Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Mehta said on the radio that a GM laughed at the idea of MacCagnan being a GM. Then again, it's Manish Mehta who has no credibility whatsoever and whose paper has been blasted by national media and local media for their treatment of Doug Marrone Don't know MacCagnan from Adam but I laugh at Mehta being a beat writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Too bad Mehta wasn't a writer for that French magazine Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I have no clue about any of these guys... Neither does anyone else here. But you wouldn't guess it from some of the strong opinions voiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Here it comes @MMehtaNYDN: Although the football backgrounds are different, many people in NFL circles have compared Maccagnan's understated demeanor to... John Idzik What a sh*thead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I swear if I ever see Mehta or Cimini on the street I will smack the sh*t out of them Mehta is in a league all his own these days. Cimini is starting to look pretty good in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Mike Maccagnan GM Quinn HC That's what it's going to be, me thinks. I'm good with that, but think it's shaping up to be Marrone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Mehta is in a league all his own these days. Cimini is starting to look pretty good in comparison. Cimini has calmed down a bit. Think it's that he's away from the NYDN, and with ESPN. Trying to build a national image, and not look so much like an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I don't think any jet fans had a problem with idziks personality. If he picked the right guys there would have been no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Maccagnan GM Quinn HC Shannanhan the Younger O-Co Acceptable? Talent guy at GM. Defensive Coach (not a preference tbh). Decently up-and-coming QB-centric O-Co (and RGIII failure tbh as well). Meh, not horrible, but not great either. But I could live with it I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I don't think any jet fans had a problem with idziks personality. If he picked the right guys there would have been no issue. You can't have a problem with something he doesn't have.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 So let me get this straight, I'm supposed to believe that "agenda boy" is so locked into the NFL that he can offer a true evaluation of Maccagnan who NOBODY knew about until a week ago??? Really??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I wonder what new ground there is to explore in a second interview? If you spend 4-5 hrs going thru everything from organizational structure to X's and O's, what else do you need to ask him? The only thing I can think of is they interviewed Bowles/Reich after him and might want to ask about how he'd work with either of those guys vs. Marrone who they had already interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 But who would that be that could handle owners and GMs? Make Maccagnan a personnel director or scouting director if that's where he excels. I'd hate to stay put at #6 and suffer another year of Geno. Lovie wants Winston in TB. We still have a slim shot at the Duck. If he's not well-equipped to handle those duties himself, he can hire an assistant GM who possesses those qualities. Really, that's the kind of job John Idzik would do well if he was capable of closing a deal on the clock. I don't know if Maccagnan is the guy or not, but I want a top guy whose #1 qualification is identifying and evaluating talent. He can assign a value to a player in a trade up, and then have his underling negotiate the deal. There's nothing wrong with that. And if they're looking at him to pair him with Doug Marrone, you can have the head coach handle the bullying in negotiations. It's not a skill the top guy has to have. He just has to know what players he wants to get, and what they're worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Texans drafts picks haven't been that good Well supported statement there. My favorite part is when you had no idea what you were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I wonder what new ground there is to explore in a second interview? If you spend 4-5 hrs going thru everything from organizational structure to X's and O's, what else do you need to ask him? The only thing I can think of is they interviewed Bowles/Reich after him and might want to ask about how he'd work with either of those guys vs. Marrone who they had already interviewed. My guess is Casserly is coaching Maccagnan through the process and maybe another candidate interviewed better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You can't have a problem with something he doesn't have.. George Young didn't have much of a personality. Also does Ozzie Newsome light up the room? I agree with Slats. The guy could be a librarian for all I care as long as he can evaluate talent and assign a value to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 My guess is Casserly is coaching Maccagnan through the process and maybe another candidate interviewed better. Man I hope you're wrong. I'm still drinking the Kool-Aid that neither Casserly or Wolf would cook this process... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Man I hope you're wrong. I'm still drinking the Kool-Aid that neither Casserly or Wolf would cook this process... I would doubt they would do that. But inevitably they are going to favor the guys that they have the most confidence in based on their experience. In some ways, that is part of what they are being paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Don't know whether he's the right guy or not - the approach and thought process are dead on. We have been beyond horrible in evaluating talent for quite awhile. If the thought process is to let a talent evaluator have the reins and surround him with a good money man - I'm all for it. Bottom line is if you don't pick good talent to begin with - everything else ultimately slides into irrelevancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The process ongoing I have no problem with NFL veteran people consulting on who to bring in. Vetting candidates is the way to go. I do not need a coach and GM today . I need the right coach and GM selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well supported statement there. My favorite part is when you had no idea what you were talking about. Fill me in...talked to some Texans fans and they haven't said much about their draft since the guy got there in '11. Please, by all means, show me the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bman Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Can you guys please stop Quoting or posting what Manish Mehta says! My God. Who the hell cares! I stopped following him on Twitter years ago. Stop the Madness already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 My first question is, how the hell do you pronounce that dudes name, phoenetically please.... We fall in love with weird named GMs it seems. Traderbaum, Idziot, McCanine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Except the negative stuff is being debated Yeah, we are debating whether or not he quit on his teams and whether or not he got in to heated arguments with the GM. Where there is smoke, there better be a smoke detector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 You only hear from GMs twice a year anyway: after the draft, then after the season. Idzik say hi... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Fill me in...talked to some Texans fans and they haven't said much about their draft since the guy got there in '11. Please, by all means, show me the way. No, YOU show me the way pal. I know what I'm talking about, but i can't count the number of e-hacks that make statements like yours because they bought a keyboard. Texans drafted the best WR in 2013, the best Defensive player today in 2011, the same draft they took Jets fan favorite Reid. They consistently hit on mid round picks like brandon brooks who ranked in the top 5 guards this year again, and don't waste money on bust FA signings.... So ya, let's hear it. enlighten me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg3 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Where is the FIREMANISHMEHTA "movement"? We need billboards, towels, banners, airplanes, parades with torches, posting his home address, telephone number, SS#, bank card pincode on the internet!!! Get on with the "mission' already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well it's a good thing his demeanor isn't making the draft selections. I mean Christ, one cut his teeth as a scout and the other on the business side. The guy could be a raging Sean Avery type douchebag for all I care, so long as he is good at his job. So, no throwing darts and making selections? Dang, I guess no more drafting 15 probowlers from 12 picks then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 My first question is, how the hell do you pronounce that dudes name, phoenetically please.... lol Calling Warfish and the guys from the Whiskey Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I swear if I ever see Mehta or Cimini on the street I will smack the sh*t out of them Cimini has been taking shots at Mehta for the Marrone character assassination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 My first question is, how the hell do you pronounce that dudes name, phoenetically please.... Mac-cag-nan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Cimini has been taking shots at Mehta for the Marrone character assassination. He was bashing Maccagnan coming in for a second interview saying he has been in the league for 20 years and never has received a GM interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 He was bashing Maccagnan coming in for a sec interview saying he has been in the league for 20 years and never has received a GM interview. Yeah, but else was he supposed to say? Mac is great candidate and has an exceptional track record in the NFL? I don't mind getting the facts, although Cimini takes subtle shots at the Jets FO/CS all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 No, YOU show me the way pal. I know what I'm talking about, but i can't count the number of e-hacks that make statements like yours because they bought a keyboard. Texans drafted the best WR in 2013, the best Defensive player today in 2011, the same draft they took Jets fan favorite Reid. They consistently hit on mid round picks like brandon brooks who ranked in the top 5 guards this year again, and don't waste money on bust FA signings.... So ya, let's hear it. enlighten me. Funny, I hear the exact opposite from fans of the team. 1st round good 2-7 not much. I already said I know nothing about these guys. Never heard of him, but our drafting has been sh*t outside of 1-2 rounds. And even some of those rounds weren't even that good (Reed, Mercilus). This was the year we were supposed to have a badass draft annnnnd it's been the same. Don't know what he's done, but Won't miss the guy Eh, I don't know much about him, but the Texan's drafting in the last few years (If I remember correctly, he's been here since 11) hasn't been very good I have no idea who he is, but after our drafts I definitely want the Jets to hire him so we can get someone better. Your "e-hacks" line is funny though. I'll give you that, I chuckled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's time for the Do the Opposite of what Costanza would do approach. Jets tried all else, time to say 'This is what we want, then do opposite'. It worked for George,,for awhile.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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