JetNation Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Few players on the current Jets roster should be more tuned in to Woody Johnson, Charley Casserly, Ron Wolf and Neil Glat’s coaching search than outside linebacker/defensive end/defensive tackle Quinton Coples. The former first round pick out of the University of North Carolina has had a turbulent introduction to life in the NFL for a myriad of reasons and has yet to become the player the Jets hoped he would when they drafted him with the 16th overall selection in the 2012 draft. As a rookie, Coples’ playing time was limited as he was utilized in multiple positions along the defensive line but started only two games. His part-time role saw him compile 30 tackles and 5.5 sacks. Fairly respectable production from a youngster with somewhat limited opportunities. In season two Coples underwent a transition from the defensive line to outside linebacker. Add an ankle injury early in training camp to the role change and what you had, was a player trying to learn the nuances of a new position on the fly while hobbled with an injury for much of the early part of the season. The result was a pedestrian 38 tackles and just 4.5 sacks, but expectations were raised as Coples managed at least one sack in four of the last five games to close out the season. The late surge in production left room for optimism heading toward 2014. Entering the 2014 season, Coples was healthy, at an ideal playing weight, had a year under his belt at OLB, and a full off-season to prepare. Despite all of that, and his strong finish to 2013, the results weren’t much better than the previous season. In 2014, he managed just 35 tackles and saw a slight bump in sacks with 6.5, a career best. While Coples earned high praise coming out of college due to his size at 6′ 6”/280lbs and uncanny versatility, it could be argued that his ability to play multiple positions has stunted his growth thus far. At this point, any fans holding out hope for Coples to eventually “break out” won’t have any other way to explain his underwhelming and inconsistent play thus far. With Seahawks Defensive Coordinator Dan Quinn and Buffalo Bills’ former Head Coach Doug Marrone rumored to be the current front-runners for the Jets’ coaching vacancy, Coples may have reason to be excited. Both coaches come from teams that employed a 4-3 defense in 2014. Another candidate, Arizona Defensive Coordinator Todd Bowles used a 3-4 look this past season. If either Quinn or Marrone get the nod and choose to use a 4-3, Coples may find himself once again playing with his hand in the dirt. While he has been inconsistent since entering the league three years ago, many feel Coples has done his best work up front as a defensive lineman, and the numbers support that opinion. For example, while filling in at DE for an injured Muhammad Wilkerson from weeks 13-15 this season, Coples was credited with 6 hits on the quarterback, compared to only five QB hits over the other 13 games in which he played OLB. Clearly he would have more opportunities to rush the quarterback from the DE position as pass coverage would be a rarity, but not at a ratio that one would expect three games to exceed the results yielded over the remaining 13 contests. Position changes are nothing new to Coples. As a defensive lineman in college he was moved back and forth from defensive end to defensive tackle and excelled at both. Playing DT as a Junior, Coples was All-ACC logging 59 tackles and 10 sacks. Despite that success, he was moved back to DE for his final season and tallied 55 tackles to go along with 7.5 sacks. Looking at his production in both college and the NFL, it’s fair to say that if Coples ever does “get it”, the best chance he’ll have is playing for a coach who puts an end to his days as a linebacker, and lets him get after the QB on a more regular basis. With a 4-3 alignment creating the need for an additional lineman, that may be Coples’ best shot at finally realizing his full potential. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Blame Rex. Square peg, round hole. Maybe 4-3 can save "Body like Tarzan, plays like Jane." I'm sick of speculating on this guy...actions speak louder than words, quinton. DO SOMETHING!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 has yet to become the player the Jets hoped he would The Jets in a Nutshell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 This thread is going to be like that scene in Groundhog Day when Bill Murray robs the bank truck: Cue Shane... ...a gust of wind... Cue Broadway... Cue Doris... "FELIX, DO YOU HAVE A ROLL OF QUARTERS" 3... Twooooooo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'm actually excited to see how Coples responds to a coach that won't rub his nuts every time he gets bored on the field. Whether it's Quinn or Marrone, the days of these guys getting a free ride are over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 No Means No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetdawgg Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 With the current Jets configuration of defensive players, get a 4-3 D going already. Make the changes in the LB corps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'm actually excited to see how Coples responds to a coach that won't rub his nuts every time he gets bored on the field. see that's the problem right there, focusing on the wrong end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Blame Rex. Square peg, round hole. Maybe 4-3 can save "Body like Tarzan, plays like Jane." I'm sick of speculating on this guy...actions speak louder than words, quinton. DO SOMETHING!!!! Exactly Rex ruined Vernon Gholston as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 btw as for Coples he's coming off a career best season. One of the few above average players on the team. Coples was streaky but butchered people. Had massive hit in the Jags game and ended Jake Locker's Titans career. He makes big plays. What are we complaining about again? that he's not JJ Watt? Part of the reason he doesn't play starter DE reps is because Rex had 2 legitimately better options than Coples. Not many 3-4 teams can say that. If the Jets DL stays healthy, they could be really nasty next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 btw as for Coples he's coming off a career best season. One of the few above average players on the team. Coples was streaky but butchered people. Had massive hit in the Jags game and ended Jake Locker's Titans career. He makes big plays. What are we complaining about again? that he's not JJ Watt? Part of the reason he doesn't play starter DE reps is because Rex had 2 legitimately better options than Coples. Not many 3-4 teams can say that. If the Jets DL stays healthy, they could be really nasty next year. You're relentless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 btw as for Coples he's coming off a career best season. One of the few above average players on the team. Coples was streaky but butchered people. Had massive hit in the Jags game and ended Jake Locker's Titans career. He makes big plays. What are we complaining about again? that he's not JJ Watt? Part of the reason he doesn't play starter DE reps is because Rex had 2 legitimately better options than Coples. Not many 3-4 teams can say that. If the Jets DL stays healthy, they could be really nasty next year. He's a monster. He also effectively ended MoJo Drew's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Exactly Rex ruined