stevegrunder Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thread Balance... In all seriousness, I don't ever remember a time in Jets history where the fan base was as divided as it is now. Seems to me that there are those who: Love Rex, Love Idzik, Love Geno - Very happy Jet fans Love Rex, Love Idzik, Hate Geno - So close, just need a QB Love Rex, Hate Idzik, Love Geno - So close, just need a non cheap GM Love Rex, Hate Idzik, Hate Geno - Not thrilled Jet fans, get Rex some players dammit! Hate Rex, Love Idzik, Love Geno - Can we get a complete HC? Hate Rex, Love Idzik, Hate Geno - In 6 years we will be unstoppable when Idzik finally gets us a QB and he is developed, and a complete HC! Hate Rex, Hate Idzik (who cares about Geno, we suck!) Obviously there are in-betweens on all of these, just way too many permutations for me right now. I will say this, Rex, Idzik and Geno are following 3 guys who are among the most hated at their respective roles on the Jets of all time in Mangini, Tannenbaum and Sanchez. Fan base is all over the place. I think part of this is because Idzik did not bring in his own HC which GM's usually do. I also think Rex is a guy who most Jet fans are emotional about, one way or another, more so than most HC's. Next few years are going to be very interesting years in Jet land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 . In all seriousness, I don't ever remember a time in Jets history where the fan base was as divided as it is now. You must be new around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I will say this, Rex, Idzik and Geno are following 3 guys who are among the most hated at their respective roles on the Jets of all time in Mangini, Tannenbaum and Sanchez. And each of those 3 have their fans here who wish he was still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 You must be new around here. Yeah, I am new around here, but been a die hard Jets fan since the mid 70's. The closest time to this I can recall was Herm/Badway, but most fans hated Herm, and most fans hated Badway. I think some liked them, but nobody really loved those guys. Rex is truly loved, and it seems Idzik is too, but also both are passionately hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrunder Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 And each of those 3 have their fans here who wish he was still here. Really? Must be the very small minority, I have not seen one real pro Sanchez, Mangini or Tannenbaum thread. A few that have been not terribly negative, or inpartial, but none positive on any of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Really? Must be the very small minority, I have not seen one real pro Sanchez, Mangini or Tannenbaum thread. A few that have been not terribly negative, or inpartial, but none positive on any of those guys. Look harder. And put a metal plate behind that bullseye on your back, for your own safety. The angry "those were the days" fans, who despise any/all of the 3 you like, will see this as a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I see great things for this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, I am new around here, but been a die hard Jets fan since the mid 70's. The closest time to this I can recall was Herm/Badway, but most fans hated Herm, and most fans hated Badway. I think some liked them, but nobody really loved those guys. Rex is truly loved, and it seems Idzik is too, but also both are passionately hated. Outside of that not so stoic guy, I'm not seeing a lot of Idzik hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 99.999% of the fan base loves Idzik and would love to see Rex fail, looks like Rex against the world again folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 99.999% of the fan base loves Idzik and would love to see Rex fail, looks like Rex against the world again folks You're revealing our plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 This was going to be Sanchise's year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 My view: I like Rex, I believe in Idziks plan to build through the draft, and I'm hoping Geno is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 My view: I like Rex, I believe in Idziks plan to build through the draft, and I'm hoping Geno is the man. Yeah, this draft class is lighting it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, this draft class is lighting it up. I just woke up... How many games did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, this draft class is lighting it up. I thought the class of '13 had some key players for the future of this franchise. So far the class of '14 hasn't been "lighting it up" but its August 13th, give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just woke up... How many games did I miss? Damn, marriage must be treating you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just woke up... How many games did I miss? I thought the class of '13 had some key players for the future of this franchise. So far the class of '14 hasn't been "lighting it up" but its August 13th, give me a break. Oh, you mean there is no evidence either way? Tell me more about this confidence concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 You'd have to be a complete lunatic to "love" Geno, but "hate" Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Oh, you mean there is no evidence either way? Tell me more about this confidence concept. Isn't industry standard to wait 3 years before truly judging a draft pick/class? Tell me, is it too soon to call next years 1st round pick a bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 You'd have to be a complete lunatic to "love" Geno, but "hate" Idzik. WHAT THE **** IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!?!?