patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The only ignorance I see is Pat fans blindly defending their piece of sh*t team. That has 4 Lombardi's. I guess you think the ideal gas laws are voodoo of some sort. Seriously however if the nfl suddenly decides that the balls need to be 12.5 to 13.5 during a game, one solution would be for the balls will be need to be prepared as follows 1. Balls are filled outside in the stadium 2 hours before game time to 13 PSI positive game time. (this will need to vary by location as the ambient air pressure in Denver is different than in NY, If you want the same resistnance to squeeze as a game played at sea level.) 2. 15 min prior to the start of the game the balls are filled/deflated to the teams qb specs of 12.5-13.5 on the field. 3. If during the first 1/2 the air temp drops more than 10 degrees or if it rains the balls will need to be re-inflated at 1/2 time. The balls inflated to 12.5 won't drop more than 3/4 of a lb even in a soaking storm. with a temp change of 10 degrees. The NFL has contacted Wilson regarding a change in the specified pressure already as +/- .5psi is much too tight to maintain on a game played outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The only ignorance I see is Pat fans blindly defending their piece of sh*t team. You've been duped by all the rumors. Mort and the rest have hooked and played you all like Mackerels. Nothing will happen to NE because they did nothing wrong. The only bad part of this is that some Jets will leave for a while and the rest of the NFL will miss their reactions on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You've been duped by all the rumors. Mort and the rest have hooked and played you all like Mackerels. Nothing will happen to NE because they did nothing wrong. The only bad part of this is that some Jets will leave for a while and the rest of the NFL will miss their reactions on draft day. No, we won't be treated to it this year, I think the draft is held in Chi-town this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Very hard to believe that Belidick had nothing to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I would be down for a new USFL, a chance to start fresh As long as there is a "Richmond Generals" Franchise for me to follow, +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 No, we won't be treated to it this year, I think the draft is held in Chi-town this year It is but Jets fans will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Very hard to believe that Belidick had nothing to do with it Now, I find it hard to believe that any nfl team was not aware of balls losing air pressure during a rain game in cold climates. At least 25% of the players have degrees and some coaches like BB are from distinguished schools. I think he knew that the balls that he told the refs to inflate to 12.5 would not be 12.5 by the end of the game. Matt Patrica is a aeronautical engineer for god's sake. When deflategate broke, the very next day they were discussions from around the country saying that it was atmospheric, But since they swept Ray Rice under the rug and it was the patriots after all the league had to go thru all these machinations to show due diligence. Even the name "deflategate" leads to a wrong assumption, the balls don't deflate, the PSI changes due to atmospheric conditions. Balls can not deflate by weather (under that meaning a loss of air,) but just a loss of air pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Very hard to believe that Belidick had nothing to do with it I doubt there is a single person on the planet who believes that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 It is but Jets fans will be there. Yeah, but it takes hundreds to truly make a spectacle worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 What rule? That each team supplied their own footballs? How does that change the ability of the pats to deflate the balls if they wanted to? If you thought they cheat, why did they not inflate the other teams balls to 14 lbs and make it easier for the opposition to fumble. Good Point I am guessing Pats cheated before 2007 at least for their homegames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Stop trolling and go out and dig yourself out of the snow. It's 70 degrees here. Tony the Wiz didn't get the memo about you being a bandwagon fan from the south. Squeal like a pig!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanInDenver Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Pats cheat and they get away with it because the commish lives in Kraft's a-hole. In any other sport or with any other commish the Pats would be banned from the sport for the amount of cheating that the Pats have done. Belichick would not even get to smell another football job. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Good Point I am guessing Pats cheated before 2007 at least for their homegames. I know you were selling us short! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Pats cheat and they get away with it because the commish lives in Kraft's a-hole. In any other sport or with any other commish the Pats would be banned from the sport for the amount of cheating that the Pats have done. Belichick would not even get to smell another football job. Period. Other than taping from the wrong designated area, what other "cheating" crimes have the Pats committed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Other than taping from the wrong designated area, what other "cheating" crimes have the Pats committed? Radio jamming signals, taping walkthru's....deflated footballs, paying Brady off the books, letting Jules play with concussions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Radio jamming signals, taping walkthru's....deflated footballs, paying Brady off the books, letting Jules play with concussions.... + having a gay QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Radio jamming signals, taping walkthru's....deflated footballs, paying Brady off the books, letting Jules play with concussions.... + having a gay QB + they take cheap shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Radio jamming signals, taping walkthru's....deflated footballs, paying Brady off the books, letting Jules play with concussions.... Too bad all that stuff never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 + they take cheap shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Too bad all that stuff never happened. Ooooooobviously yooooooouuuuu didn't go to laaaaaaawwwww skeeeeeeewwwwwwl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 You've been duped by all the rumors. Mort and the rest have hooked and played you all like Mackerels. Nothing will happen to NE because they did nothing wrong. The only bad part of this is that some Jets will leave for a while and the rest of the NFL will miss their reactions on draft day. Nothing will happen to NE , because they retain Roger Goodell on their payroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 All I'm seeing from Pats fans is that they cannot be objective at all. When I find out a player on a team I root for get busted with PEDs or whatever I think GOD DAMMIT!!! And I don't ever even entertain the excuses. Pats fans cannot do this apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 All I'm seeing from Pats fans is that they cannot be objective at all. When I find out a player on a team I root for get busted with PEDs or whatever I think GOD DAMMIT!!! And I don't ever even entertain the excuses. Pats fans cannot do this apparently. So what is your take on Woody Tampering with revis? or mangini admitting he taped games as a jet NFL rules state "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." They also say all video for coaching purposes must be shot from locations "enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead." The Admission "What we do every away game is tape our team from both end zones, whenever it's possible. We always ask for permission to do that. Usually it's granted, provided there is a physical space to do that, it's to get the same angle you get in practice. Anybody that asks us to do it, we extend the same courtesy. It's pretty common, one way or the other, depending on how teams like to like at their game tape. That's really what it was." -- Eric Mangini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Holy hell. We are still discussing this? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuidoYastrzemski Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Radio jamming signals, taping walkthru's....deflated footballs, paying Brady off the books, letting Jules play with concussions.... Boy, you really ARE a special kind of stupid aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 So what is your take on Woody Tampering with revis? or mangini admitting he taped games as a jet NFL rules state "no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game." They also say all video for coaching purposes must be shot from locations "enclosed on all sides with a roof overhead." The Admission "What we do every away game is tape our team from both end zones, whenever it's possible. We always ask for permission to do that. Usually it's granted, provided there is a physical space to do that, it's to get the same angle you get in practice. Anybody that asks us to do it, we extend the same courtesy. It's pretty common, one way or the other, depending on how teams like to like at their game tape. That's really what it was." -- Eric Mangini If it's against the rules it's against the rules and there should be repercussions. See, now you try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Radio jamming signals, taping walkthru's....deflated footballs, paying Brady off the books, letting Jules play with concussions.... Letting Jules play with concussions, is that like having the jet team doctor lead the effort against the players in thier suit against the NFL, you know the doctor that never even was legally allowed to practice in most of the stadiums that the jets played in due to his Latin American schooling and as such would need to hold a license in that state if he wished to practice medicine. A Doctor that specialized in arthritis who felt he was the guy to lead a neurological study. Paying Brady off the books, yeah ok, I am sure you have numerous examples of something that even questions that from any professional and not a forum poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Letting Jules play with concussions, is that like having the jet team doctor lead the effort against the players in thier suit against the NFL, you know the doctor that never even was legally allowed to practice in most of the stadiums that the jets played in due to his Latin American schooling and as such would need to hold a license in that state if he wished to practice medicine. A Doctor that specialized in arthritis who felt he was the guy to lead a neurological study. Paying Brady off the books, yeah ok, I am sure you have numerous examples of something that even questions that from any professional and not a forum poster. Jules played concussed all year, it got so bad they had to take him out for 2 games, and he got concussed again in SB Let his brain fry, he knew the risks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If it's against the rules it's against the rules and there should be repercussions. See, now you try it. If the pats are found guilty of deliberately letting air out of footballs or asking any employee or volunteer they should be punished. I don't think any patriot fan would have much of a n issue with it. Lets see what the lab at Columbia says occurs to footballs that suffer a 25 degree drop in temp and are wet for 90 min. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If the pats are found guilty of deliberately letting air out of footballs or asking any employee or volunteer they should be punished. I don't think any patriot fan would have much of a n issue with it. Lets see what the lab at Columbia says occurs to footballs that suffer a 25 degree drop in temp and are wet for 90 min. . man up and embrace the cheating the raiders flaunted it, they loved wearing the black hat, you have to respect that the past* try to have it both ways, they cheat, but they want to wear the white hat no respect for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 If the pats are found guilty of deliberately letting air out of footballs or asking any employee or volunteer they should be punished. I don't think any patriot fan would have much of a n issue with it. Lets see what the lab at Columbia says occurs to footballs that suffer a 25 degree drop in temp and are wet for 90 min. . This is what I'm talking about, you can't be objective. Anyone with some common sense knows that there was some purposefully shady sh*t going on. But you're tossing out Columbia lab reports or something. There is so much evidence. And sure, maybe some of it is anecdotal. But this isn't a court of law as much as Pats fans want it to be. The Colts balls were fine, BTW. Do you honestly not believe this was done on purpose? Consider it as Team A and Team B, not the Pats and Colts. Team A is guilty as sh*t, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 If it's against the rules it's against the rules and there should be repercussions. See, now you try it. Well how do you explain why the league went after the pats for taping after issuing the memo and not the jets if Godell is in krafts pocket? or this that espn said about the dolpins taping our signals Quick Hits Teams are always trying to steal signs and signals off other teams. That's just football. • For more of John Clayton's analysis, click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patman Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 man up and embrace the cheating the raiders flaunted it, they loved wearing the black hat, you have to respect that the past* try to have it both ways, they cheat, but they want to wear the white hat no respect for that No one is asking you to respect anything the patriots do or did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 No one is asking you to respect anything the patriots do or did. did you ever figure out the first cheating conviction the past* suffered ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Well how do you explain why the league went after the pats for taping after issuing the memo and not the jets if Godell is in krafts pocket? or this that espn said about the dolpins taping our signals Quick Hits Teams are always trying to steal signs and signals off other teams. That's just football. • For more of John Clayton's analysis, click here. You're all over the damn place. When did I say anything about Kraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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