Vernon Gholston as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Coples is "in the midst of a breakout season" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Exactly Rex ruined Vernon Gholston as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 btw as for Coples he's coming off a career best season. One of the few above average players on the team. Coples was streaky but butchered people. Had massive hit in the Jags game and ended Jake Locker's Titans career. He makes big plays. What are we complaining about again? that he's not JJ Watt? Part of the reason he doesn't play starter DE reps is because Rex had 2 legitimately better options than Coples. Not many 3-4 teams can say that. If the Jets DL stays healthy, they could be really nasty next year. For the sake of reference, can you please list all the "above average" players (as you see it) that were on the Jets in 2014, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo69 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Coples has been good so far just not great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Exactly Rex ruined Vernon Gholston as well No but even he couldn't fix him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 btw as for Coples he's coming off a career best season. One of the few above average players on the team. Coples was streaky but butchered people. Had massive hit in the Jags game and ended Jake Locker's Titans career. He makes big plays. What are we complaining about again? that he's not JJ Watt? Part of the reason he doesn't play starter DE reps is because Rex had 2 legitimately better options than Coples. Not many 3-4 teams can say that. If the Jets DL stays healthy, they could be really nasty next year. He's no two-time Defensive Player of the Week, that's for damn sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Coples' hand should be in the dirt 100% of the time - he's a 10 sack guy playing DE. That son of a bitch Rex Ryan had Coples playing CB for christ's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I want to see who we hire as coach, then I'll weigh in on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Douzable probably gets like 2 years/5M somewhere, Coples plays out his contract backing up Richardson and Wilkerson. We need a new option at end and Babin is better right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Sure, Coples is destined for a PRO BOWL year. Sure. You can mark me down for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 How can you answer this not knowing who the "new regime" consists of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Douzable probably gets like 2 years/5M somewhere, Coples plays out his contract backing up Richardson and Wilkerson. We need a new option at end and Babin is better right now. Coples is an enigma to me...I've seen enough to believe he should stay and I've seen enough to believe he can flourish. But I'm a jets fan so I've also seen enough to think he's gonna piss me off next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Douzable probably gets like 2 years/5M somewhere, Coples plays out his contract backing up Richardson and Wilkerson. We need a new option at end and Babin is better right now.I really like Douzable on our team. He's a depth player for us, but he could be a starter on a lot of teams, and he strikes me as an excellent candidate to follow Rex, which sucks. I like the idea of 4-3, with Coples at DE, Snacks and Richardson at DT/NT, (Barnes backing them up), and having Babin and IK split reps at the other DE spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 As much as I believe in coples, you guys are nuts thinking wed be doing the right thing by getting rid of Mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Coples is best as a 4-3 DT bringing pressure up the middle. Like he was used at UNC. Or a 3-4 DE like his rookie year before he was converted to OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I really like Douzable on our team. He's a depth player for us, but he could be a starter on a lot of teams, and he strikes me as an excellent candidate to follow Rex, which sucks. I like the idea of 4-3, with Coples at DE, Snacks and Richardson at DT/NT, (Barnes backing them up), and having Babin and IK split reps at the other DE spot. So what are you going to do with the other guy...what's his name...oh, right...Mo Wilkerson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Coples is best as a 4-3 DT bringing pressure up the middle. Like he was used at UNC. Or a 3-4 DE like his rookie year before he was converted to OLB. sshhhh. don't tell these guys that. they are convinced he is a 4-3 defensive end and want to switch the entire defensive scheme to place him there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 sshhhh. don't tell these guys that. they are convinced he is a 4-3 defensive end and want to switch the entire defensive scheme to place him there Haha yeah, that is always floated around but it isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Changing the D to suit Coples would be a major mistake. He is decent player that shows flashes. He also has a bit of dog in him. The way he has been used at OLB was basically an effort to keep the best players on the field because Richardson and Wilkerson were simply better playing down than Coples. Coples and Wilkerson are both signed for 2015 and FA in 2016. Which do you want back? This should not be a difficult question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I really like Douzable on our team. He's a depth player for us, but he could be a starter on a lot of teams, and he strikes me as an excellent candidate to follow Rex, which sucks. I like the idea of 4-3, with Coples at DE, Snacks and Richardson at DT/NT, (Barnes backing them up), and having Babin and IK split reps at the other DE spot. Mo isn't going to crack the line-up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Changing the D to suit Coples would be a major mistake. He is decent player that shows flashes. He also has a bit of dog in him. The way he has been used at OLB was basically an effort to keep the best players on the field because Richardson and Wilkerson were simply better playing down than Coples. Coples and Wilkerson are both signed for 2015 and FA in 2016. Which do you want back? This should be the one of the easiest questions you ever have to answer. I wouldn't change it for him but some of these guys are 4-3 guys and are likely to put a 4-3 in place. And at the end of the day it may be better suited to our personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 sshhhh. don't tell these guys that. they are convinced he is a 4-3 defensive end and want to switch the entire defensive scheme to place him there truth of the matter is that the entire defensive line are made up of defensive tackles wilks,Richardson,coples,snacks, and ellis are all best suited as defensive tackles. while I agee that 3 of them can play end in a 3-4, and do it well, they are still best suited as a tackle. they are all pocket pushing run stuffers. none are pass rushers I posted a thread in the off season about trading mo wilks and was thoroughly flamed for it. the reason behind it had nothing to do with money or not thinking he was a great player, but the simple fact that the jets have an abundance of defensive tackles, and he was the one with the most trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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