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Isn't industry standard to wait 3 years before truly judging a draft pick/class? Tell me, is it too soon to call next years 1st round pick a bust? No, I think it's right on time to believe he's going to be awesome. Not sure why they haven't extended Idzik yet. He's the guy that invented building through the draft. He's like the Bill Walsh of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Outside of that not so stoic guy, I'm not seeing a lot of Idzik hate. I think you are absolutely right. there is no "hate" for idzik. I certainly don't hate idzik.he has done some good things,but just like any rookie nfl player,rookies are bound to make mistakes.some are just pointing them out,with huge amounts of resistance. but I will tell you this. there is some blind homer love for idzik that I believe is just not warranted at this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 WHAT THE **** IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!?!?!?!?! Are you a lunatic? I had no idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Are you a lunatic? I had no idea! Well that seems a tad harsh, don't you think? I simply posed a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, I am new around here, but been a die hard Jets fan since the mid 70's. The closest time to this I can recall was Herm/Badway, but most fans hated Herm, and most fans hated Badway. I think some liked them, but nobody really loved those guys. Rex is truly loved, and it seems Idzik is too, but also both are passionately hated. I liked Herm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 WHAT THE **** IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?!?!?!?!?! Well that seems a tad harsh, don't you think? I simply posed a question. Are you off your meds? These posts are too short! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 No, I think it's right on time to believe he's going to be awesome. Not sure why they haven't extended Idzik yet. He's the guy that invented building through the draft. He's like the Bill Walsh of that. Because this resembles anything that anyone has said anything remotely close to, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I liked Herm. Which step number is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Because this resembles anything that anyone has said anything remotely close to, ever. Youre pretending to be dense in hopes of tiring me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 PLAYER POS STATUS FROM TO YEARS DOLLARS SIGNED Aqib Talib CB Signed NE DEN 6 $57,000,000 Mar 11 Vontae Davis CB Signed IND IND 4 $36,000,000 Mar 11 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Signed DEN NYG 5 $35,000,000 Mar 17 Alterraun Verner CB Signed TEN TB 4 $25,750,000 Mar 11 Corey Graham CB Signed BAL BUF 4 $16,300,000 Mar 12 Brandon Browner CB Signed SEA NE 3 $12,350,000 Mar 14 Darrelle Revis CB Signed TB NE 1 $12,000,000 Mar 12 Captain Munnerlyn CB Signed CAR MIN 3 $11,250,000 Mar 13 Cortland Finnegan CB Signed STL MIA 2 $11,000,000 Mar 14 Tracy Porter CB Signed OAK WAS 2 $6,250,000 Mar 13 Champ Bailey CB Signed DEN NO 2 $3,750,000 Apr 4 Nolan Carroll CB Signed MIA PHI 2 $3,650,000 Mar 13 Antonio Cromartie CB Signed NYJ ARI 1 $3,500,000 Mar 20 Tarell Brown CB Signed SF OAK 1 $3,500,000 Mar 14 Charles Tillman CB Signed CHI CHI 1 $3,250,000 Mar 14 Walter Thurmond CB Signed SEA NYG 1 $3,000,000 Mar 16 Dimitri Patterson CB Signed MIA NYJ 1 $3,000,000 Apr 1 Brandon Flowers CB Signed KC SD 1 $3,000,000 Jun 24 Carlos Rogers CB Signed SF OAK 1 $2,500,000 Apr 1 Will Blackmon CB Signed JAC JAC 2 $1,875,000 Mar 11 Brandon Ghee CB Signed CIN SD 2 $1,605,000 Mar 13 Marcus Roberson CB Signed (UFDA) STL 3 $1,545,000 May 21 Isaiah Trufant CB Signed NYJ CLE 2 $1,540,000 Mar 11 for those that like to deal with facts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Youre pretending to be dense in hopes of tiring me out. gotta give him an A for effort,tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 PFF ranks the Jets offense 31st and their defense 15th. But hey, they're under the cap by a significant number... isn't that what it's all about? Let's talk about how great Idzik did this offseason with his penny pinching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 PFF ranks the Jets offense 31st and their defense 15th. But hey, they're under the cap by a significant number... isn't that what it's all about? Let's talk about how great Idzik did this offseason with his penny pinching. For this year? They haven't even played a game yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 PLAYER POS STATUS FROM TO YEARS DOLLARS SIGNED Aqib Talib CB Signed NE DEN 6 $57,000,000 Mar 11 Vontae Davis CB Signed IND IND 4 $36,000,000 Mar 11 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Signed DEN NYG 5 $35,000,000 Mar 17 Alterraun Verner CB Signed TEN TB 4 $25,750,000 Mar 11 Corey Graham CB Signed BAL BUF 4 $16,300,000 Mar 12 Brandon Browner CB Signed SEA NE 3 $12,350,000 Mar 14 Darrelle Revis CB Signed TB NE 1 $12,000,000 Mar 12 Captain Munnerlyn CB Signed CAR MIN 3 $11,250,000 Mar 13 Cortland Finnegan CB Signed STL MIA 2 $11,000,000 Mar 14 Tracy Porter CB Signed OAK WAS 2 $6,250,000 Mar 13 Champ Bailey CB Signed DEN NO 2 $3,750,000 Apr 4 Nolan Carroll CB Signed MIA PHI 2 $3,650,000 Mar 13 Antonio Cromartie CB Signed NYJ ARI 1 $3,500,000 Mar 20 Tarell Brown CB Signed SF OAK 1 $3,500,000 Mar 14 Charles Tillman CB Signed CHI CHI 1 $3,250,000 Mar 14 Walter Thurmond CB Signed SEA NYG 1 $3,000,000 Mar 16 Dimitri Patterson CB Signed MIA NYJ 1 $3,000,000 Apr 1 Brandon Flowers CB Signed KC SD 1 $3,000,000 Jun 24 Carlos Rogers CB Signed SF OAK 1 $2,500,000 Apr 1 Will Blackmon CB Signed JAC JAC 2 $1,875,000 Mar 11 Brandon Ghee CB Signed CIN SD 2 $1,605,000 Mar 13 Marcus Roberson CB Signed (UFDA) STL 3 $1,545,000 May 21 Isaiah Trufant CB Signed NYJ CLE 2 $1,540,000 Mar 11 for those that like to deal with facts ... every one of those top cb's would have doomed the jets to cap hell. absolutely no reason to spend that kinda coin, on any player mind you, witouth a legit franchise qb and knocking on the door of the superbowl. besides, the jets have converted linebacker Antonio allen that can man the position just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 For this year? They haven't even played a game yet. Yeah, for this year. It's a prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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