Larz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 2008 Patriots forfeit first-round pick for Spygate scandal 1986 Patriots forfeit third-round pick for illegal use of injured reserve list ever hear of deflategate ? it was in the news 4 > 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 ever hear of deflategate ? it was in the news4 > 3 That's not the point. The point is many other teams have lost draft picks. And many more teams will lose them in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Easily the most insecure fan base in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 That's not the point. The point is many other teams have lost draft picks. And many more teams will lose them in the future. bingo !!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 That's not the point. The point is many other teams have lost draft picks. And many more teams will lose them in the future. Not for organization cheating, circumventing on field rules to gain an unfair playing advantage. You know, cheating Those violations are exclusive to only one organization in the history of the NFL. No matter how many violations by others you try to make into cheating violations, theyre not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 No matter how many violations by others you try to make into cheating violations, theyre not So when the Broncos intentionally circumvented the salary cap, allowing them to win 2 Super Bowl titles, that was not cheating? There is no way in hell the Broncos win 2 Super Bowls without John Elway and Terrell Davis. That was the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pat Yasinskas, ESPN Staff Writer Let’s turn to ESPN Stats & Information for a look at draft picks that have been forfeited for various reasons since 1980: 2011 Lions forfeit seventh-round pick for tampering with Chiefs players 2008 49ers forfeit fifth-round pick for tampering with Bears linebacker Lance Briggs 2008 Patriots forfeit first-round pick for Spygate scandal 2002-05 Broncos forfeit 2005 third-round pick, 2002 third-round pick for circumventing salary cap between 1996 and 1998 2001-02 49ers forfeit 2002 third-round pick, 2001 fifth-round pick for salary cap violations 2001 Steelers forfeit third-round pick for exceeding 1998 salary cap 1986 Patriots forfeit third-round pick for illegal use of injured reserve list 1981 Broncos forfeit third-round pick for contract violations involving Bill Thompson 1981 Raiders forfeit fifth-round pick for illegally sequestering two players in 1978 1980 Eagles forfeit third-round pick for holding illegal tryout 1980 Raiders forfeit fourth-round pick for evasion of player limit Hey Tx is the next highest cash fine amount before Spygate broke the record available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So when the Broncos intentionally circumvented the salary cap, allowing them to win 2 Super Bowl titles, that was not cheating? There is no way in hell the Broncos win 2 Super Bowls without John Elway and Terrell Davis. That was the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the NFL. Pats win regardless of who they plug in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So when the Broncos intentionally circumvented the salary cap, allowing them to win 2 Super Bowl titles, that was not cheating? There is no way in hell the Broncos win 2 Super Bowls without John Elway and Terrell Davis. That was the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 BAN these damn Patriots fans please once and for all. Why? Jets fans should have a thicker skin by now. Just laugh it off and it will deplete the oxygen trolls need to breathe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Hey Tx is the next highest cash fine amount before Spygate broke the record available? Pats are the 2nd most valuable team in the NFL. Getting fined a couple of million is the equivalent of you dropping $4.99 at the weekly buffet special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pats are the 2nd most valuable team in the NFL. Getting fined a couple of million is the equivalent of you dropping $4.99 at the weekly buffet special. spoken like a true fan with no moral code, just dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pats are the 2nd most valuable team in the NFL. Getting fined a couple of million is the equivalent of you dropping $4.99 at the weekly buffet special. Got to agree there it isn't a deterrent at all (obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So when the Broncos intentionally circumvented the salary cap, allowing them to win 2 Super Bowl titles, that was not cheating? There is no way in hell the Broncos win 2 Super Bowls without John Elway and Terrell Davis. That was the biggest cheating scandal in the history of the NFL. No the Broncos didn't win 2 SB because they circumvented the cap. No matter how many times you say it. There isnt a chance in hell the few dollars they went over the cap would have changed the lineup of Elway and Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCEastFan Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 DAVIS WAS REFERRING TO BRONCOS' CAP VIOLATIONS Posted by Mike Florio on October 1, 2008, 8:50 AM EST Several readers have asked us to explain the basis for the contention of Raiders owner Al Davis that Broncos coach Mike Shanahan should have asterisks next to the Super Bowl victories that capped the 1997 and 1998 seasons “because they were caught cheating.”Davis was talking about Denver’s proven salary cap violations. In December 2001, the league imposed an oddly-specific fine of $968,000 and stripped the Broncos of a third-round pick in the 2002 draft. The punishment arose from cap violations relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis. In September 2004, the NFL hit the Broncos again for $950,000 and a third-round pick in the 2005 draft. These sanctions related to cap violations occurring between 1996 and 1998. Wrote Mark Maske of the Washington Post at the time: “The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations. Davis has contended that the Broncos’ circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and ’98 seasons.” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2008/10/01/davis-was-referring-to-broncos-cap-violations/ Depending on whether you think the $968K and $950K relate to the same misconduct, the total fine against Denver for cheating the salary cap during their Super Bowl years was as high as $1,918,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Our local Pats fans are not mad, have never been mad, this is all funny to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Our local Pats fans are not mad, have never been mad, this is all funny to them Nice to see that there are still some smart Jets fans out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 So here is the deal and this will be my only comment on this guy. I didn't realize he was back and it looks like he has been banned for real this time. This guy came here and posted up a storm the day before the game last week. He made a comment saying that he was looking forward to being in the game thread (I forget the exact post). I told him the game thread is for Jets fans only and asked him to stay out. We don't need smack talk in the game thread. The day of the game he had several posts in the game thread. I restricted his posting access for 24 hours. We don't need garbage in the game thread. He sent me a snarky message calling me out. When in reality he had a 24 hour restriction for posting in the game thread only. But since his message to me indicated that he didn't care about this site at all and wouldn't bother posting here, we can just ban him. I mean he doesn't care about us. His 25 deleted posts in this thread clearly show he doesn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pats are the 2nd most valuable team in the NFL. Getting fined a couple of million is the equivalent of you dropping $4.99 at the weekly buffet special. I could eat a couple millions dollars worth of $4.99 buffets a week if I had nothing else to do. Already calculated in my retirement number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenPond Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Yea, after Pats fans die, they become Jets fans in their afterlife. Or they get forwarded 5 years, still be pats fans and live through 20 years of mediocrity leaving half the stadium empty every sunday. It's a shame brady got off the 4 game suspension it would have give you a sneak peak at the future. Pats would have gone to the playoffs anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furrybee Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 So here is the deal and this will be my only comment on this guy. I didn't realize he was back and it looks like he has been banned for real this time. This guy came here and posted up a storm the day before the game last week. He made a comment saying that he was looking forward to being in the game thread (I forget the exact post). I told him the game thread is for Jets fans only and asked him to stay out. We don't need smack talk in the game thread. The day of the game he had several posts in the game thread. I restricted his posting access for 24 hours. We don't need garbage in the game thread. He sent me a snarky message calling me out. When in reality he had a 24 hour restriction for posting in the game thread only. But since his message to me indicated that he didn't care about this site at all and wouldn't bother posting here, we can just ban him. I mean he doesn't care about us. His 25 deleted posts in this thread clearly show he doesn't care. I'm *really* not mad bro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm *really* not mad bro! I am glad to hear it. Thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 in all fairness, most of those threads were about the Pats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 they are lucky max is so cool, they would be IP perma banned by me Cool? That display yesterday changed the C to an F in my mind if the guy was not turfed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 What happened to this place last night? Between PatsFanTX and this other idiot trolling every single thread. Why are these trolls allowed to come and ruin the place, you couldn't even click on a link to read about the Jets without these clowns. in there acting like idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Can't resist.... http://www.patriots.com/news/2015/10/30/too-cute-kids-explain-why-its-awesome-be-pats-fan and yes, this is "trolling" I guess..,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Can't resist.... http://www.patriots.com/news/2015/10/30/too-cute-kids-explain-why-its-awesome-be-pats-fan and yes, this is "trolling" I guess..,. The youth of America learning that cheating pays, with not a single parent who can look them dead in the eye and tell them otherwise. After all, if their hero athletes can do it and get away with it, they can too. Sad, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Garb Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The youth of America learning that cheating pays, with not a single parent who can look them dead in the eye and tell them otherwise. After all, if their hero athletes can do it and get away with it, they can too. Sad, really. Know what else is sad? Not teaching kids responsibilities and letting them know that excuses are cool. However, if there is a lesson to be learned its this: Karma is alive and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Know what else is sad? Not teaching kids responsibilities and letting them know that excuses are cool. However, if there is a lesson to be learned its this: Karma is alive and well. We can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Know what else is sad? Not teaching kids responsibilities and letting them know that excuses are cool. However, if there is a lesson to be learned its this: Karma is alive and well. I'm not sure if you're arguing against me or for me on this one. I agree. Kids should be taught to be responsible and not make excuses. The Patriots offer zero help in this area. They take no responsibility for their behavior and provide nothing but excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 We can only hope. ask the Colts....:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 ask the Colts....:) ...and the Ravens.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'm not sure if you're arguing against me or for me on this one. I agree. Kids should be taught to be responsible and not make excuses. The Patriots offer zero help in this area. They take no responsibility for their behavior and provide nothing but excuses. LOL! It's never too late to open that mind of yours, you know. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 LOL! It's never too late to open that mind of yours, you know. Good luck. Unlike yours which refuses to believe Tom Brady is anything less than a god. Have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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