steelers (compensatory)
34 174 New York Giants (compensatory)
35 175 Baltimore Ravens (compensatory)
36 176 Green Bay Packers (compensatory)


Round 6


1 177 Houston Texans
2 178 Washington Redskins
3 179 Jacksonville Jaguars
4 180 Cleveland Browns
5 181 Oakland Raiders
6 182 Atlanta Falcons
7 183 Chicago Bears (from Tampa Bay)
8 184 Minnesota Vikings
9 185 Buffalo Bills
10 186 Tennessee Titans
11 187 New York Giants
12 188 St. Louis Rams
13 189 Detroit Lions
14 190 Miami Dolphins
15 191 Chicago Bears
16 192 Pittsburgh Steelers
17 193 Kansas City Chiefs (from Dallas)
18 194 Baltimore Ravens
19 195 New York Jets
20 196 Arizona Cardinals
21 197 Green Bay Packers
22 198 New England Patriots (from Philadelphia)
23 199 Cincinnati Bengals
24 200 Kansas City Chiefs
25 201 San Diego Chargers
26 202 New Orleans Saints
27 203 Indianapolis Colts
28 204 Carolina Panthers
29 205 Jacksonville Jaguars (from San Francisco)
30 206 New England Patriots
31 207 Denver Broncos
32 208 Seattle Seahawks
33 209 New York Jets (compensatory)
34 210 New York Jets (compensatory)
35 211 Houston Texans (compensatory)
36 212 Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory)
37 213 New York Jets (compensatory)
38 214 St. Louis Rams (compensatory)
39 215 Pittsburgh Steelers (compensatory)

Round 7

1 216 Houston Texans
2 217 Washington Redskins
3 218 Cleveland Browns
4 219 Oakland Raiders
5 220 Atlanta Falcons
6 221 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 222 Jacksonville Jaguars
8 223 Minnesota Vikings
9 224 Buffalo Bills
10 225 Carolina Panthers (from N.Y. Giants)
11 226 St. Louis Rams
12 227 Detroit Lions
13 228 Tennessee Titans
14 229 Dallas Cowboys (from Chicago)
15 230 Pittsburgh Steelers
16 231 Dallas Cowboys
17 232 Indianapolis Colts (from Baltimore)
18 233 New York Jets
19 234 Miami Dolphins
20 235 Oakland Raiders (from Arizona)
21 236 Green Bay Packers
22 237 Philadelphia Eagles
23 238 Dallas Cowboys (from Kansas City)
24 239 Cincinnati Bengals
25 240 San Diego Chargers
26 241 St. Louis Rams (from Indianapolis)
27 242 San Francisco 49ers (from New Orleans)
28 243 San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)
29 244 New England Patriots
30 245 San Francisco 49ers
31 246 Denver Broncos
32 247 Seattle Seahawks
33 248 Dallas Cowboys (compensatory)
34 249 St. Louis Rams (compensatory)
35 250 St. Louis Rams (compensatory)
36 251 Dallas Cowboys (compensatory)
37 252 Cincinnati Bengals (compensatory)
38 253 Atlanta Falcons (compensatory)
39 254 Dallas Cowboys (compensatory)
40 255 Atlanta Falcons (compensatory)
41 256 Houston Texans (compensatory)

[slats]

Fourth round: pick 137

Sixth round: pick 209 

Sixth round: pick 210

Sixth round: pick 213

 

F*ck yeah!!   I get a boner for back-to-back picks.  I dunno why.

Better than I expected. A lot better, really.

[eboozer]

Those seventh round comp picks are nice for drafting those priority UDFAs that you think you won't be able to sign after the draft. West coast guys, or DTs who'd like a shot on a roster not as stocked as the Jets (at that lone position, lol), etc.

I guess we'd be less inclined for the UDFA at the bottom of the 6th. Still some quality @ 209, 210, 213

[LAD_Brooklyn]

I just hope we trade our 5th and 6th if it's needed to move up a handful of spots in the mid rounds.